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1 posted on 10/22/2003 7:58:53 PM PDT by cpforlife.org
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Terri still in danger - PING
2 posted on 10/22/2003 7:59:48 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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Bumpin'...
3 posted on 10/22/2003 8:00:46 PM PDT by Libloather
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This is beyond unbelievable.
5 posted on 10/22/2003 8:01:34 PM PDT by WVNan
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By the time the family was able to get down to the hospital, her husband had removed her from the hospital and taken to an "undisclosed location" - we are told perhaps back to hospice.

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What's this? He's kidnapped her from the hospital? I'd like confirmation and explanation.

6 posted on 10/22/2003 8:03:38 PM PDT by RLK
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Once again, it becomes evident that Governor Bush has to send in the State Police or someone authorized by his executive authority to guard her from further judicial chicanery.
7 posted on 10/22/2003 8:04:04 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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cp

do we need to start contacting Ashcroft???
Any legal eagles who can help us know what is the next best step?
9 posted on 10/22/2003 8:06:59 PM PDT by tutstar
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Is there a lawyer in the house?

I don't understand this "legal guardian " bit at all. Surely the power of attorney is not an absolute right. She would have wanted her family to be there, at a minimum, and now he's denying the priest access to her? He has the right to change her religion?

If he decided to take her out to the barn and use her for target practice, would that be OK with the law, too?

10 posted on 10/22/2003 8:10:32 PM PDT by cookcounty
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This is unbelievable!

Can no one put a 'restraining order' on the husband. Shades of a Scott Peterson here. . .

12 posted on 10/22/2003 8:12:10 PM PDT by cricket
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Oh yeah...we all have to get our news from the news station now - they are telling Terri's parents nothing!!!!
Terri is back in hospice - they said her condition is stable - and that the feeding tube was just reinserted. So she has only had IV since last night....
Meanwhile the guardian ad litem only provides help in litigation and has nothing to do with actual guardian care of Terri....
15 posted on 10/22/2003 8:19:12 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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ping
18 posted on 10/22/2003 8:24:38 PM PDT by Dixielander
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If the guy wants to be rid of her, why can't he just make her family her legal guardian?
24 posted on 10/22/2003 8:41:37 PM PDT by Junior_G
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her husband had removed her from the hospital and taken to an "undisclosed location"

He wants her dead, even if he has to do it himself. Then he wants the body burned without an autopsy.
If she ever talks, he's toast.
I believe he tried to kill her, and now he's terrified she may some day tell about it.
I really fear for the poor girl. The man is insane !!!!

45 posted on 10/22/2003 9:08:07 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Have you donated to the Salvation Army? Liberals HATE Christian organizations! Tax deductable, too)
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I am posting this email, very quickly drafted and probably in need of tweeking so all of you can copy and send. We need to get momentum going again.

I can't find Ashcroft's address.

president@whitehouse.gov; vice.president@whitehouse.gov jeb.bush@myflorida.com

Dear Mr. President, Mr. Vice President and esteemed Governor:

I will make my email very brief because you have other pressing matters. I beg of you to intervene regarding Terri Schiavo. Her husband secretly removed her from the hospital despite Gov. Bush's executive order. Terri Schiavo is in grave danger while this man is her legal guardian. I will say it again, "grave danger". I ask that something be done and that he be removed at once, or at the very least, a guard be placed on her watch 24/7.

I send this email with the utmost of urgency. Please intervene. Please ask Attorney General Ashcroft to intervene.

Thank you.
xx
49 posted on 10/22/2003 9:16:23 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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Write Ashcroft and hound the US Atty in FL.

There's probable cause for. from another thread.

" Are you being hyperbolic? None of the video I saw showed that level of motor skill.

No. I an absolutly positive. The comm won't be in writing though, it'll be an audible and it would take someone like that speech therapist from the Chicago area to do it. I'm not sure how well she see's but her awareness of sound and touch is excellent. Apparently she never had a speech therapist. She can only vocalize sounds on an exhale.

The short

In PVS, there is no awareness, so affect(emotion) is inappropriate. Response to stimulation is not repeatable, their is no recognizable pattern to stimulation/response. ect. There's even a doc that did an evaluation, with a balloon. He was caught making a comment on tape "about following it a little bit", but is reported he later denied any response at all in court. The evaluation was bogus. She was trying her hardest(a display of understanding and effort) and he saw that(or didn't give a damn), so instead of keeping up with her, he nonchalantly huried it up. She recognized and reached out for Dad.(audio) She has recall, awareness and a lot of other things. I was expecting something tricky. She has more than most democrats.

As many appropriate med folks as possible should be given this media stuff, and give their opinions whether the woman is in a PVS. Then present the pile, start in small packs to get it going, to the feds and Ashcroft's office. Include the appropriate stuff from the Terrisfight.org for at least:

It's inconcievable that in any gathering of such docs, that such agreement on an erroneous observation could be reached, unless they were directed to come to certain conclutions. Greer commented that it was all high quality. It was rubbish.

Conspiracy *****************

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > Sec. 241.

Sec. 241. - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured -

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death. **************

It should also be sent to the appropriate states where they are licenced to practice medicine. I'm sure all of them and the feds have fraud satutes.

If that fat a*s r. king could get the benefit of a fed civil rights violation, this poor woman should. They showed him getting... Well have the media show the flicks with appropriate neuologists and speech therapists. Play the audio where she recognizes and calls her Dad.

51 posted on 10/22/2003 9:19:07 PM PDT by spunkets
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You know, cpforlife.org, I read these stories. And basically, my take-away so far seems to be: Hubby better watch his butt, or perhaps he will be accused on the charge of homocide soon -- maybe even the charge of murder.

So far he doesn't seem to be a particularly careful or crafty person. (Just a brutal one.) I'll bet you if he pushes it, he will almost certainly put himself in a position where he is legally culpable -- in terms of federal law, not just state law, pertaining to capital crimes involving handicapped victims.

Let's keep our vigil: We are the observers of what goes down. And then pray God for justice. Thank you so much for the fine post, cpforlife.org.

80 posted on 10/22/2003 9:50:47 PM PDT by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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Bobby Schindler is on CoastToCoastAM radio right now !!!

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99 posted on 10/22/2003 10:16:27 PM PDT by GeekDejure
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This would be a goulish movie if it wasn't real life. For the life of me, I can't understand why this guy persists in wanting to kill her when he can probably take the money her parents are offering, divorce her and come out farther ahead (no more legal fees).
130 posted on 10/23/2003 5:39:57 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone
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"First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out --
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out --
because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out --
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me --
and there was no one left to speak out for me."
~~Pastor Martin Niemoller
(victim of the Nazis)

Is there anything we can learn from this?
When they came for the Catholics?
When they came for the Baptists?
When they came for the fundamentalists?
When they came for the agnostics?
When they came for the physically disabled?
When they came for the mentally disabled?

Just something for all of us to think about -- is this picture larger than we currently see it?


136 posted on 10/23/2003 7:07:31 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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**It is an outrage that Michael Schiavo and his attorney feel they can spit in the face of the governor, the Fl House and Senate - and trample Terri's rights with absolutely no regard for her health, happines or wishes.**

Civil penalties -- attempted murder for Michael and Felos????

Eternal penalties -- from God??
137 posted on 10/23/2003 7:08:48 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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bttt
154 posted on 10/23/2003 9:23:06 AM PDT by firewalk
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