[Roughneck]

Cole contends that while many Americans say they are willing to give up some liberties to increase security, the government has ***largely sacrificed only the liberties of foreign nationals and immigrants****

I fail to see the "double" standard. He just does not mention the "illegal" (or criminal) phrase before immigrants, and , well, "foreign national" speaks for itself.

[ibheath]

ping for later

[Grut]

Freepers inclined to scoff at this guy's point might want to consider 18 USC 242:

Sec. 242. - Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

[R. Scott]

If we accept the premise that our Constitutional rights are only for citizens, I had better get a passport to prove my citizenship. I was born and raised right here in the USA, but I have nothing to carry proving my citizenship.
Maybe this is a backdoor push to make a national ID card necessary?
“Papers please?”

[lilylangtree]

Guess this fellow Cole forgot that the detainees have more religious freedom now and away from the normal islamic fanatic vitriol, as well as more food and proper shelter, than these characters ever had in their own country.

[anton]

Ford Foundation=Communist PArty!

Revoke thier 501(c)(3) staus and tax the crap out of them.

[LiteKeeper]

read later

[Klickitat]

ping

[mrustow]

FFR: Has the government operated with a "double standard" since September 11, 2001, that is, denying immigrants the civil liberties and constitutional protections that citizens enjoy?

This softball reminds me of interviewers' questions to ahtletes after big wins. "Andy, tell us how important this win was to you.... Andy, how did this win make you feel?"

Only citizens are supposed to enjoy civil liberties and rights. Heck, that's right in the definition of "civil rights." (As Casey would say, "You could look it up.") This has nothing to do with security; it's the de facto granting to foreigners of non-existent civil rights, which has been a scandal.

[A CA Guy]

My favorite part is we citizens can carry over a million dollars to our heirs without taxation.
Non-citizens think that is the case with them, but after some small number like $20,000, the rest of the estate is taxed at around 50%.

something about that seems right to me.

[theFIRMbss]

>An expert on immigration law argues that the 'double standard' for foreigners and U.S. citizens serves neither liberty nor security.

Let's make everyone
on the Earth a citizen
of the US! Then

they get all the rights
of any citizen. (And
they all pay taxes!)

[gubamyster]

ping

[usurper]

Aliens enjoy every constitutional right that citizens enjoy save two, the right to vote and more importantly the right to remain in the US. No alien has a right to enter or remain in the US it is exclusively to right of the legislative branch of government to determine how many aliens can legal enter, under what conditions and from what country we will accept them.

The executive branch has been granted broad authority to regulate immigration by law. The attorney general has very broad authority when it comes to immigrants particularly when we are under attack.

Frankly, if the congress passed a law saying that all aliens from say…..France must report in 30 days for a removal hearing that would meet the test.

It all completely constitutional that is what this attorney POS is on about. The Supreme Court has continually held that when it comes to immigration the legislative branch can pretty much do what they want, with the only limitation that the alien must have some form of due process before we boot his butt out.

His basic argument is that the secret hearings (which were only necessary because of A-hole lawyers such as himself) denied his client due process which is bunk and why he lost. Now he is relegated to writing anti American books as failures often do.

[4Freedom]

This has been discussed before. This isn't the first time these one-worlders have tried to claim that when the Founding Fathers said "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union,..." they were talking about foreigners, tourists, transients, temporary workers, illegal aliens, etc..

They weren't. All future references by the Founding Fathers to "the people" are made implicitly to citizens of the United States, too.

[hosepipe]

[ Has the government operated with a "double standard" since September 11, 2001, that is, denying immigrants the civil liberties and constitutional protections that citizens enjoy? ]

Said with a wry smile and in Barney Fifes uniform and brim of his hat off to one side.. in Barneys shakey way.....

Bwahahaha...

[Freemeorkillme]

Revisited BTTT