Posted on 10/19/2003 1:57:16 PM PDT by Brian S
PTI[ SUNDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2003 08:06:03 PM ]
LONDON: Terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden has appointed his eldest son 26-year-old Saad Bin Laden as his successor and ordered him to attack British and US targets, a report quoting his latest audio tape said on Sunday.
The tape purportedly from the al-Qaeda leader on Saturday promised more suicide attacks inside and outside United States and other countries that supported the Iraq war and demanded the Americans to quit Iraq.
The news that Osama bin Laden had named son Saad as his successor forced British Intelligence Agency Mi5 Chief Eliza Manningham-Buller to warn that al-Qaeda was now stronger than ever, 'The Sunday Express' reported.
Bin Laden's decision to hand over the operations of al-Qaeda is seen as an indication that he is ill, the paper said.
Saad has been linked to last week's killing of Americans in Gaza. For the past one year, he has been based in Iran.
Laden, in his latest audio tape said, "We, God willing, will continue to fight you (US) and will continue martyrdom operations inside and outside the United States until you abandon your oppression and foolish acts."
My opinion is only from what I learn day to day, not what I believe "Must have happened". Did you read this thread from yesterday?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003539/posts
I'll believe he is dead when I see physical proof or lack of recordings after a military strike on his supposed location. :-)
It's been fun. I wish he WAS dead and all our troops were home safe and sound. Goodnight.
That said, without a body, we can search for ObL indefinitely. ObL could even be...
...at the DNC convention!
The CIA "sources" named by journalists (read "professional bush haters") are always "unnamed" sources. I take that as either illusionary or from the bush-hating clique in the CIA -- it's clear the agency hasn't said "Osama is alive" in any official capacity.
And Bush is VERY careful to always be equivocal on the question of Osama -- i.e., "he may be alive or may be dead" and its easy to understand what's behind that position -- on the 1 in 1million chance that Osama IS alive, Bush would not want to give Osama the satisfaction of pulling a real appearance AFTER Bush officially claimed he was dead.
But he IS dead.
The CIA is not in the business of casually vetting tapes thay some Arab journalist (read conspirator and enabler) gets his hands on. Any such info you read about is a tip or a plant. Why they do this; what reason they do this and what is the accuracy of the tip is just a pure guess.
Funny, I have to tried to state my beliefs on facts in this thread. You have gone from a belief to a conspiracy theory. So to sum it up: The cia can't detect voice patterns and the cia was Clintoon leftovers?
I don't know whether he is dead or not! The facts would suggest that he is not. What facts do you have that he IS dead? Because he was supposedly in the Torabora Mountain region when we bombed it? I don't want to argue this anymore, you believe what you want to believe and we will see how it all shakes out.
I don't know whether he is dead or not! The facts would suggest that he is not. What facts do you have that he IS dead? Because he was supposedly in the Torabora Mountain region when we bombed it? I don't want to argue this anymore, you believe what you want to believe and we will see how it all shakes out.
Conspiracy theory -- no. What I'm saying is that the science of voice recognition is, by admision of experts, not in any way an exact science -- compounded here by the source, i.w., scratchy cassettes that have been multiple times removed from the source tape. Familial resemblance can easily trick an investigator, especially under these circumstances. And we've all had the dual experiences of, on the one hand, hearing a voice from the past and instantly recognizing it, yet also calling a friend and, speaking to one of their children, mistake them for the friend -- so familial similarity, by one's own experience, is powerful.
So the claimants claim something that cannot be claimed. And the journalists could easily 'know' this, but they are of course intellectually incurious -- because they are interested in embarassing Bush and the Repubs. Or haven't you noticed the way that they assume that he is alive in their writings when normal prudence would require qulifying words.
My assertion that he is DEAD is based on the accumulation of negative evidence that he is alive. Being alive, by the way, is EASILY proven, as you know! Failure to prove it when it is in your interest to do so, over and over again, each time increases the likelihood, even at some point the certainty, that he is dead. That's not 'conspiracy', its a legitimate assumption upon evidence.
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