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To: Everybody
To whom it may concern:
I am a sophmore at Pope John Paul II high school and was a friend of Mark Drewes. Mark was by no means a bad kid or a delinquent. He was a kind, funny, amiable kid who never did wrong by anyone. None of you should be making such brash assumptions that he was up to no good or he was acting in a malicous way. Mark never intended to harm or damage the man who shot him in any way. He was just an innocent kid who was celebrating his 16th birthday with friends doing what kids do. I am good friends with the kid who was with Mark at the time and went to see him yesterday. He is so distraught and upset that he can hardly stand up and talk. He did manage to tell me though that they never meant any harm and that this was never supposed to happen. Also, for you information the game they were playing is called ding-dong-ditch. Its a popular game among teens where someone goes up to the door and knocks or rings the doorbell and when the door is opening runs away. That would explain how the bullet got into Mark's back. The man who shot Mark was completely in the wrong and should be prosecuted to the fullest. I just want everyone out there to know that at Pope everyone who knew Mark liked and loved him and will miss him dearly, and if you really believe he did something wrong and it was his fault he's dead I hope you see some of the footage of our homecoming dance where kids were hysterical to the brink of nearly passing out. I was Mark's friend and I hope that for his sake, his poor mother and father, his extended family, and friends that this man who killed him in cold blood is put away for many years.
201 posted on 10/26/2003 9:10:42 AM PST by durham62
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To: everyone
Also, i forgot to mention that saying Mark was 6'2" 210lbs is a gross exaggeration. He was close to 6'0" and maybe 190 at most.
203 posted on 10/26/2003 9:13:11 AM PST by durham62
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To: durham62
None of you should be making such brash assumptions that he was up to no good or he was acting in a malicous way.

I'm sorry you lost your friend, but he was "up to no good".

205 posted on 10/26/2003 9:15:35 AM PST by Flyer (You get more with a smile, a kind word and a gun than with a smile and a kind word)
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To: durham62
Also, for you information the game they were playing is called ding-dong-ditch. Its a popular game among teens...

Perhaps you should find another hobby.

206 posted on 10/26/2003 9:17:57 AM PST by Wormwood
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To: durham62
and if you really believe he did something wrong and it was his fault he's dead I hope you see some of the footage of our homecoming dance where kids were hysterical to the brink of nearly passing out.

Point of fact: sometimes popular and well-liked people do stupid, thoughtless things.

He was acting like a dumb punk, no matter how much y'all liked him.

Did he deserve to get shot? I suppose not. But sometimes when you invite trouble, you get it.

209 posted on 10/26/2003 9:23:09 AM PST by Wormwood
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To: durham62
Welcome to FreeRepublic. Sorry you came here under such circumstances.
213 posted on 10/26/2003 9:24:55 AM PST by gitmo (Hypocrite: Someone who dare aspire to a higher standard than he is living.)
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To: durham62
This is so sad. I'm afraid many adults here have forgotten the things they have done while juveniles.

I think some of us here remember growing up in better times, and think we were more innocent and childish than kids today. We see the change in times from when we were teenagers and maybe some adults think that you should too, and not do the things some adults did when they were kids and crime was not rampant.

Alot of adults are very fearful, because they have lived in safer times.

I am sad for you and other kids, that cannot grow up in the world that we did, and I am so sorry for the loss of your friend.
216 posted on 10/26/2003 9:26:50 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: durham62
for you[r] information the game they were playing is called ding-dong-ditch. Its a popular game among teens where someone goes up to the door and knocks or rings the doorbell and when the door is opening runs away.

Where do you stand, generally, after the doorbell is rung and you're waiting for the resident to 'come to the door'?

Do you stand in the shadows off to the side?

Are you in a crowched or semi-crowched posture?

Do you carry flashlights of other objectrs in your hands?

219 posted on 10/26/2003 9:42:47 AM PST by _Jim (<--- Rush speaks on gutless 'Liberalism' (RealAudio files))
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To: durham62
Ask your friend who was with him if they did any different at this house than the others - decided to stay at the door instead of ringing and running, or if the homeowner seemed to be right there to open the door within seconds after they rang the bell, like muawiyah says in post #86:

"If the kid was ringing and running, and the homeowner with the gun saw him face to face that would mean he was waiting for him to show up. It is possible that as soon as the bell was rung the homeowner threw open the door and shot the kid as he was turning to run away."

Many on here are taking the homeowner's word that he was asleep when he heard a knock, got out of bed, got his gun and then went to the door, and the kid was still there during all that time. I don't believe it. Why would they all of a sudden decide to not run at that house? They weren't wearing masks (or it would have been mentioned/found out) so what's the point of staying there to be witnessed? Ask the survivor: How many seconds after the knock was the door opened?

I do believe the homeowner was just inside the door with his gun ready when your friend got there. The homeowner could be plain mean and/or in a bad mood, so that when he noticed kids going around the neighborhood he could have decided to put an end to their fun. Drugs or alcohol could have played a part and impaired his judgement, made him paranoid, angry, etc. Notice how it mentions his eyes being red:

A shirtless and red-eyed Levin answered the door to his neatly landscaped home Saturday morning, but said only, "I can't talk to you," in response to a reporter's questions.

222 posted on 10/26/2003 9:47:53 AM PST by joan
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To: durham62
He was just an innocent kid who was celebrating his 16th birthday with friends doing what kids do.

By being a giant pain?

By annoying, bothering and yes, frightening people who he didn't know?

Your idea of "innocent fun" is quite warped.

What were you going to do for an encore? Hide in the bushes and jump out at people?

You and your friends are fools. And stupid in the bargain. People who are fools and stupid often come to an untimely end.

Allow me to explain a fact of life that you will find quite useful should you survive to grow up.

If you try to annoy, provoke, anger and frighten people... THEY WILL GET ANNOYED, PROVOKED, ANGRY AND FRIGHTENED!!!

When people are annoyed, provoked, angry and/or frightened sooner or later they will lash out. And someone is going to get hurt. That someone will likely be YOU.

When that happens expect me to shed no sad tears for you. You went looking for trouble. You found it.

Why you thought that this was a good idea I have no idea but I will venture to guess that you have been protected from any consequences of your actions for far to long.

Welcome to adulthood child. You are late arriving.

223 posted on 10/26/2003 9:48:01 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Maybe I should cut back on the coffee...)
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To: durham62
Also, for you information the game they were playing is called ding-dong-ditch.

There was a Beavis and Butthead episode along those lines.

But even they weren't dumb enough to try it at night.

225 posted on 10/26/2003 9:52:41 AM PST by Mulder (Fight the future)
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To: durham62
I'm sorry for your grief. However, your friend was very foolish and brought this whole thing on himself. Frightening people in the middle of the night is not funny and is malicious.
230 posted on 10/26/2003 9:59:49 AM PST by thathamiltonwoman
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To: durham62
...None of you should be making such brash assumptions that he was up to no good or he was acting in a malicous way...He was just an innocent kid who was celebrating his 16th birthday with friends doing what kids do...

He was up to no good. It's called "malicious mischief".

Mark never intended to harm or damage the man who shot him in any way.

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what Mark intended. What matters is whether or not the homeowner reasonably perceived him as a threat.

...Also, for you information the game they were playing is called ding-dong-ditch. Its a popular game among teens where someone goes up to the door and knocks or rings the doorbell and when the door is opening runs away.

Yes, we're all familiar with the game, although in my day it was popular only among pre-teens and only during daylight hours. Strangely, I only remember it being fun when someone got really upset and started screaming and yelling like a lunatic. Is that what Mark was after?

The man who shot Mark was completely in the wrong and should be prosecuted to the fullest.

If the man is telling the truth then he's done nothing wrong and will probably not be prosecuted at all. People are supporting him here because they believe his story, not because the kid deserved to die.

I just want everyone out there to know that at Pope everyone who knew Mark liked and loved him and will miss him dearly, and if you really believe he did something wrong and it was his fault he's dead I hope you see some of the footage of our homecoming dance where kids were hysterical to the brink of nearly passing out. I was Mark's friend and I hope that for his sake, his poor mother and father, his extended family, and friends that this man who killed him in cold blood is put away for many years.

I'm sorry that your friend is dead, but he's dead because of a horrible accident that was at least partly his own fault.

231 posted on 10/26/2003 10:00:49 AM PST by Frunabulax ("If the truth will kill them, let them die.")
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To: durham62
and if you really believe he did something wrong and it was his fault he's dead I hope you see some of the footage of our homecoming dance where kids were hysterical to the brink of nearly passing out.

If you intend to stick around on FR, you'd better learn the basics of logic very quickly. False "appeals to emotion" like you posted in the quoted sentence fragment above don't work too well around here.

I'm sorry your friend is dead, but any after-the-fact crying jags are 100% irrelevant to the facts of the case.

258 posted on 10/26/2003 12:04:59 PM PST by Timesink
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To: durham62
This is the equivalent of pedestrian running into a busy highway and blaming the drivers for hitting the pedestrian.
Sorry you lost your friend, but since you took the time to register today, your must not have known your friend as much as you thought.

From you desription of the "game", it is intended to cause aprehension. This would only contribute to the defensibility of the man's actions. We still have no independent verification of facts beyond the palm beach post article.
322 posted on 10/26/2003 4:19:06 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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