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Firestorm Kills 12, Destroys Hundreds Of Homes (Closure Announcements also given.)
NBC San Diego ^

Posted on 10/27/2003 2:05:57 AM PST by Happy2BMe

Firestorm Kills 12, Destroys Hundreds Of Homes

Fires Threatens Much Of County

POSTED: 7:12 a.m. PST October 26, 2003

RAMONA, Calif. -- The worst firestorm to hit San Diego County in living memory has killed at least 12 people, destroyed hundreds of homes and devastated more than 128,000 acres, fire officials reported Sunday evening.


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In addition to the 12 confirmed deaths, there are unconfirmed reports of more fatalities, Sheriff Bill Kohlender said. Some of those killed were found in their cars and others had died in their homes, said the sheriff. The county medical examiner was investigating all of the deaths, he added.

"Winds are heavy," Kohlender said at a news conference. "This fire is a danger to the entire community."


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Communities under siege from the flames included Ramona, Eucalyptus, Woodlake, Murphy Canyon, Tierrasanta, San Carlos, Alpine, Kearny Mesa, Scripps Ranch, Chula Vista, Rancho Bernardo, Alpine and Fairbanks Ranch.

Officials said at least three fires were currently burning in the north, central and southern parts of the county. The largest blaze, dubbed the Cedar Fire, had raged through 120,000 acres, and high winds continued to spread it on multiple fronts, according to the California Department of Forestry. Officials estimated that about 100 homes had been destroyed in Ramona, 150 in Scripps Ranch and 50 in Valley Center. Many other homes had burned in other areas, including Tierrasanta and Flynn Springs, NBC 7/39 reported.

Late Sunday afternoon, San Diego Mayor Dick Murphy asked all employers in the city of San Diego to give employees Monday off because of the fire. In addition, most school districts in the affected areas will be closed, including San Diego City Schools, Grossmont Union, Cajon Valley schools. Check our closure announcements for a complete list.

The Paradise Fire was burning in the Valley Center area. It had blackened about 8,000 acres and destroyed at least 160 buildings, including 52 homes, according to NBC 7/39. Authorities said that the Paradise Fire was now moving toward Escondido and Deer Springs.

A third fire, this one called the Mine Fire, was burning near state Route 94 in the Dulzara area close to the U.S.-Mexico border. More than 15,000 acres had reportedly been burned by that fire, NBC 7/39 reported. Fire officials reported around 4 p.m. that Mine Fire had crossed the border into Mexico, but that they expected to contain the fire by Thursday. It was also burning on the shores of Otay Lakes, due east of several new developments in Chula Vista.

Skies throughout most of the region have been darkened by the huge clouds of smoke and ash from the fires. Embers could be seen falling from all directions as residents made their way to safety. Ash from the fires was seen drifting to the ground as far away as downtown San Diego.

Residents are being advised to stay indoors to avoid the smoky air. Motorists are driving with their headlights on due to the thick black clouds of smoke darkening the area.

"There was a fire all over the hillside by our house about 1:10 this morning," said evacuated resident Jeffrey Shults. "They knocked on the door and told us to evacuate immediately and not to grab anything, just family. Period."

San Diego Gas & Electric has shut off power to the areas associated with the wildfires. SDG&E officials also said they had lost a major transmission line because of the fire and that power demands upon the system were reaching critical levels and they were urging area residents to conserve power.

Officials told people to call 911 only if their problem was an emergency. People with non-emergency fire-related questions should call (619) 570-1070. County residents were being urged to stay inside and off the roads, and to limit water usage as much as possible as well. Windows and chimney flues should be closed to prevent embers from entering the home.

Thousands of people were being evacuated to shelters in Ramona, Qualcomm Stadium, Chula Vista, Mira Mesa and Valley Center.

The Cedar Fire started Saturday east of Ramona. Kohlender said officials had received unconfirmed reports that the fire may have been started in the Pines area near Julian when a lost hunter set a signal fire.

The fire spread westward through Barona and Moreno Valley, jumping Highway 67 at Johnson Lake Road. A mandatory evacuation was ordered at about midnight for the San Diego Country Estates community in Ramona. Sunday morning, the fire was raging around Eucalyptus Hills -- a heavily populated area -- and was making its way toward Lakeside.

A branch of the Cedar Fire was burning in Santee Lakes near the Bonita Parkway. Another finger had worked its way south to the Blossom Valley and Flynn Springs area near Interstate 8. Thousands of other homes and structures were threatened by the fire's multiple fronts.

The Cedar fire took less than an hour to burn from Highway 67 west to Interstate 15, quickly leaping that highway and igniting portions of Marine Corps Air Station Miramar. The fire burned along the runways of Miramar and then leapt over state Route 52, moving toward Tierrasanta. The fire also burned into Mission Trails Regional Park in the Mission Gorge area, prompting evacuations in the San Carlos neighborhood along Mission Gorge Road from Princess View to Golfcrest.

Around 4:30 p.m., officials reported that the fire had jumped Interstate 8 back near where the fire began and that portions of the the Harbison Canyon area were on fire. Officials said that some homes in Alpine were also involved in the blaze.

Fire officials were urging people in the path of the fire to evacuate one of the following centers:

Flights in and out of Lindbergh Field were canceled Sunday afternoon because of the massive amounts of smoke in the air.

Officials said the Paradise Fire began near Valley Center in the Boucher Heights area of the Rincon Reservation. A fire chief on the scene told NBC7/39 that he personally had seen at least three people who had been killed by the fire.

The Red Cross has an evacuation center at St. Peters Catholic Church, 540 South Stagecoach Lane, Fallbrook. Large animals can be evacuated to Aerie Park at Aerie Road and Betsworth.

The San Diego County Sheriff's Department said that its communications center is operating in emergency mode and will only be answering emergency calls only for during the crisis.

Toward the north, the fire burning at Camp Pendleton had reportedly burned nearly 5,000 acres and was 75 percent contained, reported fire officials. Six injuries were reportedly caused by the blaze.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: californiafirestorm; catastrophe; deaths; disaster; fire; forest; forestfire; sandiego; wildfire
Pray for the people of Southern California through this very difficult time.
1 posted on 10/27/2003 2:05:57 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
Southern California evacuation centers and closure announcements updated HERE.
2 posted on 10/27/2003 2:07:47 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Nurture terrorism in a neighborhood near you - donate to your local community mosque.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1008554/posts
Satellite video of fires in CA

3 posted on 10/27/2003 2:10:37 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Sunset...)
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To: Happy2BMe
The fire regions are as far north as San Bernadino county and north of Los Angeles.

At last report: 277,000 acres and 850 homes have burned. At least 13 people reported dead. More than a dozen schools will be closed beginning Monday. Some of the fire regions are expected to be under control by Wednesday. Governor Davis has declared a state of emergency and will seek federal emergency funds.

Maybe some of the tree-sitters who are holding up housing developers will have to be rescued.

4 posted on 10/27/2003 2:18:45 AM PST by Susannah (AMERICA is the best! - Could hundreds of millions of immigrants be wrong?)
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To: Susannah
I was in San Diego and Victorville last week.

The sagebrush there in So. Cal. is just like a can of gasoline.

Very, very, serious!

5 posted on 10/27/2003 2:23:50 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Nurture terrorism in a neighborhood near you - donate to your local community mosque.)
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To: Happy2BMe
I'm smack dab in the middle of San Diego, near the Presdio which overlooks Old Town and this is the first time since the fires hit the County that I'm able to clearly discern the buildings on the other side of Mission Valley.

Have the fires subsided? One can only hope. And pray.
6 posted on 10/27/2003 2:34:52 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx
We left San Diego Saturday afternoon after staying all week at the Holiday Inn on Harbor.

Lindberg Field closed Sunday due to the fires.

Guess it reopened.

Incredible!

7 posted on 10/27/2003 2:42:04 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Nurture terrorism in a neighborhood near you - donate to your local community mosque.)
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To: Happy2BMe
You managed to get outta here in the nick of time.

Lindberg has re-opened? News to me, albeit, GOOd news.

All the schools are closed tomorrow, including a certain nursey/pre-school of personal importance to me --- I look forward to and count on 3 'toddler-free' days at home each week!
8 posted on 10/27/2003 3:06:09 AM PST by onyx
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To: Happy2BMe
I noticed that the word "forest" was avoided as much as possible in the description of this fire. Sounds like a forest fire to me. But that would prove GW's point about the need to thin forests.
9 posted on 10/27/2003 3:09:32 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Most conservatives study the opposition. Most liberals try to shout it down.)
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I heard an interview with a member of a community police commission. The man said he plotted the origins of the various fires on a map. All but one of the fires started near freeways I believe he said.

He did not offer and ideas of who, just where.

I continue to believe that radical Islam would NOT attack in a region so heavily populated by citizens of Mexico. The radical Muslims are working to ally with the corrupt government of Mexico, Mexican drug traffickers, and Mexican radicals here in the U.S.

Given the Richard Jewell experience I for one will be very suspicious of the authorities who grab someone off the street almost immediately. There's going to be a lot of pressure to get the guy. Let's make sure he's guilty before he's burned alive on pay TV.

OTH, if our crack, PC government says tree limbs brushed against power lines simultaneously in various locations then we know radcial Muslims did it.

10 posted on 10/27/2003 4:51:51 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I noticed that the word "forest" was avoided as much as possible in the description of this fire. Sounds like a forest fire to me. But that would prove GW's point about the need to thin forests.

Other reports have said that there were some forest areas involved, but I don't recall the name of the forest.

11 posted on 10/27/2003 5:26:37 AM PST by randita
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To: Happy2BMe
I live in Fallbrook, close to the Camp Pendelton fire. Does anyone know if that fire was started on their firing range? If so are they liable for any property damage? There has been talk that this is the origin of this fire. The base was conducting lots of artillery activities before the fire and since then no firing. Who in their infinite wisdom would fire rounds into heavy brush during the height of the fire season?
12 posted on 10/27/2003 8:16:46 AM PST by doc
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To: doc
" Does anyone know if that fire was started on their firing range?"

Yep - during live fire excercises and early last week (Tuesday, I think).

But that particular fire was contained within Pendleton and didn't spread beyond there.

So. Cal has had ZERO RAIN now for SIX MONTHS!

13 posted on 10/27/2003 9:19:26 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Nurture terrorism in a neighborhood near you - donate to your local community mosque.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
"I continue to believe that radical Islam would NOT attack in a region so heavily populated by citizens of Mexico. The radical Muslims are working to ally with the corrupt government of Mexico, Mexican drug traffickers, and Mexican radicals here in the U.S."

I don't think the Mexicans want to destroy California - it is one of the major migration destinations for millions of Mexicans.

14 posted on 10/27/2003 9:22:29 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Nurture terrorism in a neighborhood near you - donate to your local community mosque.)
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To: Happy2BMe
I did not mean to suggest that anyone especially Mexico's corrupt government wanted to destroy California. I attempted to state that IMO radical Muslims would not attack any area so thick with Mexican citizens.

The radical Muslims do not want to alienate Mexico's corrupt government. Mexico's corrupt government appears to me to be more or less neutral perhaps even happy for Washington's distraction with the war to protect America from radical Muslims.

The corrupt government of Mexico's aim is exactly as you stated, to continue to use California and all western states to migrate millions of more Mexicans. It is the corrupt government of Mexico's policy of Mexican diaspora, or "a nation without borders."

15 posted on 10/27/2003 5:13:52 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: randita
It is a great wildfire. Some areas are brush. Some are forest. I think I heard the word, "chapparel" [sic]. Obviously, there should have been fire breaks. Hannity is making the case regarding forest thinning when he talks about this, too. And the department of forestry was mentioned in this article. One thing's for certain, the libs are blowing a lot of smoke up peoples' rumps on this one.
16 posted on 10/28/2003 2:29:02 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Most conservatives study the opposition. Most liberals try to shout it down.)
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"So. Cal has had ZERO RAIN now for SIX MONTHS!"

Dry spells happen all the time in California. One needs to prevent fires by anticipating inevitable problems, realising that fires will always be started one way or another. Fire breaks are a no-brainer.
17 posted on 10/28/2003 2:31:56 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Most conservatives study the opposition. Most liberals try to shout it down.)
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