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Failing Teachers
New York Times ^ | October 24, 2003 | BOB HERBERT

Posted on 10/24/2003 1:40:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Education," said John Dewey, "is the fundamental method of social progress and reform."

I've been talking recently with a handful of dedicated teachers about the classroom conditions that have festered over the past several years at some of New York City's least successful high schools. These are places where fear and loathing take up the space that could have been occupied by progress and reform.

You'll find these noisy, chaotic classrooms in almost any of America's big cities, not just New York. They are ruthlessly destructive, and scary to students and teachers alike. They are places where childhood dreams all too frequently expire.

"Sisyphus, that's me," said one teacher. "But I won't give up because I can't bear to walk away from these kids."

The teachers would not go on the record. They were afraid of being punished by school officials for speaking out. And some worried about reprisals from their own union because of comments critical of teachers.

"What goes on in these classrooms, that's the story of urban education," said a teacher from Brooklyn. "You've got kids playing dice in the back of the classroom. You've got kids listening to their Walkman, or writing rap rhymes. And rapping to girls. And also practicing gang signs. Now that's a classroom that's run by a teacher who doesn't care."

There were frequent references to "the back of the classroom." When I asked why, one teacher said: "There's a certain protocol to the room. If they sit in the back, the kids have specifically opted out of dealing with the classroom. They feel as though they can do whatever they want back there."

"They just slam their desks to the back of the room," said another teacher. "There might be 15 or 20 kids back there, with a space between their desks and the ones in the front of the room. The teacher just teaches the ones in the front."

"Remember," said a teacher from Manhattan, "these are just children. Teenagers. There is no reason to ever let them get out of control like that. But I would say that many of the teachers I've met don't care about their students."

A male teacher who runs very disciplined classes in Brooklyn spoke of the fear that plagues teachers and students in some schools. "You have violence in some of our schools, and people react to violence in different ways," he said. "You have teachers who have categorized all of the students as a problem. So they walk into the room afraid of the students without ever knowing them. To them, the students are one-dimensional. Everybody's a thug. Everybody's a problem. So they don't require anything of any of them.

"Meanwhile, the students themselves are scared. The class becomes undisciplined, and therefore dangerous. So the good students cut out because they don't want to be in that environment. That's one way you lose the good kids. You have a lot of students who are not thugs, but who left school because they couldn't learn - they couldn't even hear - in that noisy, disruptive atmosphere."

The teachers I talked to spread the blame widely among students, parents, teachers and administrators. But they were hardest on teachers.

"You have teachers who are very diligent," said a middle-aged teacher from the Bronx. "They work very hard, and even come up with money out of their own pockets to pay for supplies, or even to help these children when they are in trouble. But there are many, many others who are not remotely interested in these kids. They tell the kids to their faces: `I don't care what you do. I'm still going to get paid.'

"They mean it. They don't care. The kids pass classes they don't even attend, and attend classes they aren't even assigned to."

Said a teacher from Brooklyn: "Kids would literally go to their friends' classes. Just to hang out. One teacher laughed and said, `I should give you credit for this class, you've been here so many times.' "

The worst of the problems - the true extent of school violence, the utter chaos in some of the classrooms, the fraudulent grading and promotion practices, the widespread contempt heaped upon the students, and the scandalous lack of parental involvement - have not yet been fully and honestly revealed.

Real progress and real reform won't happen without an understanding of the real truth.


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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Boris' plan to "fix" education:

(1) No more mandatory schooling. School's out. Hit the beach; play Nintendo, go shopping. We don't care.

(2) At age 18, everyone takes the SAT tests (no exceptions). Kids who score less than [pick a number] will be marched outside and shot. The executions will be televised.

(3) For 'voluntary' schools, no more teaching certificates. Indeed, no more "Ed Schools". If you can teach, you get a job. Your salary is based on the average score of the kids in your class on a standardized test. The test is changed each year.

(4) Parents' tax refund is proportional to the same number. In the case of more than one offspring, use the average.

(5) The maximum teachers' salary is to equal the lowest salary paid to any NBA player in a given year.

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The lil' bastids will LEARN, I guar-un-tee.

Now, I am not really serious about the execution part. But what I am proposing is just a souped-up version of the (very successful) asian model, complete with "cram schools" and the occasional student suicide [can't take the pressure]. Learn or die; or at least 'learn or suffer'.

--Boris

21 posted on 10/24/2003 7:17:31 AM PDT by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Some of the teachers are in survival mode. They would teach if the students would let them. But administrators won't back up teachers when they refer multiple unruly students to administrators. Administrators say it is the teachers' responsibilities to control such "disciplinary" situation. So, while there are "dud" teachers, yes, the lawless environment discourages many.
22 posted on 10/24/2003 8:28:24 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
INTREP - DEWEY "EDUCATION REFORM" ALERT!
23 posted on 10/24/2003 8:28:47 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But there are many, many others [teachers] who are not remotely interested in these kids.

The administrators know these teachers are in there, but they can't fire them because of the unions. It costs $200,000 to fire a teacher in NY, no matter how bad he/she may be. And, it goes without saying that Bob Herbert adores unions.

This problem won't be solved until all union bosses are put on a boat and pushed out to sea.

24 posted on 10/24/2003 9:04:39 AM PDT by Aegedius (Money can buy happiness. Money can buy love. Money can't buy class.)
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To: xzins
Let's make the educational institution strictly for education. Get rid of all the trappings to include the lunchroom. You get about a 30-40 minute information dump, you go to the next class, etc., and then you go home and let your parents deal with your hormones and your social entertainment needs.

Indeed. That would put the responsibility where it belongs and save a lot of money for the taxpayers in the process...
25 posted on 10/24/2003 9:08:32 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
You would save money on buses, lunches, and extra-curricular activities.....drivers, cooks, coaches.

And the naysayers would cry, "Look at all the lost jobs." Not really. The buses could be a private business called a bus company. They'd be assured a twice a day clientele AND they could carry others for a fee, too.

The cooks would be part of a resurgent fast food industry for those older kids going home, or for grocery workers who'd see an upsurge in sales as families brought more food into the house for lunches. Coaches would be physical fitness and club operators who would promote their sports in the community.

At least one parent would have to be home to help raise the kids, so that would decrease the work-force and drive wages up for the fewer available workers. The children would be watched and guided by their own parents....(novel concept.)

In short, the entire community would benefit, imho.

26 posted on 10/24/2003 9:17:13 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins
Great analysis, xzins! I agree!
27 posted on 10/24/2003 9:27:50 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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