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SUV Seriously Injures Sunbather in Fla.
AP ^ | 10/23/03 | AP

Posted on 10/23/2003 2:03:50 PM PDT by TomServo

ORMOND BEACH, Fla. (AP) - A sport utility vehicle ran over a sunbather on the beach, seriously injuring the woman, authorities said.

Glenda Willits, 52, of Ormond Beach, was pinned under the front of the car after it backed into her Wednesday, said Deputy Chief Mike Hensler of the Volusia County Beach Patrol.

Willits was listed in serious condition Thursday in the Halifax Medical Center with injuries to her hip and shoulder.

The driver, a 30-year-old woman whose name was not released, apparently didn't see Willits, Hensler said.

Investigators were trying to determine whether to file charges.

Cars are allowed on many Florida beaches, including Ormond Beach.

In February, a police officer drove over two sisters on Miami's South Beach, killing one and injuring the other. The officer was not charged, but the women's family sued the city for negligence.


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To: Question_Assumptions
A lot of SUV drivers seem to think they are in a Cooper Mini by the way they drive.

And a lot of drivers in Cooper Mini-type vehicles think they're in an SUV.

Doesn't matter what stupid people are driving. I just get annoyed when they end up gumming up the tires on my SUV. ;-)

21 posted on 10/23/2003 2:30:40 PM PDT by Egon (Safety Tip: You can get AIDS by sitting at a public toilet before the previous person vacates!)
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To: Eagle Eye
Well, here's what Julie Wheeler of "Ceasefire Oregon" says about guns:

"A gun is like a rattlesnake. You can try to keep it in a cage, but sooner or later it's going to get out and hurt someone."

And guns don't even have motors and tires - Just imagine what she must think of SUVs!!!

22 posted on 10/23/2003 2:31:22 PM PDT by fire_eye
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To: Question_Assumptions
it doesn't help that they let must anyone drive those things.

Typical, Liberal elitist statement. Only us superior, Liberal folk can be allowed to decide what you peasants are allowed to do or have.

You sound like Hitlery.

23 posted on 10/23/2003 2:38:33 PM PDT by jimkress (Go away Pat Go away!)
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To: TomServo
The driver, a 30-year-old woman whose name was not released, apparently didn't see Willits, Hensler said.

The Driver is just a victim, afterall it was the SUV that ran over the person.

24 posted on 10/23/2003 2:38:57 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Fierce Allegiance
That fact (that there was a driver) wasn't mentioned until paragraph 4.
25 posted on 10/23/2003 2:41:10 PM PDT by stands2reason ("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
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To: TomServo
Moral: don't lay upon ground that others are driving upon. Let's put that on our never-to-do lists, like using hairdryers in the shower.
26 posted on 10/23/2003 2:42:31 PM PDT by Spok
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To: jimkress
Typical, Liberal elitist statement. Only us superior, Liberal folk can be allowed to decide what you peasants are allowed to do or have.

Do you think that people should be able to drive cars without being tested or getting a license first? Do you think that people should be able to drive full size busses and/or articulated trucks without being trained, tested, or licensed for vehicles that size? Do you believe in driver's licenses at all? Traffic laws? I hope not, because all of those things limit what the "peasants" are allowed to do or have.

27 posted on 10/23/2003 2:46:01 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: TomServo
A pen then ticketed the SUV driver before a police car took her away for further questioning. The field sobriety test that examined her has not yet reported its results, but witnesses say that she was seen being fed by a cans of beer just before the incident.
28 posted on 10/23/2003 2:47:08 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: Question_Assumptions
I just want them to know how to drive what they are driving.

Well, sure! Your reply seemed to indicate you assume that an SUV drives differently than any other vehicle. (Taking into account such properties as turn radius, acceleration, braking distance, roll-over characteristics, and so on.) I belive that these problems are driver-related, not vehicle specific. Publication of the vehicle type in such an article seems to be propaganda against the “horrible SUV” rather than the obvious shortcomings of the specific driver or the very weak driver's licensing requirements.

You seemed to be more concerned about the vehicle type than the gross ineptitude of the driver.

If safety were actually an issue with the government, driver licensing would be much more rigorous with "checkout rides" being required for each vehicle type the driver intends to drive. The tests would be given in normal driving conditions rather than "amongst the cones" in the parking lot.

29 posted on 10/23/2003 2:50:10 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: TomServo; newgeezer
SUV's are the worst passers of bicyclers out there too.
30 posted on 10/23/2003 2:52:17 PM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: TomServo
I hope that SUV gets ten years in a tiny cell with a big cement mixer named Bubba.
31 posted on 10/23/2003 2:56:14 PM PDT by Agnes Heep
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To: TomServo
"(AP) - A sport utility vehicle ran over a sunbather on the beach, seriously injuring the woman, authorities said."

Ah, yes. Here we have the AP pulling the Orwellian stunt of personalizing a tragedy by attributing an act of volition to an automobile.

How typical of Stalinists to mangle language for political ends, eh?

32 posted on 10/23/2003 3:00:15 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: GingisK
Well, sure! Your reply seemed to indicate you assume that an SUV drives differently than any other vehicle. (Taking into account such properties as turn radius, acceleration, braking distance, roll-over characteristics, and so on.) I belive that these problems are driver-related, not vehicle specific.

Actually, other than braking distance, those are the least of my concerns. I'm actually more concerned with visibility and blind spots than I am over an SUV owner rolling their own truck. But, no, I don't believe that a high center of gravity, increased weight, higher bumpers, darkly tinted windows, etc. are either meaningless or "driver-related".

Publication of the vehicle type in such an article seems to be propaganda against the "horrible SUV" rather than the obvious shortcomings of the specific driver or the very weak driver's licensing requirements.

The driver backed over the woman because she couldn't see her. Visibility is a problem with larger vehicles. This is why you see busses and trucks loaded up with things wide-angle mirrors and see-through vents on the doors.

You seemed to be more concerned about the vehicle type than the gross ineptitude of the driver.

I'm concerned about gross inept drivers getting behind the wheel of large vehicles. I never once said that comptent drivers should not be allowed to own and drive SUVs.

If safety were actually an issue with the government, driver licensing would be much more rigorous with "checkout rides" being required for each vehicle type the driver intends to drive. The tests would be given in normal driving conditions rather than "amongst the cones" in the parking lot.

Oh, I agree. But the voters wouldn't like that. One of the reasons that auto insurance is so expensive in "no fault" New Jersey is that bad drivers complain that their rates are too high so they wind up spreading the cost over everyone through price regulations.

Again, I am not complaining that people should not be allowed to drive SUVs. I am complaining that SUVs seem to bring out the worst in bad drivers and it would be nice to stop the bad drivers from buying SUVs.

33 posted on 10/23/2003 3:09:31 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
personally, I am against any and all licensing of any types....its not a safety issue...if it were it would be a much more stringent test..its really just a money grab...it it were a more stringent test...half the drivers out here would fail and that would cut too much revenue to the ever hungry buraucracy
The Capt.
34 posted on 10/23/2003 3:12:18 PM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: Capt.YankeeMike
If it were a safety issue, would you be more supportive of licensing?
35 posted on 10/23/2003 3:14:11 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
I just want them to know how to drive what they are driving.

Ok, lets start out with the retired folks and their oversized motor homes. However, I really don't think it's any of my business what people drive.

36 posted on 10/23/2003 3:20:31 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
Ok, lets start out with the retired folks and their oversized motor homes. However, I really don't think it's any of my business what people drive.

OK. Then let's shift the perspective. It may not be my business what other people drive but I think it is my business that they drive it (whatever it is) well enough not to kill me if they are sharing a road with me.

37 posted on 10/23/2003 3:33:05 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: TomServo
It's time to ban sunbathing.
38 posted on 10/23/2003 3:41:02 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: TomServo
I hate it when my SUV gets pale. It just drives itself out into the sun when it wants too.
39 posted on 10/23/2003 3:41:57 PM PDT by Beck_isright (Stock brokers are just like blackjack dealers; but a blackjack dealer has never lied to me.)
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To: TomServo
Just goes to show you how dangerous these SUVs are when left unattended.
40 posted on 10/23/2003 3:42:39 PM PDT by snooker
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