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| October 19, 2003
Posted on 10/19/2003 8:59:31 PM PDT by WackySam
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To: AFPhys
He is probably concerned that he won't be able to keep the lawsuit money in that case. More likely, he's already (illegally) spent it and needs to have the trust fund permanently in had so the shortage will never be discovered.
Plus in the (by now very unlikely) event that Terri were to make a substantial recovery when given treatment, Mr. Schiavo and George Felos would find themselves at the receiving end of a very big lawsuit for their earlier mistreatment of her.
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posted on
10/19/2003 9:40:58 PM PDT
by
supercat
(Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
To: WackySam
Why dehydrate her? That's pure sadism!
To: WackySam
Bump
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posted on
10/19/2003 9:47:25 PM PDT
by
sport
To: MHGinTN
Wasn't she taken off the tube once before? How long was it until she was put back on?
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posted on
10/19/2003 9:52:01 PM PDT
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: yonif
Wasn't she taken off the tube once before? How long was it until she was put back on?
60 Hours.
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posted on
10/19/2003 9:55:12 PM PDT
by
WackySam
("There's room for all God's creatures- right next to the taters")
To: All
This just in from Lisa, at the Hospice.
I am rushing!!!! Heads up people. Mary just left Terri. Terri is STILL responding to her mother!!!!!! PRAISE GOD!
Tomorrow there is a special session that Gov. Bush is going to attend and Terri's going to brought into it. Mike just called and said this is VERY HOPEFUL IF it is done in time. And for all of us to do everything we can at our end, to have them RUSH it as an emergency session!!! He said STAY ON THE GOVENOR as well.
I also have got the Senator's name who we need to contact NOW and stay on!!! This is HOPE again People, if Terri can fight, so can we!!! They ask that we do everything in our power.
So here's the info to contact the President of the Senate.
James King E-mail king.james.web@flsenate.gov (904) 727-3600 SunCom 841-3600 I have no idea what this # is FAX (904) 727-3603 Fax SunCon 841-3603 AND Keep reading...
I need someone to help me find Rep. House Speaker Johnny Byrd Jr's email and FAX number. He is in Talahassee, Florida. He is staying up all night working on this and IS for TERRI, I have just called his office (850) 488-1450 but his voice mailbox is FULL, so I need his email addy... can one of you help, find it, circualte this with his email addy and fax if you can do that and find it, get this info out NOW!!!! PLEASE this is what we've been waiting for...
PRAY PEOPLE PRAY.
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posted on
10/19/2003 9:55:13 PM PDT
by
pollywog
To: yonif
Wasn't she taken off the tube once before? How long was it until she was put back on? About 60 hours. By the time this bill gets introduced (if it does) it will have been more than double that.
If some attempt were made to give Terri oral food or hydration, many of us (well, me at least, but I suspect others as well) would feel a lot better. Of course, if Terri could eat and drink without a tube, there'd no longer be any excuse to kill her.
Some people are just plain evil.
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posted on
10/19/2003 9:56:16 PM PDT
by
supercat
(Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
To: All
Tommorrow I will be starting a new "command center" thread calling for the CRIMINAL PROSICUTION of Michael Schiavo for
MURDER (if this Andersonville "euthanasia" continues) or ATTEMPTED MURDER (If it does not), And the CRIMINAL PROSICUTION of Schiavo's lawyer and Judge Greer for CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MURDER.
This will be based on the clear evidence of attempt to murder present in the Bone Scan report and Mr Schiavo's own
words relation to his wife as sworn in affidavits by THREE Nurses "Is the ***** dead yet." (I refuse to even PARTIALLY spell that word out in a prayer thread.), and the posible use of insulin to kill Terri on at least two occasions.
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posted on
10/19/2003 9:59:52 PM PDT
by
Coral Snake
(Why do we allow a purjuring, software pirate traitor to continue to run our computers?)
To: pollywog
Capitol Office:
420 Capitol
402 South Monroe Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300
Phone: (850) 488-0807
District Office:
Suite 202
121 North Collins Street
Plant City, FL 33566-3311
Phone: (813) 752-5863
Email:
speakerbyrd@myfloridahouse.com
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posted on
10/19/2003 10:00:02 PM PDT
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: pollywog
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posted on
10/19/2003 10:04:15 PM PDT
by
WackySam
("There's room for all God's creatures- right next to the taters")
To: All
This just came in from Lisa at the Vigil.
I am rushing!!!! Heads up people. Mary just left Terri. Terri is STILL responding to her mother!!!!!! PRAISE GOD!
Tomorrow there is a special session that Gov. Bush is going to attend and Terri's going to brought into it. Mike just called and said this is VERY HOPEFUL IF it is done in time. And for all of us to do everything we can at our end, to have them RUSH it as an emergency session!!! He said STAY ON THE GOVENOR as well.
I also have got the Senator's name who we need to contact NOW and stay on!!! This is HOPE again People, if Terri can fight, so can we!!! They ask that we do everything in our power.
So here's the info to contact the President of the Senate.
James King E-mail king.james.web@flsenate.gov (904) 727-3600 SunCom 841-3600 I have no idea what this # is FAX (904) 727-3603 Fax SunCon 841-3603 AND Keep reading...
I need someone to help me find Rep. House Speaker Johnny Byrd Jr's email and FAX number. He is in Talahassee, Florida. He is staying up all night working on this and IS for TERRI, I have just called his office (850) 488-1450 but his voice mailbox is FULL, so I need his email addy... can one of you help, find it, circualte this with his email addy and fax if you can do that and find it, get this info out NOW!!!! PLEASE this is what we've been waiting for...
PRAY PEOPLE PRAY.
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posted on
10/19/2003 10:11:41 PM PDT
by
pollywog
To: MarMema
I didn't know either until earlier I went searching for info and found it has been scheduled since Oct. 9 to begin on Oct. 20 and end on Oct 24 to attempt to induce a CA Research Institute to locate in Palm Beach County...
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/6975711.htm I was only trying to keep the info correct as to how it was called
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posted on
10/19/2003 10:11:42 PM PDT
by
deport
(The Many, The Proud, The Winners)
To: WackySam; cyn
No doubt I'm missing something here: Who would wish to continue living in this condition? The reason so many people have living wills is because they want to avoid being condemned to such an existence.
If I were her husband, I would do the same thing. My wife, on the few occasions we have discussed it, has shunned the idea of being kept alive via any artificial means. I suspect most reasonable persons harbor similar sentiments. Who can blame them? A life stripped of all dignity is not worth living.
As I stated, there must be something I'm missing. What's the source of all the commotion?
- Absent a living will, we must assume the afflicted party wishes to remain alive at all costs - regardless of contrary testimony by a spouse?
- There should be no living wills?
Or is it something else? Seriously, I don't get it.
To: Petronius
If I were her husband, I would do the same thing. My wife, on the few occasions we have discussed it, has shunned the idea of being kept alive via any artificial means. I suspect most reasonable persons harbor similar sentiments. Who can blame them? A life stripped of all dignity is not worth living.
I think this helps point out the need to get something in writing, notarized and legal so that we can decided these while lucid rather than have it evolve like this has.
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posted on
10/19/2003 10:17:23 PM PDT
by
deport
(The Many, The Proud, The Winners)
To: deport
I think this helps point out the need to get something in writing, notarized and legal so that we can decided these while lucid rather than have it evolve like this has. And most of us won't "bother" to do this. I'll be amazed if my wife and I ever get around to it. As often as a related story comes up in the news we both promise to "take care of this, make it official," but we never do.
To: cyn
...there is every reason for custody to have been given over to her family. The family signed over all rights to Michael at the beginning. He told them it would help keep everything easier to deal with. They didn't realize what kind of man he was.
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posted on
10/19/2003 10:30:34 PM PDT
by
skr
(The liberals are only interested in seeking Weapons for Bush Destruction)
To: listera
"I don't understand why her husband doesn't divorce her and leave her and her family alone.
Something to do with the settlement money being used to pay for her care - if she lives, he gets none of it.
To: Petronius
A life stripped of all dignity is not worth living. Has anyone told Michael that?
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posted on
10/19/2003 10:31:45 PM PDT
by
Krodg
(I believe, I pray and I fight.)
To: Petronius
No doubt I'm missing something here: Who would wish to continue living in this condition? The reason so many people have living wills is because they want to avoid being condemned to such an existence. People in apparently-similar conditions, including very bad looking brain scans, have on occasion recovered substantially from such conditions given the right treatments; the brain is at times amazingly capable of regrowth. Unfortunately, we'll never know what therapy might have done for Terri because her HINO has prevented her from receiving any.
If therapy had been tried and proven incapable of producing any improvements, then it might be reasonable to begin to ask your question. But until then, no way.
If I were her husband, I would do the same thing. My wife, on the few occasions we have discussed it, has shunned the idea of being kept alive via any artificial means. I suspect most reasonable persons harbor similar sentiments. Who can blame them? A life stripped of all dignity is not worth living.
Again, all that is known is that Terri's HINO has worked to prevent any improvement in her condition. Put a healthy person in solitary confinement for thirteen years, forbid visitors for months at a time, and see how they feel about life then.
If Terri's life is miserable, it is in significant measure because Michael has deliberately worked to make it so. To allow him to then use such misery as an excuse to kill his wife is obscene.
As I stated, there must be something I'm missing. What's the source of all the commotion?
A few things:
- Twenty-six-year-olds generally do not collapse of cardiac arrest for no apparent reason. Many here think there's something fishy about her original collapse, especially considering affidavits from relatives indicating she was afraid of her husband and wanted to divorce him.
- At a malpractice trial, Terri was awarded $750K for rehabilitation and her husband awarded $300K for loss of consortium. These award were given after Terri's husband testified his intention to stay with Terri and rehabilitate her, and his doctors testified that, while brain-damaged, she could be expected to live a reasonably normal-lifespan.
- The only evidence of Terri's wish to die is hearsay by her husband and in-laws.
- Terri's survival of infections and an earlier starvation attempt suggest she has a strong will to live.
- Terri's husbamd has actively worked to prevent any therapy or treatment that might allow her condition to improve.
- Terri's husband has actively worked to prevent her from being taught to accept food and liquid orally, or even from being tested to see if she can do so without training.
- Terri's husband is using the fact that Terri needs to be tube-fed as justification for killing her, despite the fact that no efforts have been made to see if her need for the feed tube stems from anything other than his refusal to let her take food or liquid by mouth.
- Judge Greer allowed George Felos, her husband's attourney, to dismiss her guardian ad litem and has refused to appoint another. The $750K in her trust fund has not been used for rehabilitation, but $300K of it has been used to pay lawyer George Felos to try to have her killed.
- Terri's husband lives with another woman, has fathered two children by her, and calls her his fiancée.
- Terri's husband has ordered that Terri (Catholic) not be given communion, on the grounds that it might "agitate" her. [how?]
Need I go on?
- Absent a living will, we must assume the afflicted party wishes to remain alive at all costs - regardless of contrary testimony by a spouse?
How about kept alive at least to the extent that there is someone willing to pay for it, or money specifically earmarked for such purpose (the 750K)? I see no reason why a husband who acts so cruelly toward his wife should deserve one penny of the money which was put in trust for her rehabilitation and which refusese to spend for such purpose.
- There should be no living wills?
If people wish to put their wishes in writing, that's one thing. But to allow someone with a clear conflict of interest to remember a request not to be sustained on tubes only when such a statement suits his interest, and to regard such hearsay as "clear and compelling evidence" of intention is just plain wrong.
Or is it something else? Seriously, I don't get it.
Does the above help?
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posted on
10/19/2003 10:34:05 PM PDT
by
supercat
(Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
To: Petronius
And most of us won't "bother" to do this. I'll be amazed if my wife and I ever get around to it. As often as a related story comes up in the news we both promise to "take care of this, make it official," but we never do. Were it not for the trust fund, and the fact that Terri's relations with her spouse were less than cordial, I don't think there would have been such a conflict in this case. When there is a clear conflict between Michael's interests and Terri's, however, there's something fishy about Michael "remembering" Terri's claims not to want to be kept alive.
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posted on
10/19/2003 10:42:03 PM PDT
by
supercat
(Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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