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1 posted on 10/20/2003 9:55:39 AM PDT by riri
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ping
2 posted on 10/20/2003 9:56:08 AM PDT by riri
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"President Bush is requesting billions of dollars to rebuild Iraq, but I don't hear so much about rebuilding our economy and creating jobs here," Smith said. "I'm wondering what his focus is."

Guess this guy has not heard about the taxcuts and tax relief for buisness owners.

3 posted on 10/20/2003 9:58:39 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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FYI.......ping!

:-(

4 posted on 10/20/2003 9:58:40 AM PDT by maestro
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I wish these "heartland populists" would read today's article in the journal about how factory jobs have declined WORLDWIDE due to technological advances and increased productivity. This has been the case in countries as diverse as India, Brazil and the USA. I would post it but don't have a subscription to the online journal.

Why all of this nostalgia for smokestack America anyway. My grandfather worked in a factory and did everything possible to insure that his kids would move up into the white collar world.

5 posted on 10/20/2003 10:02:37 AM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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[ "I'm a free trader, but I'm also a fair trader. And I believe our manufacturing sector, for example, must be treated fairly in foreign markets," Bush said in a recent Cabinet meeting. ]

One can hope, but his Singapore/Chile trade deal was not fair (he added thousands of foreign visa jobs on his own).
And IMO his tax-cut is creating "trickle-OUT", not "trickle-down".
6 posted on 10/20/2003 10:04:36 AM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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Free trade as it is run now and it destructive effect is a growing issue on the minds of many Americans. Americans are findingit increasingly harder to make in the middle class. They will look for someone to blame.
8 posted on 10/20/2003 10:08:42 AM PDT by RiflemanSharpe (An American for a more socially and fiscally conservation America!)
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These are union jobs! What di you expect? The unions are trying to make these members as costly to private employers as government employees are to us taxpayers. We can't move public employees overseas (but, as their salaries, the cost of their benefits continue to rise rapidly and their productivity continues to drop, we may have to find some way), but private employers can.

Union extortion and industrial harmony that lasts to just the next outrageous demand will force many more union jobs to disappear.

11 posted on 10/20/2003 10:19:00 AM PDT by Tacis
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Excellent post. Now, we just need to wait a few minutes for the usual batch of Freeper's who will (no doubt) compare drill presses to buggy whips...

The very sad truth of this economic "recovery" is that people are still losing their jobs, and many are losing them to overseas competition. Makes one wonder just how long this "recovery" is going to last...

For those who think it's only "blue collar" jobs going overseas, guess again. There are just as many white collar jobs (IT, services of all sorts, legal, engineering, etc...) that are going away permenantly as well. This is not good for American, and it is definately not good for Bush, whether or not he had anything to do with it (which he didn't...)

I would not be surprised to see a major backlash against "(no so)free trade" in the years to come, and the Republicans are already on the wrong side of that issue.

12 posted on 10/20/2003 10:24:04 AM PDT by Ronzo (GOD alone is enough.)
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Ping

On or off let me know.

I suppose if we need to increase fighter jet production we can just import machine tools from China. I am not angry about a Spanish firm getting this contract as they have been allies in our war recently but I do think this is an area we need to carefully examine for keeping an essential defense industry in the USA.
18 posted on 10/20/2003 11:11:33 AM PDT by harpseal (stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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"If we keep losing jobs, my great fear is that early next year, Karl Rove, the president's political strategist, will say, 'Mr. President, it's time for you to join the China bashers.'"
--Economist David Hale of Hale Advisors,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1004110/posts
23 posted on 10/20/2003 11:28:15 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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I'm hoping (but not holding my breath) for the grossly overpaid and corrupt,beancounter/MBA/attorney Enron style wallstreetsucking heads of international capitalism to ultimately all be outsourced.
30 posted on 10/20/2003 12:19:14 PM PDT by IGNATIUS
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I told ya, I have said since NAFTA and GATT were passed that we were in for a labor job loss unrivaled in American history and it's coming to pass.

Shame on our GOP leaders for passing NAFTA and GATT to begin with. If nothing is done our country will become a country that can no longer provide for itself and will become a nation that is vulnerable to the whims of the world.

37 posted on 10/20/2003 1:24:11 PM PDT by pctech
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"I'm a free trader, but I'm also a fair trader. And I believe our manufacturing sector, for example, must be treated fairly in foreign markets," Bush said in a recent Cabinet meeting.

Note to President Bush: What you do is so loud we can't hear you!!

39 posted on 10/20/2003 1:44:08 PM PDT by EverOnward
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Where is Willie Green to the rescue?
45 posted on 10/20/2003 4:10:35 PM PDT by winker
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To: riri
BOHICA!
47 posted on 10/21/2003 5:10:21 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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