Fire Damage Grows, Could Be State's Worst Disaster (1500 homes destroyed/17 Deaths)

KNBC Chanel 4 Website ^ | 2:23 p.m. PST October 28, 2003 | NBC Channel 4, Los Angeles

[GOP_1900AD]

White male? Looks Filipino, Chinese or Native American to me.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The report concerning the grey van was interesting.

NBC showed the deserted grey van with the same elongated rear windows as in the earlier description. The van was found in the high desert along a dead end road. Although it had California license plates, the reporter who was speaking with the boy who found the van said that the plates did not match any car in California.

[cgk]

Is anyone else watching KABC channel 7 in L.A.?? WTF just happened to that old man at the gas pump with the reporter? He got shocked TWICE, once when he wasn't touching anything? It was scary to watch, how he grabbed his chest and jumped! They cut away to a different area...

[cgk]

Bump/ping to post #22.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Yes, his features look ethnic. Maybe light skinned Hispanic or mixed ethnicity?

[Syncro]

Definitly a mixture...and enough of the wrong ones to cause him to do these acts.

Not that that is the reason.

[cake_crumb]

This is looking SO not good. Prayers for reveryone.

Hubby (oldtimer Hotshot) is worried and hoping SoCal gets more than drizzle later this week, because the hotter fires will feed off the oxygen in the water.

[Bonaparte]

"Actually, Gov. Gray Davis is the worst disaster the state has ever faced."

LOL! Actually, I was going to say the 1906 SF earthquake/fire was the worst. But I like your answer better.

[Rockitz]

Is there a link for maps indicating burned areas?

[bart99]

Thanks for the compilation. We DO appriciate your efforts in keeping us informed.

[Procyon]

Why is it called the "Old" Fire, anyway?

Fires are named after the location of the incident when first opened. In this case it was a fire reported on Old Waterman Canyon Road.

[Chairman Fred]

Actually, local officials in SD county had made it known by noon Sunday that help was desperately needed - that's when Scripps Ranch was burning down. The Gray Man sat on the request for 24 hours, and we didn't hear anything about it until his shameless grandstanding press conference yesterday afternoon.

Gray Davis is a greater disaster than anyone knows.

[pawdoggie]

White male? Looks Filipino, Chinese or Native American to me.

What difference does the race of these creeps make. From the description "white...long hair" my bet would be on enviro-terrorists. Ted Kaczinski wannabes. Long past time to take those creeps (and their World Wildlife Fund, Sierra Club fellow travellers) down. Even if this fire wasn't their doing (and it's got their M.O.: burn the urban development that threatens the environment; "we must burn the forest in order to save it").

[harbingr]

Link to 100+ incredible fire pictures from Scripps Ranch Civic Assoc...

www.scrippsranch.org/special/fire_gallery.asp

[snopercod]

California's worst disaster? What about the San Francisco earthquake?

[Grampa Dave]

[illumini]

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[illumini]

http://www.lgiinc.us and http://www.beta-air.com or http://www.beriev.com

[RayChuang88]

Actually, there's a ever BETTER solution: drop bombs filled with liquid nitrogen on the fires. Between the sudden extreme drop in temperatures from the liquid nitrogen and the rapidly expanding nitrogen gas quickly depriving the fire of oxygen, that could stop a major fire very quickly indeed.

Imagine dropping on the fire a BLU-82 Daisy Cutter bomb filled not with regular explosives but a Dewar flask (essentially an oversized Thermos bottle) full of liquid nitrogen. A sudden release of that much liquid nitrogen will probably snuff out the fire for over 200 feet radius from the point of impact.

[X-FID]

Imagine dropping on the fire a BLU-82 Daisy Cutter bomb filled not with regular explosives but a Dewar flask (essentially an oversized Thermos bottle) full of liquid nitrogen. A sudden release of that much liquid nitrogen will probably snuff out the fire for over 200 feet radius from the point of impact.

Uh, come on man, this conflag has ten mile wide and deep fires going on, you ain't going to put it out period from the air or ground with any amount of anything known to man. The FF's can only try to control it and deflect it from certain areas and wait for the right conditions for it to go out on it's own.