China blocks checks on US-origin dual-use goods

The Times of India ^ | 24 October, 2003 | PTI

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WASHINGTON : Chinese companies are allegedly refusing to cooperate with the US Commerce department in allowing checks on whether American dual-use goods sold to Beijing are being diverted for military purposes.

"We conduct such end-use verification visits without problem, in over 85 countries. However, we have difficulty on this issue in China , where the government often restricts our ability to conduct this routine activity, "Kenneth R. Juster, Undersecretary of Commerce, told reporters.

He warned that unless Beijing changes its policy, "our ability to license exports to certain Chinese companies will decrease."

Juster said that exports to China of licensed goods that have both civilian and military applications have increased sharply.

China bought $2.8 billion worth of dual-use goods last year-up from $515 million in 2001.

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Please tell me this doesn't surprise anybody.

[RiflemanSharpe]

ping

[RiflemanSharpe]

Fine, then do not sell them any of these good.

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Also reported in the Gertz/Scarborough Inside The Ring:

China blocks checks
Chinese companies are refusing to cooperate with the Commerce Department in allowing checks on whether U.S. goods sold to China are being diverted for military purposes, a senior Commerce Department official said this week.
"We conduct such end-use verification visits, without problem, in over 85 countries," said Kenneth R. Juster, undersecretary of commerce for industry and security.
"However, we have difficulty on this issue in China, where the government often restricts our ability to conduct this routine activity."
Unless Beijing changes its stance, "our ability to license exports to certain Chinese companies will decrease," he said.
Mr. Juster said exports to China of licensed goods that have military applications have increased sharply. China bought $2.8 billion worth of dual-use goods last year, up from $515 million in 2001.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

No doubt Zoellick will have another tough talk with them...yeah, that'll scare 'em.

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Ping

[RiflemanSharpe]

Like your tagline.

[harpseal]

Ping

on or off let me know

[Paulie]

No, not surprising at all. I don't think we're going to be too pleased with the outcome of this confrontation.

[WRhine]

China's blunt response to our reasonable request is indicative of their contempt of our government. Should this be a surprise after we have allowed Red China to Run the Tables on us and put hundreds of our manufacturers out of business? They KNOW we are a bunch of patsies.

[Paulie]

No, not surprising at all. I don't think we're going to be too pleased with the outcome of this confrontation.

[GOP_1900AD]

We should have crossed the Yalu. Failing that, we should have invaded N. Vietnam and done surgical strikes across the border into the PRC. Failing that, we should have responded with swift and unmistakable force to the attack on our P3. Failing that..... do we detect a detestable pattern of weakness here? If it is apparent to me, then it is apparent to the PLA and *all* of those who aid them in *any fashion*!

[Filibuster_60]

What does China have to worry about when they KNOW that companies like GE, Boeing, Applied Materials, Motorola, etc. probably have multi-million dollar lobbies in place to ease even the paltry export controls that are actually enforced? Don't expect US corporations to butt heads with Beijing for not complying with federal regulations when they themselves consider such regulations a nuisance.

Frankly speaking, the loss of sovereign control over our own capitalist class will be the ruin of our economic and technological leadership.

[WRhine]

Failing that..... do we detect a detestable pattern of weakness here? If it is apparent to me, then it is apparent to the PLA and *all* of those who aid them in *any fashion*!

Yes, the PRC and their enablers (American Traitors) have our number big time. It's A-P-P-E-A-S-E-R-S.

[WRhine]

Frankly speaking, the loss of sovereign control over our own capitalist class will be the ruin of our economic and technological leadership.

You Bet. It's the classic case of a Capitalist selling a Communist the very rope by which he will be hanged. I yearn for the Reagan Days when our government made sure that our technology remained out of the hands of our enemies. You know, it was only a couple of years ago that the PRC threatened to Nuke LA and downed (and later stripped) a reconnaissance plane of ours flying in international waters; incredibly demanding an apology from Bush.

You wouldn't know these incidents ever happened on listening to the Free Traitors that populate this forum. Apparently they believe it was all just a big misunderstanding. LOL.

[GOP_1900AD]

And companies like IBM, Cisco, HP, Dell, Nortel, Intel and Sun either build or source many of their products or parts of them in the PRC.

[GOP_1900AD]

Chamberlain whistling past the graveyard....

[Thisiswhoweare]

I'm shocked, SHOCKED.

But don't worry, the sharp rise in dual use items means nothing, the Chinese would never fight us - they make too much money from us.

(Canned answer #19 answer has been approved by the Free Trade Association at FR)

[Filibuster_60]

You Bet. It's the classic case of a Capitalist selling a Communist the very rope by which he will be hanged.

It's not very classic in the sense that China isn't a classic Communist nation. The Soviets never tolerated such a decentralized economy nor embraced such wholesale contradiction of Marxist ideology. It helps the Chinese that they're not out to prove the superiority of Communism; instead they seek to strengthen their peculiar brand of cutthroat socialism within the framework of a US-dominated global economy - toward the end of eroding US domination and ultimately supplanting it. Plus, having reconciled with us 30 years ago, nobody can seriously suggest treating them as an adversary again. For these reasons there never will be a Reaganite policy of confrontation against Beijing, as any president who carries even a modestly globalist agenda - and that's the best America can hope for nowadays - won't risk locking horns with the emerging colossus of the East. He may talk tough at times, like Bush has on the currency issue, but at the end of the day he has too much interest vested in the same internationalist order of which China has become an integral part.