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Aliens vow to keep working
News and Observer ^ | October 28, 2003 | MICHAEL EASTERBROOK

Posted on 10/28/2003 8:01:38 PM PST by mykdsmom

The arrest of 250 illegal workers at Wal-Mart
worries them. But if deported, they say, they
will come back

Days after federal agents arrested more than 250 illegal workers at Wal-Mart stores across the country, Efrain Ramirez had a simple plan for avoiding capture.

If immigration agents show up at the intersection in Carrboro where he often waits for work as a day laborer, Ramirez said, he won't stick around.

"If they come, I'll run," Ramirez, 47, vowed Monday as he reclined in a lawn chair among a group of about 40 men waiting at the corner in hopes of finding work.

His mouth full of sunflower seeds and the brim of his hat pulled over his forehead, Ramirez said he has eked out an enjoyable life working illegally in the United States. The wages he earns in six or seven months here allow him to spend the rest of the year relaxing at his home on Mexico's Pacific Coast.

Nearly 200,000 illegal immigrants are believed to be residing in North Carolina, and news of the arrests on Thursday didn't take long to get around. In North Carolina, the sweep began at 5 a.m. when authorities burst into four Wal-Mart stores and arrested 14 men and one women who were working on cleaning crews.

Those detained included five people from Mexico, four from Russia, four from Mongolia, one from Slovakia and one from El Salvador. They ranged in age from 20 to 35. Agents released them later that day with a notice to appear in front of an immigration judge in Atlanta in April 2004.

Undocumented ILLEGAL workers interviewed Monday in Carrboro said the arrests made them more apprehensive than ever. But most said they were resolved to continue working -- even if it means being deported.

"It's sad to think that you can go through all this trouble to get here only to have something like this happen," said Freddy Isunza, 33, who traveled from his home in San Pedro, Honduras, about a year ago to look for work in North Carolina. "But what can you do? Nothing."

Armando Ortiz-Rocha, the Mexican consul in Raleigh, said undocumented immigrants learn to live with the risk of deportation. The money Mexican workers in the United States send back to their home country is one of Mexico's largest sources of income.

"They know the worry is part of the cost of coming here," Ortiz-Rocha said.

But most think that if they don't commit crimes and live a quiet life, the risks are minimal. "They also know that if they work hard and comply with the laws, it's very likely that they can stay here as long as they want," Ortiz-Rocha said.

The men who gather at the intersection in Carrboro typically find work mixing cement, laying bricks, cutting grass, trimming trees or painting houses. They are hired by contractors and sometimes residents who need help with yard work and other chores.

The jobs usually last a day to a week and pay $5 to $10 an hour. The wait for work can be long: By 10 a.m. Monday, four of the men had found jobs.

"It's like this every day," said Mauricio Hernandez, sipping coffee at a service station across the street from the group of men.

Hernandez, from Mexico City, said he used to wait for work at the intersection when he first came to the United States eight months ago. But now, he finds odd jobs through churches in the area that pay even better.

Federal officials caught Hernandez twice trying to enter the United States; he made it across the border earlier this year and said he would not be deterred by deportation.

"This kind of thing happens all the time," said Hernandez, 30. "They deport us, but we come back."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: illegalaliens; immigrantlist; northcarolina; oldnorthstate
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To: mykdsmom
The money Mexican workers in the United States send back to their home country is one of Mexico's largest sources of income.

This is the problem, right here. I keep saying that the only way the problem will be solved is to go after the employers. Make it painful enough and they'll stop hiring illegals.

21 posted on 10/28/2003 8:46:09 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Sabertooth
Keep sending back the envelopes for campaign money marked HEAVILY with 'NO MONEY UNTIL YOU STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND ENFORCE OUR LAWS'. That's what I do, and advise everyone else to do. Call and write constantly, too. Send Karl the poll numbers and related articles - don't give up! I'm running out of Sharpie pens.
22 posted on 10/28/2003 8:48:51 PM PST by ysoitanly
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To: Howlin
Well, Vicente Fox is going to be in the US next week; will be meeting with my Butch governor Tuesday, then will go to New Mexico, and will meet with the President later in the week to work out immigration issues.

He should work on making his country hospitable to his own people, instead of imploring us to conform to his wishes.

INFURIATING!!
23 posted on 10/28/2003 9:15:13 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert
I worked at the State Fair last week in the GOP booth and we literally could not keep Bush stickers; everybody wanted them.

A group of Mexicans came by and they all wanted Bush/Cheney stickers and kept saying "Viva Bush." So we said it back. Then they said "Viva Fox," and we said NOTHING.......LOL.
24 posted on 10/28/2003 9:17:28 PM PST by Howlin (A Democratic president is MUCH better than being a RINO!)
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To: Howlin
I've been active in my local Republican Outreach group; the thing is, I don't want to compromise our principles to pander to these people; I want them to join us BECAUSE of our principles.
25 posted on 10/28/2003 9:20:54 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: HiJinx
Efrain Ramirez had a simple plan for avoiding capture. If immigration agents show up at the intersection in Carrboro where he often waits for work as a day laborer, Ramirez said, he won't stick around. "If they come, I'll run," Ramirez, 47, vowed Monday as he reclined in a lawn chair among a group of about 40 men waiting at the corner in hopes of finding work.

I saw we fire them!

26 posted on 10/28/2003 10:06:42 PM PST by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; CheneyChick; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ...
ping
27 posted on 10/28/2003 10:07:33 PM PST by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: mykdsmom
The wages he earns in six or seven months here allow him to spend the rest of the year relaxing at his home on Mexico's Pacific Coast.

And Americans pay for his medical care while he's here, and he's probably working for cash and not paying taxes. Many Americans would like to be able to relax at the beach too, but we're too busy working to support this guy and his millions of buddies. Now I know why they call it the DREAM ACT. It's a NIGHTMARE for American taxpayers.

28 posted on 10/28/2003 11:22:16 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I prefer the term UNDEPORTED FELON.
29 posted on 10/29/2003 4:11:59 AM PST by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: ysoitanly
Keep sending back the envelopes for campaign money marked HEAVILY with 'NO MONEY UNTIL YOU STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND ENFORCE OUR LAWS'

This is a GREAT idea, I get a ton of mail from the GOP and various candidates begging for money. I usually just trash them, I'm going to start doing this.

MKM

30 posted on 10/29/2003 5:47:41 AM PST by mykdsmom ("You can't say civilization don't advance... in every war they kill you in a new way." - Will Rogers)
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To: mykdsmom
MKM,

Be sure they're marked "postage will be paid by the addressee".

I tear the contents of CC offers and the like to pieces, stuff the SAPP envelopes with the trash, and mail it back.

It keeps the "chain" going - don't you know?
31 posted on 10/29/2003 9:00:31 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: mykdsmom
Assuming that some candidate did run on a platform of taking control of our borders and claimed to be in possession of the cajones to do just that. In all probability, somewhere between the election and the swearing in ceremony, the electee will have misplaced those cajones.
32 posted on 10/29/2003 10:48:45 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Democrats don't mean centerist as in the center of the road,but as in center of donuts or washers.)
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To: mykdsmom
f immigration agents show up at the intersection in Carrboro where he often waits for work as a day laborer, Ramirez said, he won't stick around. "If they come, I'll run," Ramirez, 47, vowed Monday as he reclined in a lawn chair among a group of about 40 men waiting at the corner in hopes of finding work.

I called INS to report that there were 40 day laborers hanging out on this corner in Carrboro. They took the report but, I wonder if they will do anything about it...

I suggest everyone call INS and call the report in. I volunteer to drive by at least once a week and see if they are still there. Then we call INS again....lets take back our country

33 posted on 10/29/2003 4:41:00 PM PST by Legerdemain (The GodSquad, The worst of the Thought Police)
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To: JustPiper
Thanks for nothing President Bush.

...tick...tick...tick..

34 posted on 10/29/2003 4:52:48 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: mykdsmom
I don't understand it either since polling shows 70% of the public support closing our borders and attempting to stop the illegal invasion.

Seems to me if someone did run on this platform they'd be a shoe in.

Unfortunately, no politician has the cajones.

I'm not sure if they're all cowards or whether they're all being bought and paid for by corporations with a vested interest in cheap labor. Their's a lot of powerful interests with deep pockets that want to see the wage scale as low as possible and the country's future be damned.

35 posted on 10/31/2003 6:40:19 PM PST by YankeeReb
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