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Viewpoint Journal ^ | October 26, 2003 | David Flanagan

Posted on 10/26/2003 3:16:21 PM PST by dpflanagan

I think every so-called "Islamic Scholar" and fundamentalist opposed to the overthrow of Saddam and the establishment of Democratic government in Iraq should be asked this one question:

Which version of Iraq do you fear more; one which, under Saddam Hussein, Islam, as well as every other religion, was actively oppressed OR one in which there is free Democratic government and freedom of religion, including Christianity?

My guess is that most of these folks would decline to answer the question, but the answer would be obvious I think to anyone who heard the question... Islamic fundamentalists are deathly afraid of the concept of freedom of religion. To them, the very idea is anathema; that someone would be allowed to worship as they see fit, whenever they saw fit, or not at all!

To a fundamentalist of the Islamic faith, worship of Allah is mandatory, and the goal of their faith is to establish the "proper" worship of Allah in every nation on Earth, even if it must be done at rifle-point. Ironically, in some Middle East nations today, worship does take place under the careful watch of armed soldiers. Failure to worship Allah will earn you a nice long visit to your local prison, and a confession of faith to a religion other than Islam, especially the Christianity, will earn you a bullet to the head.

The fact is, radical muslims prefer to treat christians as a doctor might cancer; cut it out, poison it out, or burn it out, but never, ever tolerate it or allow it to spread. Christianity tends to be a dangerously prolfic religion and has served as a persistant roadblock to the spread of more radical forms of Islam for about a thousand years now. Not that people of the Islamic faith have been prevented from moving out into the western world, its just that, when those members of the faith do go and live amongst free peoples, they or their children tend to take on one very bad habit... tolerance!

Once muslims move into the larger world and become more socialized to western culture, they learn that freedom of worship is not such a bad thing as they first thought. First of all, there are no soldiers with guns to enforce worship, which is kind of nice. Secondly, members of their faith are free to participate in government, or not, and to express their opinion, even if it does differ from what anyone else thinks.

Thus, Islamic scholars may come to the US and denounce government intervention in Iraq or Afghanistan as "colonialism," or "imperialism," and nothing happens; except that some will listen and even perhaps agree. However, if a Christian scholar were to travel to, say, Syria, to speak to members of a university about the wonders of Democracy and religious freedom, well, its probably accurate to say that they would likely spend some time in prison, at the very least.

So, here is my suggestion; if you have the chance to attend a talk or debate regarding US actions in Afhganistan or Iraq with Islamic scholars insisting that the US is an imperialist nation that is intent on "recolonizing" the Middle East, please go. When you get the chance, get up and ask the question posed above and see what answer you get.

No matter what the answer is, please forward it to me at my email address, david@viewpointjournal.com, and let me know what they said. Inquiring minds want to know!

David Flanagan
Viewpointjournal.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianity; civilization; faith; islam; prison; religion; scholar; tolerance; western
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To: EternalVigilance
Maybe so, but they have to realize that, in some areas of the world, the response can range from a prison cell to a painful death.

I know you do not hold the "laws of man" in as high esteem as you do those of God, but violating those laws, especially in a barbaric society, WILL bring consequences, and those so doing should be cognizant of these, and prepared.

21 posted on 10/27/2003 6:06:11 AM PST by Long Cut (Whiskey...oil for life's frictions)
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To: antiRepublicrat
It's 'illegal' to beam radio and television signals into Cuba. Should we stop? Maybe you'll say no because there's no personal risk in that?
22 posted on 10/27/2003 6:08:24 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Long Cut
Known very many missionaries?

They are quite cognizent of the risks.
23 posted on 10/27/2003 6:09:51 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: antiRepublicrat
It's 'illegal' to smuggle Bibles into China. Should we stop?
24 posted on 10/27/2003 6:11:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
It's 'illegal' to smuggle Bibles into China. Should we stop?

It's your choice entirely after you've weighed perceived benefits vs. the risk involved. Just don't come crying when you get caught. Suck it up like the martyrs of past.

25 posted on 10/27/2003 6:16:24 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Just don't come crying when you get caught.

Are you a Christian?

26 posted on 10/27/2003 6:19:07 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: antiRepublicrat
Are you aware of the huge positive impact on the world that Christian evangleists have had over the centuries?
27 posted on 10/27/2003 6:20:45 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: antiRepublicrat
Are you aware that the fall of the Soviet Union and its satellite nations was fueled mainly by evangelization and the prayers of millions both in those countries and abroad?

Or are you possessed of the misconception that that great victory for humanity was primarily a political event?
28 posted on 10/27/2003 6:23:14 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: antiRepublicrat
What do you think would be the impact on the world's security situation if the Arab nations suddenly underwent a conversion to Christianity?

Think things might be a mite different?
29 posted on 10/27/2003 6:26:44 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: antiRepublicrat
IIRC, beheading is the more popular form of execution.

Yeah but beheading is sooo yesterday.

They have come up with new and more entertaining ways. Like the crowd-pleasing "bury them alive" execution and for the more merciful, the skillful yet effective "gouging out of the eyes"

Rawa

30 posted on 10/27/2003 6:32:25 AM PST by kanawa
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To: kanawa

31 posted on 10/27/2003 6:50:05 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Are you aware that the fall of the Soviet Union and its satellite nations was fueled mainly by evangelization and the prayers of millions both in those countries and abroad?

You keep deluding yourself. There were two main causes (aside from the fact that it was in itself an insupportable system): Ronald Reagan and the spread of easy communication.

32 posted on 10/27/2003 10:16:12 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: EternalVigilance
What do you think would be the impact on the world's security situation if the Arab nations suddenly underwent a conversion to Christianity?

Pretty positive. Also if all of Christianity converted to Islam. Also if all religions were wiped off this planet.

33 posted on 10/27/2003 10:17:53 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
I knew you'd say that.

Guess you didn't see those crowds of hundreds of thousands of brave people standing up to their communist oppressors by standing in the squares praying.
34 posted on 10/27/2003 10:18:48 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: kanawa
pleasing "bury them alive" execution and for the more merciful, the skillful yet effective "gouging out of the eyes"

Gotta please those crowds! You have reminded me of George Carlin's hilarious take on capital punishment.

35 posted on 10/27/2003 10:19:05 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Also if all of Christianity converted to Islam.

That just might be the silliest thing I've ever seen posted on FR.

36 posted on 10/27/2003 10:20:16 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: antiRepublicrat
I knew I smelt the odor of anti-Christian bigotry when I first got on this thread.
37 posted on 10/27/2003 10:22:43 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Guess you didn't see those crowds of hundreds of thousands of brave people standing up to their communist oppressors by standing in the squares praying.

Which they would not have dared do had not the government been weakened by Reagan. Which they couldn't have done had it not been for better communication. It is strange to see a conservative try to reduce the role Ronald Reagan played in bringing down the USSR.

38 posted on 10/27/2003 2:38:35 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: EternalVigilance
That just might be the silliest thing I've ever seen posted on FR.

Possibly. I try.

39 posted on 10/27/2003 2:39:26 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: EternalVigilance
Actually, I smelt the odor of anti-Muslim bigotry within the first couple lines of the story.
40 posted on 10/27/2003 2:41:00 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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