Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Supermarkets slam Wal-Mart--Lower labor costs at heart of strikes by grocery workers
AP via Deseretnews ^ | October 21, 2003 | Gavin McCormick

Posted on 10/21/2003 12:35:40 AM PDT by ChemistCat

CROSS LANES, W.Va. — To find the cause of the nation's three supermarket strikes, just follow Judy Ranson's shopping cart.

An inveterate bargain hunter, Ranson used to chase down the best grocery deals at three stores: her local Kroger in Cross Lanes or down the road at a Fas Check in Dunbar and at a Poca Supermarket in Poca.

Now she makes one trip a week, to the Wal-Mart Supercenter, which opened five years ago a mile and a half down the road and across Interstate 64 from Kroger.

Ranson, who is 57, spends about $90 for herself and her husband. She estimates that she saves $40 to $50 off what she'd pay at the supermarket. "Kroger's prices are too high on a lot of stuff," she said. "I figure $100 ought to be enough to feed anyone for a week."

Officials at Kroger and the nation's other dominant supermarket chains — Ahold, Albertsons Inc. and Safeway Inc. — cite competition from Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and other box stores moving into the grocery business as a reason to hold the line on labor costs.

Those costs include health-care benefits that are the sticking point in United Food and Commercial Workers strikes of 3,300 workers at 44 Kroger stores in West Virginia, Kentucky and Ohio; 70,000 workers at three Southern California chains; and 10,000 workers at three chains in Missouri.

Similar struggles are expected within the next six months as UFCW contracts expire in the Phoenix and Washington, D.C., areas.

"Box stores are a very real threat," said Archie Fralin, a Kroger spokesman in Roanoke, Va. "Their lower labor costs make it imperative for us to manage costs. That's just a reality."

Wal-Mart doesn't break out earnings by division, so it's hard to calculate how much food it sells. But analysts say in just 10 years it has become the biggest player in the grocery business, last year capturing anywhere from 5 percent to 15 percent of the industry's $680 billion pie.

Traditional supermarket sales have dropped about 3 percent in the past year, estimates The Food Institute, a New Jersey-based trade group.

"The supermarket chains are still profitable, but executives see their market share down more than 5 percent over five years, and they're frightened," said George Whalin, president of Retail Management Consultants in San Marcos, Calif.

Lower labor costs for nonunion workers make up part of the advantage of box stores like Wal-Mart.

Including pension and health benefits, Kroger estimates it pays workers on average $6 an hour more in West Virginia than Wal-Mart. Burt Flickinger, managing partner of Strategic Resource Group in New York, says the difference in other parts of the country runs as high as $10 to $14 an hour for full-time workers.

At the Cross Lanes Kroger, striking UFCW workers say Wal-Mart's opening five years ago cost their store $100,000 in weekly receipts — between a third and a half of the store's income.

In response, workers say, Kroger has slashed the store's payroll from 86 to 45 full- and part-time workers.

"All we hear from management is 'Do more,' " said Kay Underwood, 49, a 29-year Kroger employee. "We did an employee survey, and the number of us on Paxil, Prozac, blood pressure medicines, you name it, has gone sky high. We're killing ourselves for this company."

Fralin wouldn't comment on individual Kroger store sales.

But he said industry studies show that Wal-Mart often takes as much as $100,000 a week from existing supermarkets, and he hypothesized that a store losing that much would see labor costs cut similarly.

Wal-Mart insists labor costs are just one part of a low-price formula that includes better purchasing logistics and information systems.

Analysts agree that the Arkansas chain's famously efficient ordering and distribution systems give it an edge, as does its clout in pushing for low wholesale prices. They also say supermarkets have room to improve.

"Most big chains went on a buying binge of smaller chains in the 1990s, and many of those acquisitions have not been fully integrated," said Mark Hamstra, editor of Supermarket News. "They still have costs to wring out from those buys."

Jim Lowthers is president of UFCW Local 400, which represents 30,000 food-industry workers in six states including West Virginia. He says his local has lost 5 percent of its members in five years.

"All these companies make billions of dollars, and all they want to say is 'Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart,' " he said. "They've joined together to say the only way to save is by reducing worker benefits. There's no reason they can't compete, profit and still take care of their employees."

Neil Stern, a partner with Chicago retail analyst firm McMillan/Doolittle, said he sympathizes with both management and workers.

"No one can say these retail workers are making too much money," Stern said. "At the same time, these companies are operating on an uneven playing field in terms of labor costs, and that can't continue."

Whalin calls the grocery industry invasion by box stores like Wal-Mart and Target, warehouse clubs like Costco and even drugstore chains like Longs a "sea change."

"Supermarkets have to do better at wringing the costs out of everything," he said. "But no matter what they do, in the long run they can't compete. Ultimately we're going to see fewer chains operating in each region — two, not three or four."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: grocery; strike; unionbosses; walmart; westvirginia
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-130 next last
To: volchef
Chili's, Applebees, TGIFridays

Do you have a source that these restaurants add preservatives to their food?

21 posted on 10/21/2003 1:29:45 AM PDT by stands2reason ("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Timesink
Also, do Wal-Mart employees not have to work hard?

Well, when I worked there it was like 1984 without the snazzy jumpsuits. I was a literal slave from clock-in to 2 hours late clock-out.

Great place to shop, horrible place to work.

22 posted on 10/21/2003 1:31:11 AM PDT by Hawkeye's Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Fledermaus
Hey, some people debate the only way they can....
23 posted on 10/21/2003 1:32:56 AM PDT by stands2reason ("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ChemistCat
"No one can say these retail workers are making too much money," Stern said. "At the same time, these companies are operating on an uneven playing field in terms of labor costs, and that can't continue."

Well, no one other than consumers who vote with their pocketbook. Oh right, the consumer. Forgot about them, huh?
24 posted on 10/21/2003 1:33:55 AM PDT by adam_az
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
I'm glad you are able to understand and admit your shortcomings.
25 posted on 10/21/2003 1:34:20 AM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm a conservative...not a Republican.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Hawkeye's Girl
OMG...did you not get a 15 minute break every other hour to go smoke?

26 posted on 10/21/2003 1:35:37 AM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm a conservative...not a Republican.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: stands2reason
Do you have a source that these restaurants add preservatives to their food?

Don't you mean add food to their preservatives?

27 posted on 10/21/2003 1:35:40 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: stands2reason
Do you have a source that these restaurants add preservatives to their food?

Maybe they should, it might taste better.

28 posted on 10/21/2003 1:36:27 AM PDT by adam_az
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Chandler
So you have a source, then? If it's common knowledge, I'm sure it came from somewhere.
29 posted on 10/21/2003 1:40:06 AM PDT by stands2reason ("What you see at fight club is a generation of men raised by women." -- Chuck Palahniuk)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: stands2reason
If I revealed my source I'd have to kill you.
30 posted on 10/21/2003 1:42:10 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (mislead, misled, lie, lied, failed, failure,leaked, revenge, etc., etc., etc..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Chandler
Sources, we don't need no stinkin' sources!
31 posted on 10/21/2003 1:43:03 AM PDT by ambrose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Fledermaus
No.

Seriously, it was awful. Being a minimum wage sales associate is like being a serf for management. You have to do whatever they say, so they take full advantage of it. Outlandish requests, forced overtime, haphazard schedules, verbal abuse, etc.

The lowest level of retail is usually bad in my experience, but Wal-Mart stood out for treating people like farm animals.

32 posted on 10/21/2003 1:43:55 AM PDT by Hawkeye's Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Chandler
Cotton candy has a lot of sugar in it

Source?

33 posted on 10/21/2003 1:44:34 AM PDT by ambrose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: ChemistCat
What is forgotten in the bash Wal-Mart debates are all of the small stores put out of business by the Kroger, Publix, Safeway, etc. chain stores. I remember when the hours for stores was 8 or 9 to 5 during the week and maybe til noon on Saturdays. You paid pretty much retail on everything. Good riddance. And America doesn't owe the Unions the exorbitant salaries they demand. If Wal-Mart hadn't filled the vacumn for volume discount sales someone else would have. The money I save by going to Wal-Mart can go toward my other bills and my kids. If Wal-Mart hikes up their prices to K-Mart levels, someone, someday will undercut them. It's called free enterprise.
34 posted on 10/21/2003 1:56:04 AM PDT by razorbak
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hawkeye's Girl
I can't help but laugh. A serf for management? Sorry, this sounds like spoiled rotten whine. Forced overtime? No one can force you to do anything. Don't like it, quit.

Did Wal-Mart come to your home and put a gun to your head? No. But, more importantly, I think you exaggerate. Outlandish request? Like what? Demanding people show up on time? I've seen for decades the descruction of the work ethic and what you consider verbal abuse or serfdom is probably not getting time off on Friday night to attend a keg party.

If the local management sucks, bring it up to corporate. I know enough about Wal-Mart to know they take this stuff serious. If local managers that are incompetent can't handle their jobs and threaten workers and "force" them to work off the clock (a charge made and proved wrong), then that is a manager that will be removed. I loved the guys getting fired when they said, "but they impose these standards on us" lie. Lie I say? Yes, Lie. How do I know?

I've seen this BS for decades. Bad managers make bad decisions to cover their own butts to get bonuses. Wal-Mart didn't become the largest corporation ON THE PLANET overwhelmingly disregarding labor laws like the left wing media like to present. Those managers get fired.

If you had valid labor law abuses to complain about when you worked for them (and your job description also showed you aren't a rocket scientist and maybe their ridgid structure might have done you some good), then you should have gotten a lawyer and sued them or went to the labor board in your state.
35 posted on 10/21/2003 2:00:23 AM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm a conservative...not a Republican.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: ChemistCat
It's the American way, of course. Wal-mart will win the day. I just hope nobody is expecting Wal-mart to STAY the cheapest when it's the only store left in town.

I just don't get the appeal of the WalMart "Superstores". I went in the new one closest to here soon after it opened. Why would anyone want to buy personal items they'll be wearing when the person in front of them is piling stuff like onions on the checkout counter?

Isn't there the danger of bugs and other stuff getting on other merchandise in the store, from the fresh foods? Yuck.

36 posted on 10/21/2003 2:07:21 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ambrose
Amazing how people will shed any sense of dignity and self-respect just to save a few shekels on some laundry detergent.

Good Lord, you are self righteous. Every post of yours, on every thread, DRIPS condescension.

How am I losing my dignity by shopping at Wal Mart? I buy all of my basics there because it works for me. I get my specialty foods at Whole Foods, my meat from a butcher, my seafood from the fish market, and my wine from a great little store in the French Quarter. Oh my, my dignity is in shreds because I buy my flour from Wal Mart...please get a grip.

37 posted on 10/21/2003 2:11:56 AM PDT by Grenada
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Fledermaus
I can't help but laugh. A serf for management? Sorry, this sounds like spoiled rotten whine. Forced overtime? No one can force you to do anything. Don't like it, quit.

I did.

Did Wal-Mart come to your home and put a gun to your head? No. But, more importantly, I think you exaggerate. Outlandish request? Like what? Demanding people show up on time? I've seen for decades the descruction of the work ethic and what you consider verbal abuse or serfdom is probably not getting time off on Friday night to attend a keg party.

No, what I saw was multiple managers dating associates against company rules and covering for each other so they could get away with it. I also saw people getting yelled for things completely beyond their control, such as the school supply aisle being a mess during the end of August due to heavy traffic.

If you had valid labor law abuses to complain about when you worked for them (and your job description also showed you aren't a rocket scientist and maybe their ridgid structure might have done you some good),

So that's why I'm in graduate school.

then you should have gotten a lawyer and sued them or went to the labor board in your state.

Listen, I worked for them during the summer to make some extra cash. Had I intended to stay there, that would have been something to consider, but as it was, it wasn't worth my time.

The particular Wal-Mart I worked at a few summers ago was awful compared to the other retail jobs I have worked. It wouldn't surprise me if others were better run.

38 posted on 10/21/2003 2:13:12 AM PDT by Hawkeye's Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: stands2reason
A few years ago I got sick on Chili's french fries, and the manager (while handing me coupons to eat free) said it could very well be that they had switched from fresh fries to frozen ones with the oil already fried in.

Next time I (stupidly) went into another Chili's, and it took over half an hour to get my salad. The reason they gave was they hadn't unpacked that delivery yet. I complained about the wait for the guaranteed fast lunch, and got more free coupons. I gave them to someone who looked borderline homeless. <^..^>

39 posted on 10/21/2003 2:15:15 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: razorbak
You have good points, but forget the concept that "small stores are put out of business".

That is urban legend stuff. Ancedotes used by idiots (not you) that don't understand markets. Look around any Wal-Mart store, Sam's club, Supercenters, etc. Do you see desloute land? No, you'll find more and more businesses that actually compete against the Wal-Mart. Strip malls, local stores, fast food, restaurants, other retail outlets.

The people that think Wal-Mart is taking over have blinders on. If they weren't so young and stupid, I'd say they were they same ones I knew as a young kid when I heard K-Mart, Sears and JCPenney would NEVER be taken down. When Wal-Mart really started exploding (post mid-1980's even though I knew they'd been around and started building mostly in the early 70's providing a service to mostly rural areas), the critics said they'd never get the market share to beat K-Mart or Woolworths, etc.

HA! The whiners live in the past. And what is ironic to me is that it's the left wing thinkers living in that past are being supported by so-called conservatives that really don't understand the free markets. They think for every Wal-Mart opened there is equivalent loss in sales from others. False. It increases the sales of all. As I pointed out above, the competition creates more opportunity and jobs to compete. If they were right, which they are not, then wouldn't a large Wal-Mart organization wipe out Home Depot, Lowes, Circuit City, Costco, etc? We even now have a Kohl's next to our Super Wal-Mart and Kohl's is run by left wing commie loving libearls that have their top gun in the U.S. Senate.

40 posted on 10/21/2003 2:15:44 AM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm a conservative...not a Republican.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-130 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson