Husband (Michael Schiavo) in Right-To-Die Case Rips Parents

Yahoo! News ^ | October 27, 2003 | VICKIE CHACHERE

[RLK]

He also conceded that he had ordered that Terri's urinary tract infection not be treated, likewise to snuf--, er, honor Terri's wish. We could consider it pro bono, though he did pocket a few bucks by not having to pay for the medicine. -----------------------------

This stuff adds up into a view of the man and his purposes that is highly psychopathic and aggressively lethal as he can make it.

[T'wit]

Based on the few medical documents we have been able to see; examining doctors' statements; nurses' sworn testimony; testimony of a girl friend of Terri; court records; and a few other good sources, all of this solid documentary findings, we might find Michael Schiavo a suspect in at least nine attempts on his wife's life: by beating (before the brain injury); by strangulation that fateful night; by twice withholding her medicine when she was infected; by at least three attempts to remove her feeding tube, two of which succeeded temporarily; by injecting her with insulin; and by chilling her room (presumably in an attempt to induce pneumonia); the attending nurses reported the last two incidents.

For all this, neither he nor the possible attempted murder of Terri has ever been investigated.

[RLK]

You are correct. It's a mirical she has survived the repeated abuse. She's in bad hands. If it continues she won't survive much longer and last minute half-measures won't save her.

[RLK]

The other thing to realize is that if this woman has been at all conscious of what's going on around her and what's been done to her, she must have been driven nearly insane by now.

[T'wit]

Terri's lawyer, Pat Anderson, related some of this in an interview of the weekend. At one point she said, Terri must have great Guardian Angel on one of her shoulders, to keep her alive through all of this. I'd like to think our little prayers help with that.

I hope there's a whole flight of Guardian Angels to protect Terri through whatever ordeals lie ahead. And if that is not to be, she will go to a place where she will be made whole and know the joy that was stolen from her.

[T'wit]

I can't guess how much she understands. She knows enough to be scared. The nurses reported that Michael used to go into her room and close the door. When he left, they'd find Terri extremely agitated and frightened, and she would not respond to care for long periods. (The nurses found unexplained insulin bottles or ampules after one of those visits, maybe more than once, I don't know.) Nowadays Terri gets sullen and withdrawn for hours when Michael's around.

[T'wit]

>> What's the story here?

In case you're still looking for an answer, the short version is that she did not have a heart attack, so the alleged potassium imbalance was never an issue. Where that yarn came from is unknown -- probably Michael. What did happen is not certain, but from marks on her neck, appears to have been attempted strangulation. There is also evidence from a bone scan that Terri had been badly beaten.

[stands2reason]

Okay. She's in a living hell being trapped in that body, and she's completely brain dead and feels nothing especially being starved to death?

And we're the ones who argue from emotions and don't consider facts. Ri-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-ight......

[FITZ]

That's Michael's argument ---- if he's right she feels nothing ---- but the family believes something else, they believe she has awareness and responds to them. If Michael was right --- he shouldn't be afraid to release the medical records to the family --- he should want to so that he could prove his case. He shouldn't be afraid to let the family choose doctors themselves to review her case. Either way ---if Michael is right, she feels no pain for being kept alive --- it makes no difference if her body is on a cot or in a casket, but if the family is right, it would be a terrible terrible thing to do to a helpless woman.

[FITZ]

And the side of death is the emotional one here ---- because they argue on one hand she's already dead, her soul left her body but then they claim she feels trapped in that body, that she's wishing she could die instead. They believe she's dead but that she still has wishes. It makes no sense at all. The family's view is the more sensible one because they believe she still is alive and still feels.

[PeyersPatches]

She did this to herself via bulimia
(blame the victim)
The parents are hurting themselves
(blame the victim)
The parents are just doing this to make MY life hell
(sees himself as the victim)

Michael Schiavo is a classic abuser. After those bone scans....I have NO doubt that Michael Schiavo had something to do with the condition Terri is in today. That narcissistic pile of dog squeeze needs to be held accountable and pulled away from that poor woman NOW.

[workerbee]

why do you find that strange?

I find it unlikely that anyone, espeically at so young an age, so specifically would say "don't feed me, let me starve to death", let's put it that way. Ventilators or some other bonafide extraordinary means is one thing, water and nutrition is another matter. Just because someone may see something in passing on television and say "oh, not for me" (which is how Michael Schiavo describes the "proof" of his wife's wishes) is not sufficient grounds for the state to allow a person starved to death.

are you not married?

Yes, I'm married.

[stands2reason]

I've had "the talk" with my husband---he know I don't want "herioc" measures if I can't recover, but after Terri, I thought I'd clarify me intentions. I told him, "Please don't dehydrate/starve me to death."

He said,"Do you actually think I'd consider doing something so cruel?"

"Not really, but the doctors'll try to push you into it, saying it's painless..."

"Do you think I'm stupid? I can't believe you'd think I might do something like that."

He was completely insulted. I had to apologize.

[incindiary]

And the side of death is the emotional one here ---- because they argue on one hand she's already dead, her soul left her body but then they claim she feels trapped in that body, that she's wishing she could die instead. They believe she's dead but that she still has wishes. It makes no sense at all. The family's view is the more sensible one because they believe she still is alive and still feels.

Yeah, I've noticed their contradictions too. For example - "She needs to be put out of her misery because she is suffering. It is cruel to keep her alive like that." -- and then on the other hand they say, "She has no brain, starving her would be painless." blahblahblah. So which is it?

It looks to me like any suffering she is going through is thanks to her HINO who is keeping her cooped up in a little room with no rehab or stimulation whatsoever, keeping her loved ones from visiting her unless HE says it's ok, and who has starved her to death, and wants to starve her to death again.

[pickyourpoison]

I'm wondering if she remembers something.If she gets rehab and communicates it MS could be in big trouble. Even if she doesn't remember the night this happened, she must remember how he's treated her in this hospice or she would'nt get upset when he enters the room.

[Krodg]

I find it unlikely that anyone, espeically at so young an age, so specifically would say "don't feed me, let me starve to death", let's put it that way. Ventilators or some other bonafide extraordinary means is one thing, water and nutrition is another matter.

That's true for my family. I have two married daughters that don't have written directives...yet. Last week when we were all together as a family we discussed Terri's plight and not one person agreed to be starved to death. I now know their wishes and for that I am grateful (still need some paper work though).

Many people say they wouldn't want to live like Terri but they overlook the fact that she has had all therapy and stimulation removed for years. I'm not sure if she ever would have improved but she never was given that chance. If Michael had done anything positive for Terri after he got the money, people might view him in a different light.

[T'wit]

I doubt that she could remember, and I think that is probably all for the best. If only Michael would forget the murder and let Terri's parents care for her.

The trolls dare scold us to "let her go." They should be talking to her HINO husband.