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SoCal Fire News Live Thread 10/27 - News updates/pics only!
My personal list of news and info on the California firestorms | 10/27/2003 | ladypixel

Posted on 10/27/2003 6:23:56 PM PST by Ladypixel

Current Fires Active list for California, 6:19pm 10/27/03

(Updates welcome. Freepmail me or post 'em. I need all the help maintaining this list that I can get! Please, let's not discuss theories of how the fires started, or political debates of who should or should not be there... let's keep this thread as a fire-news only thread. Thank you!)

Most recent total update: 1,100 homes lost in the southland. 325,000 acres burned. 30,000 homes still threatened by the fire.

The list:

Hemet fire, Riverside county. As of last heard report, 6500 acres burned. May have joined with the Mountain fire (see below).

Simi Valley fire, Ventura county/northern Los Angeles county - Combined with original Val Verde/Santa Clarita fire. 120,000 acres. Six homes destroyed, eight damaged. Containment: 0 percent. Start: Oct. 25. Firefighters trying to save Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. Voluntary evacuations for Moorpark. Personnel: 599 firefighters. Cause: Arson. People in Box Canyon, Woolsey Canyon, Twin Lakes, Iverson Ranch, and other nearby regions have been evacuated. Evacuated region is north of Santa Suzanna Pass. Fire currently closest to Indian Oaks mobile home park.

Piru fire, Ventura county - 5,500 acres. Containment: 85 percent. Start: Oct. 23, west of Lake Piru in Ventura County. The fire in Los Padres National Forest is threatening the Sespe Wilderness and Sespe Condor sanctuary. There are no condors currently in the refuge. Voluntary evacuations in Piru and parts of Fillmore. Personnel: 780 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Grand Prix fire, San Bernardino & Los Angeles counties - 40 mile fireline from LA to San Bernardino county (includes Old Waterman fire and Crestline fire) - Fire line is 40 miles long including the Old Waterman fire. 35,000 acres. 62 homes destroyed. Containment: 23 percent. Mandantory evacuations in Lytle Creek, Mt. Baldy, Rialto, and parts of Claremont, Upland, and other foothill communities of the San Gabriel Mtns. Personnel: 2,427 firefighters. Fire started on Foxborough Drive in the city of Fontana. Cause: Arson. Fire considered 100 percent contained in western region reaching from La Verne, CA to Rancho Cucamonga, CA. (Yay!)

Old Waterman fire, San Bernardino county - Size: 15,000 acres. 300 homes and ten commercial buildings destroyed. Deaths: 2. Containment: 5 percent. Start: Oct. 25 near San Bernardino National Forest. Evacuations in foothill areas of San Bernardino and mountain communities, including Crestline and Lake Arrowhead. Personnel: 917 firefighters. Cause: Arson.

Crestline fire, San Bernardino county - Burning next to Crestline and Lake Arrowhead currently, with evacuations in Big Bear, Running Springs, Blue Jay, and other close areas. Acreage unknown. Grand Prix fire is burning up the mountain to join with it, slowly but surely. Approx. 30 structures in Crestline burned. Mandantory evacuations in Lake Arrowhead, Rim Forest, Sky Forest, Running Springs, Arrowbear, Blue Jay, Crestline, Green Valley Springs, and Big Bear. Hospital in Lake Arrowhead has been evacuated as per NBC4 broadcast; patients have been taken to hospitals in Hesperia and other high-desert cities.

Valley Center fire, San Diego county - See Paradise Fire

San Clemente/Camp Pendleton fire, San Diego county - Freeper reports that it was just south of San Onofre power plant, a couple miles inland from the 5 freeway. Size: 4,800 acres. Containment: 75 percent. No structures burned, although the fire threatened homes in nearby De Luz. Started Oct. 21st on the base north of San Diego. Key facts: Authorities are downplaying early reports that fire was ignited by live ammo exercises on the base. Personnel: 1,000 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Mountain fire, Riverside county - Now combo fire, including Rancho California fire: 6,000 acres. Six structures destroyed. Containment: 60 percent. Some burn injuries reported. Evacuations ordered for homes near Lake Skinner. Two civillian injuries. Personnel: 250 firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Riverside fire, Riverside county - Fire was located at last report (2:42pm) at Limonite Av/northbound I-15. Brush fire, no visibility on freeway at report time.

Malibu fire, Los Angeles/Ventura county region - FIRE OUT as of 10/26/03! Hooray!

Otay Lakes fire, San Diego county. Still active. Last update as of 3:56pm; location of fire was Otay Lakes Rd. at Wueste Rd. Closure on Otay Lakes Rd. at the 94. Fire jumped to northbound side of Procter Vally at Otay Lakes Rd. No other info available.

Cedar fire, San Diego county. Structures burned: 100 homes in Ramona, 150 in Scripps Ranch, 10 in Tierrasanta, 8 in Santee, 50-100 structures in Crest (east of El Cajon), many other structures. Deaths: 9. Injured: 2 firefighters, several civilians. Started Oct. 25 in eastern San Diego County, between Julian and Ramona. 200,000 acres burned. Personnel: More than 800 firefighters. Containment: 0 percent. Extends to Scripps Ranch, Poway, Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, portions of Santee, Lakeside, Ramona, El Cajon, San Carlos, Alpine, and Blossom Valley. Air traffic nationwide was disrupted when this fire forced the evacuation of a FAA control center at Miramar. Cause: Authorities believe a hunter set a signal fire when he got lost.

Dulzura fire, San Diego county - Also known as the Mine fire. 15,000 acres. Containment: 0 percent. Personnel: 300 firefighters. Started Oct. 26 in southern San Diego county. Fire crossed the border into Mexico, but no structures were threatened in Tijuana. Cause: Under investigation.

Paradise fire, San Diego county. Also known as Escondido fire. 15,000 acres. 57 homes and 103 outbuildings burned (no homes in Escondido area were lost), two deaths. Containment: 0 percent. Started Oct. 26 in Valley Center area near Interstate 15. Valley View Casino evacuated. Personnel: More than 500+ firefighters. Cause: Under investigation.

Poway fire: See Cedar fire.

Ramona fire: See Cedar fire.

DePortola (Temecula) fire, Riverside county (may be San Diego county?) - Started 2:16pm 10/27/03 near the I-15 & Hwy 76. Small brush fire. May be out.

Norco? fire, Los Angeles county - Started approx 2:58 pm, fire beneath the 71 freeway, 2 suspects with a red cass can seen running towards the local humane society. No additional details since 3:12pm. Fire estimated to be at SR71 just north of Mission Blvd. (May have to go personally check this one out.)

San Luis Obispo fire, county unknown - Reported at 9:03am. As of report at 1:03pm, fire was burning towards Resevoir Canyon in a SE direction. Fire near the 101 freeway; as per 3:04pm report, traffic delays up to 45 minutes due to fire.

Yucaipa fire, Riverside/San Bernardino county - Reported to be near state route 38 and Bryant. No other info available.

Antelope Valley fire, county unknown - Not much info on this fire, except a location (as of 3:46pm) of Avenue J at 90th St. East.

Long Beach fire, Los Angeles county - Not much info on this fire except location of 5602 N. Long Beach Blvd; may be a building fire in-city and not a wildfire.

Convoy fire, San Diego county - Reported start at 3:29pm, location westbound 52 at Convoy. Small brush fire. No other info available.

Redding fire, San Bernardino county - Reported as of 5:52pm, location Dersch Rd. at Parkville Rd in Redding. No additional info available.

Point Reyes fire (Northern California) - Reported as of 3:46pm. A ditch was on fire along Petaluma Rd. at Nicasio Valley Rd. 1 lane of traffic shut down. No further information available.

OTHER: Reports of a P2V Firefighting plane, crashed 7.4 miles SSW of Big Bear Dam. Supposedly ignited a fire, no survivors expected. Crash was described as in "pieces".

JUST IN: Report of a transformer fire in San Bernardino, location Alto Dr. at Mesa Ct. No further info avail.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
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KFI reporting 3 homes saved in Chatsworth. Fire now visible from Valencia, which means it's making its way down another route.

Palmer Canyon (in Rancho Cucamonga - Grand Prix fire site) lost almost every home, KFI reports. Teams are on-site right now watching for hotspots.
61 posted on 10/27/2003 8:34:53 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel

62 posted on 10/27/2003 8:38:05 PM PST by John Jorsett
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From abc7.com:
Fire Related Flight Cancellations & Delays
LOS ANGELES — With more help in the tower Monday, controllers at Los Angeles International Airport were able 
to send out 60 planes an hour, twice as many as the day before and just under the usual 70, an official said. 

The problem occurred yesterday when air traffic controllers at a Federal Aviation Administration facility in 
northern San Diego County had to evacuate due to a nearby wildfire. Many of them were sent north to the LAX tower. 

That cut the rate of departures at LAX to 30 an hour, less than half the usual output, and also resulted in 
some delays and cancellations at Lindbergh Field in San Diego. 

It also backed up the inter-linked U.S. system and resulted in dozens of flight cancellations into LAX, Burbank, 
John Wayne and Ontario. 

But as of 2 p.m. today, according to Los Angeles World Airports, the airlines were projecting that 220 
inbound or outbound flights would be canceled for the entire day, roughly 13 percent of the usual 1,700 a day. 

And no flight cancellations were anticipated by the roughly 40 foreign air carriers at the Tom Bradley 
International Terminal. 

Delays yesterday were averaging hours. Today the delays were ranging from zero to 90 minutes, according to LAWA. 

63 posted on 10/27/2003 8:38:57 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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SAN DIEGO PRESS CONFERENCE


Mayor Murphy:

Bad news is that there is much more damage than originally thought.
Good news is that the weather is changing for the better, winds have died down and the fire is moving east and is being driven by vegetation as opposed to structures.

President Bush has declared San Diego city and county a disaster area clearing the way for victims to apply for federal financial aid.

Governor Davis, in today's visit, pledged additional resources.

Most school districts, UCSD and SDSU will again be closed on Tuesday.

Fire Chief Bowman:

The fire has become a "stable situation."

In a 75 percent completed walk through of the affected areas, the following damage was noted and was found to be much higher that first estimated:

In Scripps Ranch area:
over 300 homes destroyed
six homes damaged
More information at www.scrippsranch.org

In Tierra Santa:
Eleven homes destroyed
33 homes significantly damaged

Five firefighters have lost their homes in the San Diego County fires.

Police Chief Lansdowne:

Twelve members of the SDPD (sworn and civilian) have lost their homes.

Most city facilities (except for essential services such as police, fire, water and sewer) will be closed again on Tuesday.

Next briefing will be at 11 AM Tuesday, unless the situation changes.
64 posted on 10/27/2003 8:48:52 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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As posted by Freeper wildbirdhunter:

"I’m in El Cajon just off the 67 just heard sirens run by on the 67 heading north up to the fire in Lakeside/Poway area. Otay 17% contained just on KUSI ch9 San Diego was showing pick off CFD setting back fires. Fresh flare up a T.T. by Otay."
65 posted on 10/27/2003 8:49:58 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Update on new Granada Hills fire:

Near Zelzah Ave & Sesnon. Fire units enroute.
66 posted on 10/27/2003 8:51:02 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Scanner reports from other thread (courtesy of spectr17, thank you for listening to the scanners!!):

City Creek bridge cleared of down power lines

downed tree still blocking hwy 18, Caltrans, SB Co.. roads being called

FF calling for strike team to protect Happy Jack complex. Not sure where that is.

Stuck FF finally dug out and heading down hill.

Strike teams being staged at Glen Helen, some heading to Lytle creek if OPs approves
67 posted on 10/27/2003 8:51:52 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: sf4dubya
what is the latest on "subjects threw lit fuse out of vehicle"?
68 posted on 10/27/2003 8:53:02 PM PST by lainie
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School closures (as posted on KCBS website - http://www.cbs2.com )

Alta Loma:
All schools closed today; will reopen Tuesday. Information: (909) 484-5151 or www.alsd.k12.ca.us

Colton Joint Unified:
No classes. Staff is asked to report.

Chaffey Joint Union High:
Alta Loma, Los Osos, Etiwanda, Rancho Cucamonga and Chaffey high schools closed today. Information: (909) 988-8511.

Etiwanda:
All schools closed today. Information: (909) 899-2451 or www.etiwanda.k12.ca.us

Fontana Unified:
All schools closed today; teachers and staff should report to work. Information: (909) 357-5000, ext. 7020

Rialto Unified:
All schools closed today; teachers and staff should report to work. Information: (909) 820-7700

Rim of the World:
All schools closed today. Information: (909) 336-2031.

San Bernardino City Unified:
All schools closed today; will reopen Tuesday and crisis counseling will be available. Information: (909) 388-6130.

Cal State San Bernardino:
Classes and events canceled today and Tuesday; will resume Wednesday. Information: (909) 880-5000 or www.csusb.edu

Chaffey Community College:
Classes canceled today; will resume Tuesday. Information: (909) 987-1737.

San Bernardino Valley College:
Classes canceled today. Information: (909) 888-6511.

Redlands Unified:
All schools are open. Information: (909) 307-5300.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION:

Bear Valley: (909) 886-4631
Central: (909) 989-8541
Cucamonga: (909) 987-8942
Mount Baldy: (909) 985-0991
Upland: (909) 985-1864
Yucaipa-Calimesa: (909) 797-0174

OTHER INFO:

Sierra Canyon School (private k-8) in Chatsworth will be closed on Monday per Howard Wang (founding director), 818-429-9591.

The Claremont School District will be OPEN on Monday for school. They are *not closing* due to the fires.

Los Angeles County Probation Officer announced evacuation of all staff and minors at Camps Clinton B. Afflerbaugh and Joseph Paige due to Grand Prix Fire near La Verne. Evacuated to Central Juvenile Hall near downtown L.A. and Barry J. Nidorf Juvenile Hall in Sylmar. No injuries.

Moorpark College will be closed Monday, Oct. 27 due to Simi Valley/Moorpark brush fire.

Western Christian School in Claremont will be closed Monday, Oct. 27.
69 posted on 10/27/2003 8:54:31 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel
Welcome to California. Happy Ramadan.


70 posted on 10/27/2003 8:55:26 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Ladypixel; Travis McGee
KFI reporting that Porter Ranch residents are now under evacuation conditions due to the Simi Valley fire.

I'd reckon. That's Simi Valley in the pic in my #70.

72 posted on 10/27/2003 8:57:17 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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Brush Patrol 74 just put out the fire in Granada Hills.
73 posted on 10/27/2003 8:58:53 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Another update from Freeper wildbirdhunter:

"Look like 530 plus homes lost in SD County with more then 206,664 burned in SD
Just in back fires being started in Lakeside that most have been the sirens from about 10 min ago
Some bad new is at leased 5 fire fighter hero have lost homes in SD and may be more."
74 posted on 10/27/2003 8:59:30 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: Ladypixel
Highlands added to recent evacuations (Arrowhead fire area)
75 posted on 10/27/2003 9:03:12 PM PST by lainie
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Simi Valley Fire - Indian Oaks mobile home park - firefighters put up a major defense, were able to save a number of homes. Fire swept through the back of that community then into Browns Canyon, which heads towards Porter Ranch. Fire is coming east towards Porter Ranch homes; mandantory evacuation order for northern homes in Porter Ranch issued.
76 posted on 10/27/2003 9:06:41 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Lake Arrowhead, Rim Forest, Sky Forest, Crestline, Crest Forest, Arrowbear, Big Bear, other communities still on mandantory evacuation. Highland now added to mandantory evacuations. Main evacuation center for the Highland fire is San Bernardino Airport, Terminal 1 (Norton terminal).
77 posted on 10/27/2003 9:07:07 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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Santa Paula and Condor Sanctuary threatened by the Piru fire. Piru fire has burned almost 30,000 acres, 10 percent contained. No homes threatened.
78 posted on 10/27/2003 9:07:43 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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437 homes confirmed lost in San Diego county. Fires have burned 250,000 acres to date.
79 posted on 10/27/2003 9:08:38 PM PST by Ladypixel (Ashes keep fallin' on my head...)
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To: archy
That's an amazing picture. It looks like another planet.
80 posted on 10/27/2003 9:22:38 PM PST by MattAMiller
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