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Students can't bring gun to firearms class
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, October 21, 2003

Posted on 10/21/2003 1:33:12 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: *bang_list
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
21 posted on 10/21/2003 6:46:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("If you need a lawyer to tell you what your rights are, you don't have any rights.")
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To: Qwinn
"Whatever you can do to restrict, restrict." This should be the Democratic Party motto. Qwinnn

I thought it already was their motto. "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..." [President Bill Clinton, 'USA Today' March 11, 1993: Page 2A]

22 posted on 10/21/2003 9:25:34 AM PDT by TazforPrez
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To: JohnHuang2
"We're not teaching shooting. We're teaching safe handling of firearms."

What the heck are they doing handling them if they don't intend to use them?

23 posted on 10/21/2003 9:29:25 AM PDT by scan58
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To: goldstategop
That's like trying to teach driving skills to students without a car!

Or like teaching sex education without the sex...

24 posted on 10/21/2003 9:31:01 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: JohnHuang2
It's like teaching a math class without a calculator," Going slightly off the topic here, but teaching math without a calculator is how it should be done. The only time I needed a calculator in my years and years of math classes (including college courses) is when an instructor designed an exam to make it that you needed a calculator to find out what 2.245732 * 423.57 was. (Of course, you can find the result of that by hand, but not in the time it takes for a one hour exam...)
25 posted on 10/21/2003 9:35:57 AM PDT by Quick1
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To: sarasota
Hard to say. Overall, I think they have made people less,
not more, capable.
26 posted on 10/22/2003 6:32:53 AM PDT by macrahanish #1
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To: goldstategop
teach driving skills to students without a car

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm - Some districts already do that too - lol.

27 posted on 10/22/2003 6:38:03 AM PDT by Core_Conservative (To my wife, the Wonderful AND Beautiful - ODC-GIRL - Ready to Defend our Country 24x7!)
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To: macrahanish #1
I was afraid you'd say that. Does this mean that the dumbing-down continues?
28 posted on 10/22/2003 7:30:50 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: JohnHuang2
"It's like teaching a math class without a calculator..."

No it's not. It's not like that at all. Millions and millions of people learned to do math in their heads before the calculator was invented.

This is more like trying to teach auto shop without tools or cars.

29 posted on 10/22/2003 7:33:32 AM PDT by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: RatSlayer
I don't mean to be snooty, but your post made me laugh.

VIOLA

Uh, that's a stringed musical instrument. You mean Voila, French for 'There it is.'

Saying Viola is kinda like saying "Cello!"

30 posted on 10/22/2003 7:35:58 AM PDT by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: JohnHuang2
I grew up in rural New York state, born 1950. When I was in Junior High and High School, student hunters were allowed to bring their shotguns to school so they could hunt after school was let out. Opening season would find a dozen or so shotguns (unloaded) lined up in the front of homeroom.

We repected the system and feared the consequences of our fathers if we violated common sense rules. The Fear of Dad was enough to keep the boys in line.

31 posted on 10/22/2003 7:42:51 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: scan58
What the heck are they doing handling them if they don't intend to use them?

They have every right to use them. The constitution guarantees that. The idea of the course it to ensure that they know the dangers of the gun and how to prevent accidental shootings.

32 posted on 10/22/2003 7:47:02 AM PDT by meyer
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To: JohnHuang2
It is not simply idiotic or accidental or a silly example of so-called 'zero tolerance.' This is a deliberate policy to indoctrinate children with an irrational fear of firearms. Have you ever noticed when ever a gun or knife is involved the reaction is so out of proportion with the happenstance that it seems absurd? It is not that people get carried away with the rules or over-react. The over-reaction is the method of zero tolerance and the purpose is to engender fear. I'll take off my tinfoil hat now.
33 posted on 10/22/2003 7:50:11 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy.)
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To: Lion Den Dan
Lol, comparing guns and calculators is like comparing apples and Fords. :p
34 posted on 10/22/2003 8:00:34 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: JohnHuang2
"There needs to be some safety zones," Sue Brown, a school board member, told the paper. "And I think a school district and a school building should be held in higher regard than it is. It's a difficult climate; it's a different day and age. Whatever you can do to restrict, restrict."

Spoken like a true subject.

Actually, does anyone else picture a woman who was a slow and uncoordinated child, who cried during games of tag because she couldn't get to "home base"?

I wonder where the safety zones are in war, in business, in relationships, and in conflicts with government officials.

35 posted on 10/22/2003 8:04:21 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Petronski
Cello there!
36 posted on 10/22/2003 8:06:44 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: goldstategop
Liberal idiots. How can you teach a firearms instruction course without a gun? That's like trying to teach driving skills to students without a car!

You took the words out of my mouth

I guess Common Sense is not so common

37 posted on 10/22/2003 8:10:13 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: JohnHuang2
One of the best teachers I had was a Jr. High history teacher. Once he brought his entire antique and replica firearms collection to class to illustrate the history of the use of firearms in the world and the USA. He carefully supervised as each student examined and handled all sorts of firearms that were used back to the matchlock days. I also had a High School history teacher who was a reenactor of medieval knights. He brought his armor, lance, sword, spear and crossbow to class for the kids to check out.

Both of these guys would be fired today by ignorant administrators.
38 posted on 10/22/2003 8:19:29 AM PDT by Ghengis
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To: JohnHuang2
"There is not a kid in this country that doesn't know how to shoot a gun." "They've seen it on TV and in movies thousands and thousands of times

Why are wasting so much money on schools. Kids should also be able to learn how to read and write and do math by watching on TV. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy every kid a tv?

39 posted on 10/22/2003 8:20:17 AM PDT by paul51
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To: JohnHuang2
Most school boards operate hand in glove with the gangsters in the NEA. They are, for the most part, ignorant, witless, politically correct, craven, politican wannabes.

Non-thinking like this is typical of the NEA and School Boards nationwide - like the case of kids who were expelled for playing cops and robbers in the schoolyard and using their hands like guns.
40 posted on 10/22/2003 8:30:38 AM PDT by ZULU
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