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In life-and-death matters, traction on slippery slope
IndyStar ^ | October 28, 2003 | Jane Lichtenberg

Posted on 10/28/2003 11:39:10 AM PST by NYer

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:26:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Two stories in the news this month that deal with life-and-death matters offer signs we might be gaining some traction on that slippery slope we've been warned about.

First, after eight years, a partial-birth abortion bill is headed to a president eager to sign it.


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TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: abortion; euthanasia; larrykinglive; partialbirth; prolife; righttolife; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; tslist

White Trash

So I'm watching Larry King's interview with Mr. Banality of Evil himself and towards the end it's getting to be a little too much even for Lefty Larry to take. Finally, Larry King asks Schiavo, "So what is the Shindlers' motivation in all this? In keeping their daughter alive."

Remember, the Schindlers have all but bankrupted themselves, been put through a dozen years of mental anguish as their daughter lies in a bed without rehab, therapy, or having her teeth brushed. What possible "motivation" could they have?

Schiavo's reply (verbatim): "I dunno. Just to make my life Hell, I guess."

(And yes, if his attorney, George Felos, who was present -- mostly to just hold up letters and intone "this one says vegetable, this one says vegetable, this one says vegetable: die, die, die" -- had been drinking water at that moment, he would've done a spit-take and spewed it all over the studio).

Now, I spent five years in Hicksville, Michigan. I've lived in duplexes, quadplexes, and so on. Aside from the cheap rent (about $250 month for a four-room apartment, utilities included), this experience provided me with a very clear window into the world of White Trash, USA (you know, the world where you are awakened at five AM because the woman downstairs is screaming and throwing all of her boyfriend's clothes out onto the front lawn... again). Michael Schiavo epitomizes White Trash. From his slicked-back hair to his unbuttoned shirt to his gold chains... white trash all of it. One might go so far as to say, considering some of the things I've read lately (checking the odometer when his wife came home from work, etc.) that he epitomizes abusive white trash. And -- unhappily for him -- abusive white trash is one of the remaining few ethnic groups we're allowed to hate in America. I think his appearance on Larry King did him a disservice. Instead of seeing a loving, sensitive, new-age husband who only wants What's Best for his wife (and of course What's Best in this case regrettably means death -- as it usually always does to such folk), the liberal illuminati saw a petty, abusive hick. With an unbuttoned collar and gold chains: What possible reason could my wife's parents have for wanting to keep her alive and her teeth brushed? To make my life Hell. To see that I don't get my new truck. And my new wife.

Before I thought he was evil. Now I see that he's just evil and small. This is why I'm not worried: the one thing you can count on with white trash, is that, unlike rich-people justice, white trash justice is absolute and inescapable. Whether it's winding up in an apartment with a stack of porno tapes and no electricity, dying alone of lung cancer at age 48, or accidentally blowing their hand off with a shotgun, white trash always get exactly what they deserve in the end.

UPDATE: There's no transcript yet, but here's a story with a picture so you can see what I mean. Oddly enough the "my in-laws want to make my life hell by saving their daughter" quote is not one of the soundbites included in this article: only the "loving husband" quotes, and none of the "abusive creep" quotes, made it into the story. We'll see if the transcript has also been sanitized in a day or two.

Commentary by:Victor Lams

1 posted on 10/28/2003 11:39:11 AM PST by NYer
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Man "finds" Wife unconscious.

Man keeps Wife unconscious.

Man gets malpractice money for Wife.

Man wants Wife's money.

Man wants Wife dead so Man can have money.

Man gets Lawyer.

Lawyer is/was Hospice Board Member.

Lawyer promises Man that Wife will die at the Hospice...

2 posted on 10/28/2003 11:41:50 AM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list
3 posted on 10/28/2003 11:47:25 AM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: NYer
BUMP
4 posted on 10/28/2003 11:49:45 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: NYer
Have another. Man pulled plug on both parents. It would be very interesting to see what he inherited! Snuffing people who mention you in their will might easily get to be a habit.
5 posted on 10/28/2003 11:59:31 AM PST by T'wit
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To: NYer
The caption under the photo you linked to quotes MS as saying Terri has not spoken a word since 1990. Now, perhaps she hasn't spoken a word to her abusive husband (scared to within an inch of her life, no doubt!), but there are sworn affidavits that asseert she has spoken to caregivers ... and we have the unambiguous fact that her bone scan done 53 weeks after her collapse was ordered because she was expressing to her therapistsher intense pain at the therapy she was then receiving and the scan proved it was due to the broken bones she'd suffered. Waht terror she must have had to live with all these years, to have her abusive husband in complete control of her world, often alone with her! It would almost be merciful if she wasn't cosncious of her environment, but we have the testimony of her therapists and caregivers that she has been aware!
6 posted on 10/28/2003 12:00:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: NYer
Great comment! Well, just a tad ad hominem, but some people deserve it. And sooooo true.

Are you Victor Lams? I googled that name and ended up on a website that refers to St. Blog, something I saw mentioned on some threads here. This is all new to me -- please fill us in about who this is.

7 posted on 10/28/2003 12:20:04 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: MHGinTN
*It would almost be merciful if she wasn't cosncious of her environment, but we have the testimony of her therapists and caregivers that she has been aware!*

Glad you didn't "buy" into that brain scan photo Felos was waving in Larry King's face last night, trying to prove that her cerebellum was filled with fluid.

I'm not certain but I believe that the doctor's who cared for Karen Anne Quinlan made similar statements. After her death an autopsy was performed. Lo and behold, the cerebellum was intact - no fluid! In the case of Terri Schiavo, there would be no way to prove Felos's assertions one way or the other as Michael Schiavo has made arrangements for Terri's body to be cremated immediately upon death - no autopsy. What's he hiding??

8 posted on 10/28/2003 12:26:23 PM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: T'wit
*Snuffing people who mention you in their will might easily get to be a habit.*

Oh Jodie ... hint, hint!

How about his comment last night that the girlfiend, a/k/a the fiancee, has done more for Terri than her own mother. He even said it with a straight face.

The most damning statement he made, however, came when Larry King asked if CNN could send cameras over to the hospice to videotape Terri. Michael and Felos both blanched, exchanged looks and said NO!

9 posted on 10/28/2003 12:29:55 PM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: NYer
I think I was most appalled by his expression when he was discussion her gynocologically and "smell", etc. He almost had a half sneer/smile during that segment. He really is a despicable little pig. Then he tells Larry he won't let CNN video her to protect her privacy after discussing her body in such a disrespectful way.
10 posted on 10/28/2003 12:38:55 PM PST by PeyersPatches
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To: NYer
>> How about his comment last night

I did not see the interview (and for that matter, refuse even to subscribe to cable). Glad for your report on these delicious moments. I suggested to Jodi earlier that she should sleep with her back to the wall. (These people could learn valuable things if they read Free Republic :-) )

While I am at, let me toss out once more that Terri's estate might be worth many millions, with all the book and movie rights and stuff. But only if he succeeds in killing her off. He'll never, never, never divorce her. So we have to keep asking him why not?

11 posted on 10/28/2003 1:00:35 PM PST by T'wit
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To: T'wit
Terri's estate might be worth many millions

Try this one on for size ...

BOOK DEAL & MOVIE RIGHTS

Felos has already said that he plans to write a book on this. I'm guessing the Schindlers get NADA.

12 posted on 10/28/2003 4:12:26 PM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: NYer
If Schiavo were in a coma, then the issue would be easier to resolve. But there are too many questions about the husband's motives in hastening her death.

WTG Jane Litcheberg!

13 posted on 10/28/2003 5:04:52 PM PST by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: NYer
>> Felos has already said that he plans to write a book on this

Only when he has finished murdering her. Er, excuse me, "letting her complete her death experience." (Remember that? When he'd gotten the plug pulled, he practically jumped up and down expressing outrage at Jeb Bush for interrupting Terri's "death experience." He loves death. He loves giving people death experiences. He'd put death experiences in little children's Christmas stockings.

The Schindlers won't want a dime of the blood money the creep gets paid for his book.

14 posted on 10/28/2003 5:15:19 PM PST by T'wit
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To: NYer
"white trash justice is absolute and inescapable"

Oh man, you're good. Great commentary piece! I sure hope you're right, he is one detestable creature.
15 posted on 10/28/2003 6:44:55 PM PST by BizzeeMom ("We cannot do great things. We can only do small things with great love" Bl. Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: NYer
Thanks for the heads up!
16 posted on 10/28/2003 7:17:22 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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