Ann Coulter, Saucy Siren Of The Right, Sounds Off

The Day.com ^ | Published on 10/19/2003 | By FRAZIER MOORE

[AFPhys]

Read the book: Treason. You have been duped by the liberal mediots regarding McCarthy. Nothing you dig up from the internet is going to help you here. Read Ann's book.

[RatSlayer]

Semper said:

"No. You don't get a DFC for "flying enought missions" (that would be an Air Medal). You get a DFC for demonstrating uncommon courage in air combat. (Which tailgunner Joe did not do.) "

Sorry, but your wrong on this. Soon after VJ day the DOD offered all airmen who flew a certain number of combat missions a DFC. Combat missions were defined as any mission where enemy fire was a possiblility.

It is my opinion that this was done because the attrition rate in the air corps was so high (over 25%) that they decided anyone who survuced a certain number of missions deserved medals.

Unfortunately 50 years of smears against Joe has buried this little tidbit of information, so few people now know it.

Your obviously not going to believe my word or Ann's, so you'll have to wait for me get the book from the library that I need for the cite.

Semper said:

"Why you would equate your friend's dad accepting an award (which he most likely earned) with Joe McCarthy claiming credit for an award which he certainly did not earn is odd."

No it's not odd. You just weren't willing to take my word that I know why my friend's dad was awarded his DFC. I happen to know that he only took fire in one instance. It was from a 109 that he subsequently shot down. Hardly the stuff of heroism. Hundreds of other gunners has more immpressive combat records.

Semper said:

"What evidence was there that your friend's dad made up that story to help him get elected to public office? "

You misread something here. The politcal story concerns McCarthy not my friend's dad. Joe's opponent in a political race tried to use this smear against McCarthy, because Joe's opponent never served and thus needed some way to take the sheen from Joe's service.

BTW, if you think peer reviews are so hot and more to be trusted, then why is it you believe the Senate that censured Joe, but not the officers that reviewed Joe's record and awarded him a DFC? Which is it? Peer reviews bad or peer reviews don't mean squat?

[Semper]

You have been duped by the liberal mediots regarding McCarthy. Nothing you dig up from the internet is going to help you here.

Even if it is the truth? How about you doing some serious research on McCarthy. Watch some video of him and see what kind of man he was. When I was in school, he was on TV and my impression was that he was not someone I would trust. I still believe that but it is based upon more than just an impression.

[El Gato]

She is practically transparent right now. 30 pounds would not make Coulter fat, it would make her visible.

While I like a few more curves as well, some people are just naturally thin. For her gaining thirty pounds would not be healthy. She's not gaunt, just thin. I doubt if you'd like the way she looked if she did gain thirty pounds, since most of it wouldn't be in the "right" places, most likly. Five or ten maybe, would fill her out a little, but she's fine the way she is as well. She's pretty, and more importantly she's both savy and smart. All that and you wnat pnuematic too?

[Stultis]

but you get the feeling he's dying to nail her

I got the feeling he'd prefer her brother.

[Qwinn]

"When I was in school, he was on TV and my impression was that he was not someone I would trust. I still believe that but it is based upon more than just an impression."

Could your impression have been in any way affected by those censure hearings where the media broke into vigorous applause every time he was condemned? Do you think there is no way that the media APPLAUDING throughout the entire censure proceeding (read: show trial) might have had any effect on his "peer review"?

By the way, even as broken as he was at the end, McCarthy still had an impressively large and respectful funeral (I lack the exact figures - read Ann's book). His death was mourned by many, even if it only received silence or smears in the mainstream press. That's the kind of peer review I care about, not what the media thought and not what a bunch of senators absolutely terrified by a relentlessly applauding media voted for.

Qwinn

[NewRomeTacitus]

Awarding of medals:
Lyndon Johnson "earning" the Silver Star was far more heinous than any misapplication in McCarthy's case. This link has the story: http://www.b-26marauderarchive.org/MS/MS1709/MS1709.htm

[El Gato]

McCarty did no service to anti-Communism in that he managed to prosecute ZERO communists;

Last I checked, it isn't the business of the United States Senate to prosecute anyone. That's an executive branch responsibility, and what McCarty was trying to do was show was expecting them to do that at the time was like expecting the fox to zealously guard the chickens.

[El Gato]

Wait, wasn't Colin Powell a Bush appointment? Is he a puke, too? Does that make Bush a puke? Just wondering

Powell is not "entrenched", he serves at the pleasure of the President. When a new President comes in, Powell will go, if not before. The pukes are civil servants and are very difficult to get rid of, hence they are "entrenched", more or less.

[El Gato]

Clinton was never fully impeached by Congress

But he was "fully impeached". The fact that Senate refused to even look at any evidence, and did not convict him and remove him from office in that proceeding that passed for a "trial", does not change the fact that Billy Jeff may be forever referred to as "The Impeached One".

[truthandjustice1]

On this we agree. I hope history books reflect this as well.

[El Gato]

The Senate voted not to impeach Clinton.

The Senate voted not to *convict* him of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors. The House had already *impeached* his sorry hide. It should have been for "Treason and Bribery" as well as "Other High Crimes and Misdomeanors".

See US Constitution, Art I sections 2 and 3, and also Art II section 4.

[mil-vet]

Amusing post!

“Everything isn't black and white,” counters historian Radosh....

....but right and wrong ARE black and white, and shrill Liberal Socialist Pondscum (LSP) denials will not change this. Equally fictional are the contentions that Ann's research is suspect; anything which shows LSP in the light of truth is suspect as far as LSP are concerned! As Ann points out in Treason, screaming in protest and baseless personal attacks are the standard LSP techniques to counter truth, an example of which is "accurate research"!

The author of this article is, clearly, looking for a way to discredit Ann specifically and truth in general! How laughably typical about LSP!!

[El Gato]

No. You don't get a DFC for "flying enought missions" (that would be an Air Medal). You get a DFC for demonstrating uncommon courage in air combat. (Which tailgunner Joe did not do.)

Often times medals are awarded based on "stock" criteria, such a completeling a given number of missions, or serving in a particular location for a certain number of days. Besides, the DFC is not awarded only for "uncommon courage in air combat" but also for "extraordinary achievement", in fact the criteria does not require combat at all, only that the event occur during aerial flight. Lindberg got one for flying the Atlantic, and even Amehilia Airheart got one, as did the Wright brothers, retroactively in their case.

After a little seraching around to try to find the *real* criteria used in WW-II. I gound the following:

Included was a medal Mulcahy couldn’t recall ever actually having had in his hand: the Distinguished Flying Cross awarded for completing 20 combat missions in the western Pacific between March 29 and June 19, 1945. “I had it on paper,” he recalled." here .

So apparently, in at least some cases, the DFC was awarded on the basis of combat missions flown. Undoubtably the "real" criteria has changed since WW-II, so your experience may be different.

[El Gato]

After a little seraching around to try to find the *real* criteria used in WW-II. I gound the following:

Heavens to Murgatroy. I'll try that again.

After a little searching. I found the following:

[NewRomeTacitus]

Somebody check on El Gato. He was about to share some kind of information when he was cut off. Please don't tell us that the Duz are actively kidnapping people!

Seriously, the "mean, old McCarthy" thing has been overheard by developing youngsters for over two generations now. Urban legend extroirdinaire'. The Democrats wore him out and he fell to alcoholism. Much like liberals will tell each other when (if?) Ted finally burns.
If we won't bother to correct historical misconceptions the future will see hogwash as unDISPUTED truth.

[RatSlayer]

Yeah, I heard that one live, but I missed this latest one. That was a hoot too.

[RatSlayer]

El Gato was only trying to correct his errors from the previous post where he mangled the grammer and a had a couple of typing errors.

[El Gato]

Somebody check on El Gato.

Consider it done. Just had supper with my wife, a rare occurance, and then went to the supermarket. My wife lives 350 or so miles away. Or I should say I live I 350 miles from *her* and my younger daughter. Not marital problems, but rather the result of Clintonsizing in 1998. She travels a lot in her "job", and so gets down to see me more often than I get up to see them, but it's still not too often. Then I was busy on other threads, until I just punched "My Comments".

Why would Duz, well Duzzy, the son of a good friend of my Dad, who is now a two star general in the Army want to kidnap me? :)

[185JHP]

"Are you now - or have you ever been - comfy?" Snide leftist bile.