Statement by Jim Robinson Regarding the State of our Free Republic

October 20, 2003 | Jim Robinson

[sandydipper]

We agree. We need to stop the road hog we call the federal government. The bureacrats outnumber us and thier objective - I believe - is the total control of institution America.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about personal conduct.

I don't know if I would use how people act on the internet as 'personal conduct' - I doubt most people act even remotely in real-life as they do online... if they do, then this country is in even more sad shape than I thought ;0)

[Sabertooth]

You raise a good point. However, FR isn't a government, either ;0)

Never said it was.

However, in name and mission statement, FR's goal is to promote republicanism, is it not? Seems a fair assumption that members generally subscribe to those goals.

Isn't it desirable if, in pursit of those goals, members conduct themselves in accordance with the manner they expect our republican government to be conducted?

[Chad Fairbanks]

Isn't it desirable if, in pursit of those goals, members conduct themselves in accordance with the manner they expect our republican government to be conducted?

It's too early in the morning to be making sense like that Saber ;0)

[freekitty]

You've got my vote.

[woofie]

It's too early in the morning to be making sense like that

Anytime is a bad time to make sense

[BOBTHENAILER]

I see the Democrat Party as domestic enemy number one of the Constitution and therefor it is my sworn enemy.

You and me both, my friends.

[William Wallace]

Trying to get Jhoffa_ Transmission off the ground in the next 30 - 60 days. Met the girl of my dreams.

Congrats old friend! Best of luck to you both.

Eff AAMCO ;-)

[headsonpikes]

Up The Republic! Confusion Upon The Democrats!

Great post, Jim.

[ApesForEvolution]

Good for you.

[ApesForEvolution]

Nutshell BTTT

[fish hawk]

Every time I hear the word "freeper",I say, "yeah, I'm one of those!" Proud to stand with you, God Bless. "Aloha"

[ApesForEvolution]

You didn't buy the tatoo yet, did you?!

[VRWCmember]

Madame,

I normally stay out of arguments between FReepers, but several of your comments in this discussion simply must be challenged.

You called the notion that we are a republic and not a democracy "crap" and an insult to those who study history. Please refrain from using the Constitution as toilet paper like that. The US Constitution specifically guarantees to the states a republican form of government. You will not find a single reference to "democracy" in the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, or any other important document of our nation's founding. You will find several references to "republican" forms of government.

Your condescending comment to Chad about taking his opposition to democracy far away from all the "normal people" was rather pointless. Chad is exactly right that we need to do all we can to protect and reinforce the republican form of government and prevent the slide into "democracy" that makes both the constitution and the rule of law maleable into whatever a simple majority of a district court says they are.

Finally your statement that Chad (and by extension Jim Robinson) are arguing for a one party system is so absurd that I doubt anyone else here would take it seriously. However, absurd or not, it must be repudiated. Nobody is advocating a one party system. Jim and Chad and many others here recognize that the only viable way right now to halt the degradation of our country by the democrats is to vote for republicans since there is no viable 3rd party at the moment. If a 3rd party can ultimately arise with the ability to actually defeat the dems rather than split the conservative/moderate vote to give the dems victory thru plurality, then such a party will be a welcome addition. Until then, however, the actions of the Ross Perots and Pat Buchanans with their "People's Party" or "Reform Party" or "Pissed-off-because-I-never-get-my-way Party" will serve only to hand more power back to the democrats.

[VRWCmember]

Maybe FR is a "stakeholder democracy" or a "corporate republic."

Nope, it's neither. It's a privately owned institution, made available to its members. The members have no "stakeholder" interest and no voting rights, so it is not a democracy. The members do not elect the management or decision-makers, so it is not a republic. It's more like a large gathering of individuals who are welcomed by the owner to stay as long as they abide by the rules of the institution. Those who refuse to abide by the owner's wishes are required to leave, as is the owner's prerogative.

By the way, Jim, I think you do a great job and offer a great website. I spend way too much time here.

[wimpycat]

"...is there a conflict if members of a group whose purpose is republicanism don't cultivate republican behavior personally?"

No. There isn't. For one thing, who decides if someone else's personal behavior is "republican"? Is there a "Board of Arbiters of Republican Behavior" somewhere? And what sort of personal behavior are you considering? Is there a "republican" way to act in a restaurant, in a car, at family reunions, at work, etc? Or are you merely trying to go around your elbow to get to your thumb and say that Jim Robinson should conduct his website like a republican form of government? What point ARE you trying to make? Show your cards instead of pussyfooting around.

[CDHart]

Thanks! I'll check it out--

Carolyn

[William Wallace]

Awesome photos. Thanks P&W.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Good. Sign me up as extremely grateful to and 100% in support of you and your valuable and effective website.

Fight on against the many faces of the destructive left: liberalism, socialism, tyranny, corruption, lies, and evil!

[padfoot_lover]

Most inspiring! Thanks for this site -- it has given me hope for our nation's future!