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Syria says cannot stop militants entering Iraq - "If America cannot stop Mexicans..."
msnbc ^ | 10/26/03 | reuters

Posted on 10/26/2003 9:35:59 PM PST by Mark Felton

LONDON, Oct. 25 — Syria cannot stop militants entering Iraq to attack U.S. forces, Syrian Foreign Minister Farouq al-Shara said in an interview with a British Sunday newspaper.

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''They are very determined and many of them dream of seeing an American tank,'' Shara said of militants who cross the border into Iraq.

''We are doing everything we can,'' he told the Sunday Telegraph. ''We have tightened our checkpoints and are turning people back. But the border is long and we cannot cover it all.

''If America, a rich superpower cannot stop Mexicans crossing into the United States, then how can we, a poor country, be expected to stop Palestinians getting into Iraq.''

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: immigrantlist; immigration; insurgents; iraq; syria
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To: Bobsat
Accusing Hennepin of being a "DU infiltrator" is a needless joke. Hennepin is right. NEITHER party is taking a stand on illegal aliens. My Republican congressman on Capitol Hill says he can't get anything done about illegal immigration MAINLY due to lack of support from fellow Republicans AND the Bush Administration.

Tom Tancredo is bucking the odds and I admire his integrity because he has the courage to speak out and take a leadership role, whereas the vast majority of politicians in both parties just duck and run for cover on this issue.
141 posted on 10/27/2003 9:24:51 PM PST by MissouriForBush
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To: HennepinPrisoner
It's when the Republicans (like Bush) do it that angers me.

Not all Republicans have backed Bush's deals with his Mexican business partners.


142 posted on 10/27/2003 9:33:12 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Bobsat
George Bush, in case you didn’t know, is 100% FOR Illegal Immigration

Nonsense.

Not precisely. He intends to make it legal, is all.

Meanwhile the fires will continue burning, while he plays his fiddle for Vincente Fox.

-archy-/-

143 posted on 10/27/2003 9:35:35 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: HennepinPrisoner
but he [Bush] cares too much about those big campaign donations he'll lose from businesses that employ illegals.

Yep......and he also cares about the new voters he naively believes will become GOPers after he grants them amnesty. ......And he cares about the political backlash of taking the extraordinarily politically incorrect and so-called "racist" step of securing the borders against ALL illegals (not just Mexicans).

144 posted on 10/27/2003 9:49:33 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Stu Cohen
My assumption is that you have not been to Los Angeles lately?

These naive posters haven't been to northern CA, either. The Modesto Bee has been following a Mexican street gang that has been invading homes, raping the women and terrorizing the community.

They are part of a gang called the Nortenos.

Plus, 25% of our convicts in CA prisons are illegal immigrants, not to mention the cons that are here "legally."

145 posted on 10/28/2003 12:10:55 AM PST by wheelgunguru
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To: af_vet_1981
Okay, you are now publicly allied with the Syrian PR campaign in their war against Americans. And we wondered why Jane Fonda went to Hanoi ...

ROFLMAO!!

Sure, if you want to read it that way, go ahead.

By your logic if Syria said that grass was green, I would have to declare grass purple in order not to be allied with them in their war against America. If I agreed that grass was green, I would be a traitor.

If that is your official position on the matter, then I suppose I won't be invited to your holiday party this year. (shrug)

146 posted on 10/28/2003 6:46:15 AM PST by Stu Cohen
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To: af_vet_1981
"I am making the assumption that the Syrian borders are a greater threat to our troops than the Mexican borders and I am not giving an ounce of aid and comfort to our enemies. "

Yes you are, if you do not support closing our borders and tightening immigration law now. We are at war now because of what happened September 11,2001. That attack occurred because our immigration system is broken. Those terrorists came to this country after minimal/no background checks due to our defective immigration system. Many of them illegally overstayed their visas. Many of them also took advantage of the state of Virginia's then lax driver license policies, which allowed illegals to receive licenses with no real proof of who they were.

Right now in this country we have states like Massachusetts and California that either allow or are working to allow illegal immigrants to receive licenses with less documentation than that required by an American citizen.

We have cities throughout the country recognizing the suspect matricula consular. Cities allowing illegals with no background checks to have licenses and government services with laughable proof of identity such as a power bill with a name and address and an TIN number.

We have hundreds of thousands of people illegally pouring across our borders every year. None of them have had background checks. Are you really going to say they are all honest work seekers? Some are. Others are drug smugglers armed and dangerous, importing their poisons to wreak havoc in our cities. Others are criminals murderers,rapists, robbers, fleeing their home country to avoid being arrested and prosecuted.

And others are from the middle east. Personal journals have been found on our border written in arabic. These journals have been turned over to the FBI. Are they the journals of arabs seeking freedom? Or of madmen plotting to destroy one of our cities?

The fbi isn't saying. Are you in a position to assure that all these people are just coming for jobs?

Our troops are fighting this war to protect America. Yet here at home, our pandering politicians at all levels of government are not only not doing anything to close the loopholes, in many states they are encouraging illegal immigration by providing services to people who should not be here with minimal proof of identity and no background checks.

147 posted on 10/28/2003 7:27:46 AM PST by Klickitat
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To: Stu Cohen
By your logic if Syria said that grass was green,

I would know they were lying.
It's what they do.
They will not stop unless we make them stop.

148 posted on 10/28/2003 7:32:01 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Jorge
Administration's "response."? Unfortunately I wouldn't hold my breath... NOT speaking up is the problem IMHO.
149 posted on 10/28/2003 8:07:38 AM PST by Libertina
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To: af_vet_1981
By your logic if Syria said that grass was green

I would know they were lying.

Even if you looked down and saw that the grass was indeed, green? Or would your mind not allow you to accept that fact, and translate it into another color?

It's what they do.

Liars can sometimes tell the truth. As a matter of fact, smattering of propoaganda with bits of truth if a cery time tested techinique.

Like I said, the message is not invalid because the messenger is despicable.

They will not stop unless we make them stop.

Mexicans crossing the U.S. border, or Pali's crossing the Syrian border?

150 posted on 10/28/2003 8:10:41 AM PST by Stu Cohen
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To: Mark Felton
Syria says cannot stop militants entering Iraq - "If America cannot stop Mexicans..."

America says: Cannot stop US military bombing of Damascus into stoneage- "If Damascus cannot stop terrorist bombing of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Baghdad....."

151 posted on 10/28/2003 8:17:12 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: Stu Cohen
I can translate hudra to green but it does not change the fact they are lying to us in propaganda. I will not give aid and comfort to the enemy (Syria not Mexico). If you want to extend the War on Terror and the Axis of Evil to Mexico state your position clearly. I think it is madness.
152 posted on 10/28/2003 8:37:45 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: WRhine
Bush said this in a context that left little question that he thought there is nothing wrong with Mexicans (others) entering America Illegally.

The fact that the majority of America disagrees with him on this issue apparently means nothing to him. He has cured me of being a Republican.

153 posted on 10/28/2003 9:16:31 AM PST by janetgreen (TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: af_vet_1981
I can translate hudra to green but it does not change the fact they are lying to us in propaganda.

No, in this case they are not lying to us. Our border is nearly as porous as theirs. It sucks that they are right, but they are.

I will not give aid and comfort to the enemy (Syria not Mexico).

How does admitting a valid point give aid and comfort to the enemy? You really think the U.S. just going to back off of Syria because they made a valid point? You are more credible when you don't deny that which is true. The U.S. should concede the point as valid, and move on with our agenda.

Defending the indefensible makes us no better. We don't need to lie to be right. I really don't want a Baghdad Bob running our foreign policy. "Mexicans, what Mexicans????".

If you want to extend the War on Terror and the Axis of Evil to Mexico state your position clearly.

I want to extend the war against terrorism to secure both the northern and southern borders of the United States. That is my clear position, and I have stated it.

I think it is madness.

Opinion duly noted. I disagree.

154 posted on 10/28/2003 9:47:21 AM PST by Stu Cohen
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To: truthkeeper
They got us on that one.
155 posted on 10/28/2003 9:49:46 AM PST by novacation
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To: El Conservador
but your posts reek of racism, and that's equally inadmisible

The Mexicans that come here are some of the most racist people I have ever encountered.

156 posted on 10/28/2003 10:01:00 AM PST by riri
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To: Stu Cohen
No, in this case they are not lying to us.

Yes, they are lying to us. They are killing Americans in Iraq through their proxy terrorists and saying they can't stop them from going to see the American tanks they yearn for because the United States can't stop migrant workers from illegally crossing our border with Mexico.

The truth is they want to kill Americans and to defeat America so that it crawls back across the sea with its tail between its leg and converts to Islam.

I want to extend the war against terrorism to secure both the northern and southern borders of the United States. That is my clear position, and I have stated it.

Wars are fought against people not landmarks (fences, mountains, rivers, walls, or deserts). The War on terror is waged against terrorists and the regimes that support them. I guess your clear position is to extend the war to the governments of Mexico and Canada. That would be madness.

157 posted on 10/28/2003 10:05:11 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
Yes, they are lying to us.

I don't think so.

They are killing Americans in Iraq through their proxy terrorists and saying they can't stop them from going to see the American tanks they yearn for because the United States can't stop migrant workers from illegally crossing our border with Mexico.

Makes perfect sense.

The truth is they want to kill Americans and to defeat America so that it crawls back across the sea with its tail between its leg and converts to Islam.

That has nothing to do with the ability or disability to control a long, desert border.

Wars are fought against people not landmarks (fences, mountains, rivers, walls, or deserts). The War on terror is waged against terrorists and the regimes that support them. I guess your clear position is to extend the war to the governments of Mexico and Canada. That would be madness.

Nope. Madness is fighting a war on terror while leaving your borders wide open to anyone who may want to come in.

Nobody said anything about waging war against the government of Canada or Mexico. You're getting silly. It is OUR responsibility to protect OUR side of the borders. That's not war, that is, well, controlling entry by foreign nationals into your country.

Can you really not tell the diffence? If the French demand to see you passport when you cross the French border, and turn you away if you don't have one ... is that an act of war? Is that an indictment of the U.S. government?

Of course it isn't. And I think (or at least hope) that you know it.

158 posted on 10/28/2003 10:29:16 AM PST by Stu Cohen
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To: novacation
They ask the $64,000 question, IMHO.
159 posted on 10/28/2003 12:04:51 PM PST by truthkeeper
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To: Mark Felton
how can we, a poor country, be expected to stop Palestinians getting into Iraq."

Since when is Syria a "poor" country?

160 posted on 10/28/2003 12:07:18 PM PST by Steve0113
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