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TERRI SCHIAVO MISSING - REMOVED FROM HOSPITAL W/O FAMILY'S CONSENT [Update: She's back at Hospice]
Bay News 9 TV - Florida | 10/22/03 | dandelion

Posted on 10/22/2003 5:16:42 PM PDT by dandelion

Terri's brother, Bobby, just reported that Terri is MISSING!! He has been waiting all day to see her, he got the green light, and she's gone...

News 9 reporter said she's gone back to hospice, but the family does not know where she is and has NO CONFIRMATION.

BREAKING...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: hospicelackofcare; kidnapped; michaelisajerk; missing; schiavo; scumbag; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Well I'd prefer she was still in the hospital but according to the Miami Herald, she is being fed and her parents have been with her at the hospice.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1006219/posts?page=854#854
881 posted on 10/22/2003 8:44:39 PM PDT by katnip (It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains)
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To: eleni121
Don't you know that dying is a "happy" thing even if it isn't your time? and painless too. In other words, we need that bed you are occupying and how about some organs while we're at it. This is what's happening in America.
882 posted on 10/22/2003 8:45:01 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Please keep following Terri. Press Releases at terrisfight.org)
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To: RBurke
//Of course Michael wont allow that to happen--does this leave any doubt that his interests here are ONLY THE MONEY?//

Avoiding an attempted murder rap is much more important. I wish a little birdie would tell Michael that attempted murder doesn't get the Needle.
883 posted on 10/22/2003 8:45:51 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: fiesti
I hate to think or say out loud that yesterdays dealing in Tallahasse was just a political CYA thing

I'm beginning to think in those terms myself. On Brit Hume's news hour today Judge Napolitano (sp?) appeared to be quite certain the FL SC will quickly overturn the legislature's action and turn the poor woman back over to the godless court system which was allowing her scum-of-the-earth husband to kill her.

If Napolitano is right, the FL legislators, many of whom are no doubt lawyers, must have also known this when they voted for the new law. After the lady has expired from dehydration the hypocritical politicians can say, "Well, we did all we could and it's the fault of the FSC justices that she died". Technically that would be true, but it would still be hypocritical and self-serving. They will make brownie points with the electorate for trying to save her even though they knew their legislation would be overturned in court. But she will still be dead and her parents will still be devastated.

Nevertheless, God can and often does overrule the evil intentions of deceitful men and women in answer to prayer, as he did against all odds in FL during the attempted vote fraud. We need to keep lifting the lady up in believing prayer. As long as there is life there is the possibility God will intervene and frustrate all the enemy's carefully laid plans.

884 posted on 10/22/2003 8:46:00 PM PDT by epow
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To: RBurke
Great post!!! You are so right. I'm still suspicious about all the connections of the "players" here, to Hospice Boards of Directors.
885 posted on 10/22/2003 8:46:01 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Liberation Day!!! October 21, 2003 - Florida ** www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Tuxedo
That is true. But people like Schiavo can't be given full reign to keep the innocent from having a complacent/comfy/free life.
886 posted on 10/22/2003 8:46:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: irish_lad
I am compelled to but in on your condensending arrogance, irish_lad.

Someone else: "How does the heart know how to "beat" if she has no brain?"

irish_lad: "The brain's primitive functionality located in the cerebellum remains active even though conscious thought found the cerebral cortex is non-existant."

Words nearly fail me. The brain's "PRIMITIVE" functionality ... excuse me but the brain is highly complex and NOT thoroughly understood. You don't know if there is conscious thought or not. This is nothing more than cold, clinical speculation.

887 posted on 10/22/2003 8:46:56 PM PDT by nmh
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To: floriduh voter
Felos said on tv today something to the effect that the million dollars was in a trust and there was only 50K left.

Another question: WHO IS FELOS' CLIENT</b??

888 posted on 10/22/2003 8:46:57 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: RBurke
"A woman who is hurt under suspicious circumstances, should never have to trust her life and well being to that man again. "

So much for "you've come a long way, baby", eh? I've been waiting for the NOW gang to show up in defense of their sister, but I won't hold my breath.....
889 posted on 10/22/2003 8:47:12 PM PDT by PeyersPatches
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To: RBurke
Well, bump to everything you said. No argument here. Thanks for the points about hospice. What worries me is the ownership of that particular hospice and the financial ties of its board members. How much can they influence what is happening with the patients?

Many of the pro-death advocates have scary ties to healthcare. Do you know which agencies accredit and inspect Florida healthcare facilities?
890 posted on 10/22/2003 8:47:28 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; dandelion; kimmie7; Ragtime Cowgirl; summer
I’m not a lawyer and I didn’t stay in a Holiday Inn last night, but I have been reading up on the Florida Statutes with regard to guardianship. By the way, who is representing Terri’s parents (rhetorical)? What the heck have they been doing for all these years? This seems so obvious!

Reference: Florida Statutes, Chapter 744 "the Florida Guardianship Law"

First off, MS cannot take Terri out of the state without the court’s prior approval. See 744.2025 Change of ward's residence.

Next, MS’s extra-marital affair with children out of wedlock seems to me to be a severe conflict of interest for his guardianship. Therefore, the GAL should be empowered to seek MS’s removal as guardian. If the GAL being appointed pursuant to “Terri’s Law” doesn’t have standing to do this, it would appear that the parents could sue under 744.391 for appointment of a GAL. Here is the relevant section, emphasis added:

744.391 Actions by and against guardian or ward.--If an action is brought by the guardian against the ward, or vice versa, or if the interest of the guardian is adverse to that of his or her ward, a guardian ad litem shall be appointed to represent the ward in that particular litigation. In any litigation between the guardian and the ward, a guardian ad litem shall be appointed to represent the ward. If there is a conflict of interest between the guardian and the ward, the guardian ad litem shall petition the court for removal of the guardian. Judgments in favor of the ward shall become the property of the ward without the necessity for any assignment by the guardian or receipt by the ward upon termination of guardianship. The guardian may receive payment and satisfy any judgment in behalf of the ward without joinder by the ward.

Granted the above applies to suits against the guardian or the ward. However, I think anyone with some standing including the parents, Charlie Crist, or even Jeb could bring suit under the following sections enabling Terri to get a GAL to remove MS. Look at the list of reasons under which a guardian can be removed. How many of these apply to MS? Answer, a lot of them, which I’ve highlighted with bold underlining.Especially clause 11. I would be happy to explain my selections if they aren’t obvious to you.

744.474 Reasons for removal of guardian.--A guardian may be removed for any of the following reasons, and the removal shall be in addition to any other penalties prescribed by law:

(1) Fraud in obtaining her or his appointment.
(2) Failure to discharge her or his duties.
(3) Abuse of her or his powers.
(4) An incapacity or illness, including substance abuse, which renders the guardian incapable of discharging her or his duties.
(5) Failure to comply with any order of the court.
(6) Failure to return schedules of property sold or accounts of sales of property or to produce and exhibit the ward's assets when so required.
(7) The wasting, embezzlement, or other mismanagement of the ward's property.
(8) Failure to give bond or security for any purpose when required by the court or failure to file with the annual guardianship plan the evidence required by s. 744.351 that the sureties on her or his bond are alive and solvent.
(9) Conviction of a felony.
(10) Appointment of a receiver, trustee in bankruptcy, or liquidator for any corporate guardian.
(11) Development of a conflict of interest between the ward and the guardian.
(12) Having been found guilty of, regardless of adjudication, or entered a plea of nolo contendere or guilty to, any offense prohibited under s. 435.03 or under any similar statute of another jurisdiction.
(13) A material failure to comply with the guardianship report by the guardian.
(14) A failure to comply with the rules for timely filing the initial and annual guardianship reports.
(15) A failure to fulfill the guardianship education requirements.
(16) The improper management of the ward's assets.
(17) A material change in the ward's financial circumstances such that the guardian is no longer qualified to manage the finances of the ward, or the previous degree of management is no longer required.

Note in this section how the parents should be able to petition for MS’s removal for cause as noted above, again bold underlining added:

744.477 Proceedings for removal of a guardian.--Proceedings for removal of a guardian may be instituted by the court, by any surety or other interested person, or by the ward. Reasonable notice shall be given to the guardian. On the hearing, the court may enter an order that is proper considering the pleadings and the evidence.

891 posted on 10/22/2003 8:47:29 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: floriduh voter
What happened to last night and Jeb being appointed Terri's guardian? This is a nightmare.
892 posted on 10/22/2003 8:48:38 PM PDT by cgk (Bennett / Krauthammer: "When in doubt, you MUST opt for Life")
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To: floriduh voter
Apparently he is immune from perjury. I know of at least one instance in Federal court where he said Terri said "No tubes for me!" and others have said he said the same thing at other times. He is a lying perjurer.
893 posted on 10/22/2003 8:48:45 PM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: RBurke
1) Michael should divorce the woman he no longer loves--that much is obvious, he has no feelings for her besides her money. But if he divorces her, he would not be legally able to inherit the money he so desperately covets.>>>>>>>>>>>>

Reportedly the money is almost gone...they got Judge Greer to approve it's use for payment of legal fees......

I've found some goodies Felos plans to write a book (surely Michael will get a cut but no book if she lives??)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005175/posts
start at the end and work back...

894 posted on 10/22/2003 8:49:05 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; floriduh voter
RBA had an AWESOME idea! {{{hugs to you}}}!

See post 708 and print it out and plaster copies EVERYWHERE!
895 posted on 10/22/2003 8:49:52 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: RBurke
also see my 802 this hospice is in deep hot water.....but no one is doing anything about it
896 posted on 10/22/2003 8:50:35 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: Budge
Copy of stay can be seen here.

I've seen the stay. I wanted to see the authorizing legislation.

897 posted on 10/22/2003 8:51:50 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: sweetliberty
HOLD ON. FELOS had an elderly client who wished to be starved to death as her final wishes. At that time in 1989, the law would not permit such a thing. Once they massaged the exit protocols, food became medical treatment/life support and in 1990 the Florida Supremes found for old lady Browning that food would be considered life support or something like that.

Felos was bragging in the sptimes.com the other day that it was because of old lady Browning, his client, he was able to free Terri (off her). After the 1990 Supremes decision, Felos served on the Hospice Board. When he got wind of Terri, someone hooked him up with Michael Schiavo and Judge Greer and the fix was in. This is not my opinion. This is all because of old lady Browning. PER FELOS HIMSELF IN THE ST. PETERSBURG TIMES. Felos wants to keep starving & dehydrating vulnerable people. That's his mission in life.

898 posted on 10/22/2003 8:51:54 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Please keep following Terri. Press Releases at terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter
maybe I already pinged you on it but Felos plans to write a book, if she lives...how could he?
899 posted on 10/22/2003 8:52:08 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: Calpernia
Hugs? Hey, hugs are good! I'll take hugs!
900 posted on 10/22/2003 8:52:19 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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