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Officer: Saddam trained al-Qaida pre-9-11
http://www.worldnetdaily.com ^ | Posted: October 20, 2003 | WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 10/20/2003 6:22:43 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

Officer: Saddam trained al-Qaida pre-9-11
Iraqi paper says Fedayeen supervised hijack drills in summer 2001

Saddam Hussein ordered the training of al-Qaida members two months before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to an independent Iraqi weekly.

The Fedayeen, under the command of Saddam's late son Uday, directly supervised 100 al-Qaida fighters who were split into two groups, reported Al-Yawm Al-Aakher, citing an Iraqi officer identified by the initial L.

One group went to Al-Nahrawan and the second to Salman Pak, near Baghdad, where they were trained to hijack airplanes, the officer said in an article translated by the Washington, D.C.-based Middle East Media Research Institute.

According to the testimony of Iraqi military defector Sabah Khalifa Khodada Alami, Iraqi intelligence had a Boeing 707 fuselage at Salman Pak used to train groups how to hijack planes without weapons. His claims were consistent with commercial satellite photos showing the fuselage. Saddam's regime insisted to U.N. inspectors Salman Pak was an anti-terror training camp for Iraqi special forces.

The Iraqi weekly, quoting the anonymous officer, said senior Fedayeen officers visited the al-Qaida fighters almost daily, "especially during the final days when they transferred them, late at night in two red trucks that belonged to the Ministry of Transportation, to an undisclosed destination."

"I witnessed that with my own eyes because on that day I was the duty officer," he said.

The officer recalled one day a Land Cruiser belonging to Saddam's personal security force, Al-Amn Al-Khass, arrived, and a senior officer, one of Saddam's personal bodyguards, stepped out.

After a two-hour meeting with a select group of officers at the Special Forces school, the officer said "we were informed that we would have dear guests, and that we should train them very well in a high level of secrecy – not to allow anyone to approach them or to talk to them in any way, shape or form."

About 100 trainees arrived a few days later, he said, a mixture of Arabs, Arabs from the Saudi peninsula, Muslim Afghans and other Muslims from various parts of the world.

The training, he said, was under direct supervision of a major general he identified only by his initials, M. DH. L, who he said now serves as a police commander in one of the provinces.

Most left Iraq after completion of their training, but others stayed through the last battle in Baghdad against coalition forces earlier this year.

The officer said he remembers the leader of the group was a Saudi cleric named Muhammad "who was a fervent and audacious individual and did not require much training."

"He was highly skilled, and could fire accurately at a target while riding a motorcycle," the Iraqi officer said. "Additionally, he used to deliver fiery sermons calling for jihad and for fighting the Americans anywhere in the world."

Surprisingly, he continued, "this man's picture, alongside the commander of the Special Forces school, was televised several times before the beginning of the war and the fall of the former regime."

At the beginning of the Iraq war this year, the officer said, "we were surprised to see the same people whom we had trained return to the Special Forces school and with them 100 additional individuals. The high command asked us to retrain them and to divide them into several groups to be deployed in various areas in Iraq."

"Truth be told," he said, "most of these individuals competed to go to war and to the front lines. Therefore, under pressure they participated immediately in extremely fierce battles that astonished the Iraqis and the Americans."

On April 5, about 100 of the foreign trainees were sent to the 11th company division on the front lines in Nasiriya.

"And for the sake of history," he said, "I will say that this division's endurance was due to some formidable fighters, the commanding officer and members of al-Qaida who fought with intensity and brutality that are seldom matched, while they were praising Allah: Allahu Akbar [Allah is great] … Allahu Akbar. …"

These battled, which took place for 17 days, forced coalition troops to withdraw and re-enter from the industrial areas of Nasiriya, he noted.

Others went to al-Kifl, he said, and participated in "extremely brutal battles."

"Not many of them retreated and they sacrificed their lives to Apache [helicopter] fire, amid the admiration of the Iraqis and the Americans themselves," he said. "The proof is that some of them blew themselves up in the midst of American forces."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alaakher; alnahrawan; alqaeda; alqaedaandiraq; alyawmalaakher; fedayeen; iraq; salmanpak; trueevidence; uday
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To: GoGophers
"Most governments are very secretive about their counter-terrorism units (i.e., the early years of the Delta Force)."

The word your looking for is "no". Come on, say it, it isn't hard.

41 posted on 10/20/2003 9:12:43 PM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS! http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/)
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To: Sofa King
A 'no' it is then.

See #39

42 posted on 10/20/2003 9:12:51 PM PDT by GoGophers
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To: GoGophers
"You really don't know much about Iraqi politics do you?"

You're one of those people who think that the moonlanding was faked, aren't you?
43 posted on 10/20/2003 9:14:14 PM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS! http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/)
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To: Sofa King
Top 3 ways to know that you've won and internet debate (in progress).

Fourth way: The other person (Sofa King) can not answer relatively simple questions relevant to the debate.

44 posted on 10/20/2003 9:15:22 PM PDT by GoGophers
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To: Sofa King
You're one of those people who think that the moonlanding was faked, aren't you?

Fifth way: Stupid irrelevant attacks

By the way, the answer is no.

45 posted on 10/20/2003 9:16:45 PM PDT by GoGophers
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To: Sofa King
38 posts and no one's said it yet.

Smoking gun!
46 posted on 10/20/2003 9:18:02 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
You know, here's the deal. Here's how you can tell the conservative party. We don't go out and v.fosterize the commie/AQ media people as they deeply deserve, and as the left loves to do, at every turn, when they see fit.

Katie C., lookout, split-tail.

47 posted on 10/20/2003 9:18:20 PM PDT by txhurl (And I am a split-tail.)
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To: GoGophers
You mean like "Can you site any evidence of Saddam's counter-terrorism forces existing?"?

Or how about #5- your opponent goes to your profile to try to find something to use against you?

48 posted on 10/20/2003 9:19:36 PM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS! http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/)
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To: Sofa King
Or how about #5- your opponent goes to your profile to try to find something to use against you?

If the shoe fits....

49 posted on 10/20/2003 9:20:15 PM PDT by GoGophers
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To: GoGophers
"Fifth way: Stupid irrelevant attacks"

You mean like:

"You really don't know much about Iraqi politics do you?"

50 posted on 10/20/2003 9:20:42 PM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS! http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/)
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To: Tymesup
38 posts and no one's said it yet. Smoking gun!

A story published by an Iraqi paper needs to be corroborated before it means anything.

51 posted on 10/20/2003 9:20:56 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: GoGophers
#6, your opponent gives up using arguments and simply repeats random phrases.
52 posted on 10/20/2003 9:21:47 PM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS! http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/)
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To: Sofa King
You mean like "Can you site any evidence of Saddam's counter-terrorism forces existing?"?

Our government would not even acknowledge the existence of the Delta Force for a number of years and we live in a relatively open society. Does this mean the Delta Force did not exist until the government acknowledged its existence?

53 posted on 10/20/2003 9:22:38 PM PDT by GoGophers
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To: Sofa King
"You really don't know much about Iraqi politics do you?"

Claiming that Saddam would not be threatened by al-Queda operating within the borders of Iraq is substantial evidence of your ignorance. Concern over Islamic fundamentalism is one of the reasons Iraq invaded Iran in 1980.

54 posted on 10/20/2003 9:24:41 PM PDT by GoGophers
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Surprise, surprise...
55 posted on 10/20/2003 9:24:48 PM PDT by It's me
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To: Sofa King
#6, your opponent gives up using arguments and simply repeats random phrases.

Seeing as you can not even answer a simple question and know very little about Iraqi politics, I am calling it a night and going to bed. Maybe you will have answered my questions by the time I wake up.

56 posted on 10/20/2003 9:26:29 PM PDT by GoGophers
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Why is the Major American Media avoiding the part that the SALMAN PAK Terrorist Training Camp in Iraq played in the Jet Airliner Attacks of Sept. 11th

Wrong question.

The question should be: Why is George Bush ignoring the SALMON PAK evidence?

If true it is THE proof of Saddam's 9/11 envolvement. All theories will be given equal weight. I personally don't have a clue.

57 posted on 10/20/2003 9:26:56 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: GoGophers
"Our government would not even acknowledge the existence of the Delta Force for a number of years and we live in a relatively open society. Does this mean the Delta Force did not exist until the government acknowledged its existence?"

I can tell you what it doesn't mean: that Saddam and counter-terrorism units. You have no evidence that the training camp is for counter-terrorism units. No amount of floundering is going to change that fact.

"Claiming that Saddam would not be threatened by al-Queda operating within the borders of Iraq is substantial evidence of your ignorance. Concern over Islamic fundamentalism is one of the reasons Iraq invaded Iran in 1980."

Al-Queda is not Iran, and this is not 1980. All you do when you call me ignorant without actually bothering to give any reasoning why what I said was untrue is show yourself to be full of shit.

"Seeing as you can not even answer a simple question and know very little about Iraqi politics, I am calling it a night and going to bed. Maybe you will have answered my questions by the time I wake up."

Seeing as you have yet to answer my question, you really have no room to complain.
58 posted on 10/20/2003 9:37:58 PM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS! http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/)
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To: InterceptPoint
Don't think he's ignoring it. It's a card that he'll use, when appropriate.

In the meantime he can ID the media turncoats that need to be culled.

59 posted on 10/20/2003 9:44:44 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: GoGophers; Sofa King
Can you explain how al-Queda benefits from a partnership with the Iraq or why al-Queda would share operational information with the Iraqi government?

Al-Queda depends on terrorist states for funding and locations for training camps. Both Al-Queda and Saddam share a loathing for the U.S. and such a relationship would be beneficial to their needs. Saddam used chemical weapons against Iran and the Kurds. We know he feels humilated by the U.S. and President Bush 41. Would he so much as blink if he wanted Al-Queda to use his weapons in the U.S.?

In the past, Saddam was no friend to the Islamic fundamentalist movement. (I believe he said he wanted to march to Tehran and rip off the beard of the Ayatolla.) But now, he's not above exploiting them for his own gain, just look at the way his letters appeal to the zealots, urging them to "fight the crusaders" and "wage jihad." Rather interesting words from members of a dicatorship modeled on militant socialism and not an Islamic theocracy. The point is Saddam now has more to fear from us than he does the Ayatolla or the fundamentalists.
60 posted on 10/20/2003 9:46:45 PM PDT by nospinzone (What does it say on the bottom of Coke bottles at DU? It says "Open Other End.")
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