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Lawmakers send Bush bill giving him power infeeding-tube case (Passed In House & Senate- Full Story)
AP | 10/21/03 | JACKIE HALLIFAX

Posted on 10/21/2003 1:21:45 PM PDT by kattracks

October 21, 2003, 4:14 PM EDT

TALLAHASSEE -- Lawmakers sent Gov. Jeb Bush a bill that will give him the power to order a feeding tube be reinserted into a brain-damaged woman in defiance of courts and her husband.

Bush said he will immediately sign the bill and order the tube to be reinserted into Terri Schiavo, the subject of one of the nation's longest and most bitter legal battles over care for a disabled person.

Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, want her to live. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, says she would rather die.

Schiavo's feeding tube was removed last Wednesday. Doctors have said the 39-year-old woman will die within a week to 10 days without nutrition and water.

Lawmakers were already called to the Capitol for a special session on economic development when they decided to intervene in the case.

Bush said he did not think lawmakers were motivated by politics.

``This is a response to a tragic situation.'' Bush said. ``People are responding to cries for help and I think it's legitimate.''

Sen. Tom Lee said Schiavo would ``essentially starve ... to death'' without intervention from lawmakers and the governor. ``It's a pretty awful way to go,'' said Lee, R-Brandon.

Opponents said government was stepping in where it had no business being.

``I do not believe the governor of Florida should be making a decision of life and death rather than the next of kin,'' said Sen. Steven Geller, D-Hallandale.

The House approved the bill 73-24 after the Senate passed it 23-15.

George Felos, a lawyer for Michael Schiavo, asked a judge to stop Bush even before he received the bill. A hearing was scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.

Earlier in Tampa, U.S. District Judge Steven Merryday denied a request by the Advocacy Center for Persons with Disabilities, which monitors the treatment of disabled adults, that Schiavo be kept alive so it could investigate whether removal of the tube was abusive.

Merryday wrote that federal courts _ other than the U.S. Supreme Court _ are forbidden from interjecting themselves into matters already decided by state courts. He also said the group failed to provide enough evidence to support its request.

The bill sent to Bush was designed to be as narrow as possible. It is limited to cases in which the patient left no living will, is in a persistent vegetative state, has had nutrition and hydration tubes removed and where a family member has challenged the removal.

Court-appointed doctors have described Schiavo as being in a vegetative state, caused when her heart stopped in 1990 from a suspected potassium imbalance.

Bush last week promised the woman's parents that he would help them if he could find a way.

The Florida Supreme Court has twice refused to hear the case, and it also has been rejected for review by the U.S. Supreme Court. Last week, a Florida appeals court again refused to block removal of the tube.

Felos said he thinks the legislation would be unconstitutional. It is Terri Schiavo's right under the Florida Constitution to not be kept alive artificially, and the courts have affirmed that, he said.

Pat Anderson, the attorney for the parents, said she was ``dumbfounded'' by the Legislature's action, although the Schindlers had hoped for such help in the wake of continued court defeats.

During a two-hour debate in the House, several Democrats argued that the Constitution doesn't let the Legislature give the governor the power to overrule the courts.

``This bill so oversteps our role it ... turns democracy on its head,'' said Rep. Dan Gelber, D-Miami Beach.

But many Republicans and some Democrats said they need to be involved in dire cases where judges might be wrong.

``The Constitution is supposed to protect the people of this state,'' said Rep. Sandy Murman, R-Tampa. ``Who is protecting this girl?''

Former Florida Supreme Court Justice Stephen Grimes said the case is unique and it is not clear whether the law will be upheld.

``It presents a new legal issue that I've never heard of,'' Grimes said.

Copyright © 2003, South Florida Sun-Sentinel



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jebbush; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Golden Gate
My real complaint is that I think this sets a bad precedent that the legislature can overturn a court ruling with a capricious, fit to purpose law.

Just wait for a Dem legislature and Dem governor to use this tactic against a ruling by a Conservative judge and cite this as precedent.

Don't say I didn't warn you.
161 posted on 10/21/2003 3:15:21 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: xzins
He should sign it as quickly as possible so no injunction can be issued against his signing.

He's already signed it, so it's moot. But no court would ever issue such an injunction against a Governor, and no Governor would feel bound to obey it. That would be the most egregious example of violating the separation of powers doctrine that I could imagine.

162 posted on 10/21/2003 3:15:47 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: adam_az
LOL, you fell apart rather quickly. The question is not moot at all. It's based on your 'logic'.

Your argument was based on the husband's so called promise to have her starve to death. If he has such loyalty to promises, then why is he committing adultery as he is still married to her?
163 posted on 10/21/2003 3:15:58 PM PDT by kenth (This is not your father's tagline.)
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To: adam_az
Might I suggest going to http://www.terrisfight.org and watching the video of her responses. I would not classify them as "automatic."
164 posted on 10/21/2003 3:16:59 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman.)
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To: adam_az; Admin Moderator; sweetliberty; Budge
GET LOST TROLL!!

Admin: Please tell this person to never post to me again! He just crossed my line! Thanks.

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165 posted on 10/21/2003 3:17:05 PM PDT by viaveritasvita
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To: sc2_ct
Double Bingo.
166 posted on 10/21/2003 3:17:07 PM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: adam_az
Demonicrat or Repub, all life is sacred and should be protected so cut the crap. It's the dems who are the party of death so it's perfectly reasonable that the party of life would act to protect Terri considering all of the reported anomalies in the case.

Thank God, thank Jeb and thank the members of the Florida legislature for going to bat for one who can not defend herself. Today is one of the good days.
167 posted on 10/21/2003 3:17:19 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (I've been making fine jewelry for years, apparently.)
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To: fiesti
I couldn't agree more! I am thrilled on both counts. Today our country made a choice for life, on 2 important fronts!

As to the separation of powers, this is how checks and balances is supposed to work, one branch of government keeping the others from going too far over the line, something that happens way too often anymore, particularly when it comes to the courts. It is high time they be brought in check by whatever means necessary. The bottom line is that when it comes down to obeying man's laws or God's laws, we are to obey God rather than man, and God's law says, "though shalt not commit murder."

168 posted on 10/21/2003 3:17:19 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: adam_az
Michael, is that you?????
169 posted on 10/21/2003 3:18:20 PM PDT by clouda
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To: kenth
I'm more concerned with the legal aspects of how this affects separation of powers

see my post at #161 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005315/posts?page=161#161

Are you saying that if he didn't keep one promise, then he must not keep any other promise? What a logical fallacy.
170 posted on 10/21/2003 3:18:26 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: viaveritasvita
boo.
171 posted on 10/21/2003 3:19:03 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: clouda
roflmao! That's what I was thinking :-)
172 posted on 10/21/2003 3:19:45 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Dog Gone
I did hear when pulling the tube and dehydration does not mean they did not hydrate Terri some other way, hope this is true! The judge also refused Michael stopping this!
174 posted on 10/21/2003 3:20:39 PM PDT by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: clouda
Cute, no, just someone who loves the constitution more than you do, apparently.
175 posted on 10/21/2003 3:20:40 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: Bikers4Bush
They are giving her an IV 1st, the tube is reinserted gradually so as to not shock her system.
176 posted on 10/21/2003 3:21:24 PM PDT by JustPiper (18 of 19 Hijackers had State issued Driver's License's !!!)
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To: JustPiper
Have they started on the IV yet?
177 posted on 10/21/2003 3:22:28 PM PDT by Cool Guy (Why is my comment a big jumbled mess?)
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To: adam_az
Knock off the personal attacks.
178 posted on 10/21/2003 3:22:55 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: adam_az
You don't seem to see the conservative principle at work here. We have a basic one, it's that the rights of the individual not be violated.

The courts, on hearsay evidence, sided with the husband who has a vested financial and adulterous interest in Terri's death. Going against Terri's rights as protected by Article 1, Section 2 of the Florida State Constitution, the court ordered that Terri's life may be subject to the whims of another person. Getting married does not confer ownership and a loss of rights, regardless of disability which is stated unequivocally in the aforementioned section.

This is not a right-to-die case, wherein one makes their own request, this is a right-to-kill case, in which one person is asking the courts the authority to kill another.
179 posted on 10/21/2003 3:23:05 PM PDT by kenth (This is not your father's tagline.)
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To: JustPiper
Her body issues are pretty fragile right now. It would cause damage to replace that tube right away IMO.
180 posted on 10/21/2003 3:23:05 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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