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1 posted on 10/23/2003 3:20:49 PM PDT by jmstein7
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I heard the radio interview on Sean Hanity's show yesterday. Zell is one of the few Democrats that I could vote for. The rest of the democRATS I would not touch with a ten foot pole. Make that a 20 foot pole. Parley
2 posted on 10/23/2003 3:24:07 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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bttt
3 posted on 10/23/2003 3:24:43 PM PDT by votelife (Elect a Filibuster Proof Majority)
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...Democrats have all but written off the South...

And the north, the east, and the west, too.

5 posted on 10/23/2003 3:29:27 PM PDT by rickmichaels
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Zell was not always this right leaning. I think his time in DC and the requirement of the DNC to have him under their collective thumbs, in a way he did not have to be when he was a Gov., was a real eye opener. On my otherwise all Repub ticket a few years ago, he was the only Dem notch I hit.
7 posted on 10/23/2003 3:42:28 PM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Al Franken is a pimple on the butt of liberalism)
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By playing to the left, the dimowits drive centrists away, shrinking their own base.
8 posted on 10/23/2003 3:46:33 PM PDT by samtheman
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The DNC is raising money for 2003 victories in 3 tight? southern races in Kentucky, Mississippi, and Louisiana.

11 posted on 10/23/2003 4:15:45 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberalism is a Sin!)
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Shocking, just shocking...that a Democrat can actually speak the truth. Especially about the meltdown of his own political party.

...Let's just hope Miller won't be found 'sleeping with the fishes' if you catch my drift.

-Regards, T.
13 posted on 10/23/2003 4:17:22 PM PDT by T Lady (.Freed From the Dimocratic Shackles since 1992)
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Retiring Sen. Zell Miller

Say it ain't so, Joe!

15 posted on 10/23/2003 4:39:51 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda
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If a retiring Republican senator came out with these comments about his/her party, we'd be seeing it as the lead story on every network and cable news program...and they'd all (except Fox), be giddy about it.
17 posted on 10/23/2003 4:54:51 PM PDT by floozy22
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The Southern senator noted that in 1972, Democratic presidential standard-bearer George McGovern failed to win a single Southern state in his landslide loss to incumbent Richard Nixon.

All true, however, it concerns me that the demographics of those "southern states" has changed considerably since that time. Liberals have insured that they are overflowing with immigrants who tend to vote overwhelmingly for the party that provides the biggest "transfer" payments to them.

18 posted on 10/23/2003 5:33:00 PM PDT by PLK
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20 posted on 10/23/2003 5:41:52 PM PDT by firewalk
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"A National Party No More: The Conscience of a Conservative Democrat."

Let's just hope he knows whereof he speaks.

FGS

22 posted on 10/23/2003 5:56:33 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: jmstein7; Perlstein; holdonnow; Nick Danger; Joe Hadenuf; Grampa Dave
It's not just Southern Democrats who are telling their Party the facts of life.

Former NYC Mayor Ed Koch has also told them the same thing, as has British Prime Minister Tony Blair, and so has former California Governor Jerry Brown.

Yet all of the genuises who labels themselves as "progressives" or "new Democrats" are ignoring the sage advice being given to them by their successful Democratic Party elders such as Senator Zell Miller.

Where is the national consensus that has to be built to win? Where's the "Vision" or bold new idea/plan?

Democrats can't just sit back and b!tch about Bush. It certainly didn't work in California against Schwarzenegger, and it didn't work for them in the 2002 mid-terms.

Nor can a major cult of personality figure save the Democrats, at least not without a Vision or national consensus (though I encourage Hillary to try it!).

Shoot, even Cuomo in New York is telling the Democrats to evolve past their current bash-Bush and fight, fight, fight nonsense, and he's not the sharpest tool in their shed.

24 posted on 10/23/2003 6:12:23 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Zell Miller Blast Dems, Says Party Is in 'Breakdown'

More "sound and fury, signifying nothing" from Zell.

I respect Zell, his service in the US Marines, and his expressions of revulsion
over the depravity of the party of which he is, AFAIK, a lifetime member.

After years of my thinking he'd truly wake up, smell the coffee and cross the aisle,
looks like he's going to stay with the folks he can hardly stand.
He is a text-book example of "learned helplessness"...like a traumatized
rat in an psychology experiment, he's frozen and won't even move towards a better place.
27 posted on 10/23/2003 6:30:46 PM PDT by VOA
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"They're just taking that shrinking Democratic base, that's about 32 percent right now, and they are appealing to the most shrill and the most active and the loudest - what they're doing is they're pulling this party further and further to the left."

That's the whole idea, Zell. This will be the first time the communist party USA has ever achieved such a large membership. And all they have to do is keep calling it the "democratic party."

29 posted on 10/23/2003 9:40:31 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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Well, Zell welcome to the republican party...WE COULD USE another RINO.... </snide>
31 posted on 10/24/2003 9:38:18 AM PDT by hosepipe
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