Ann Coulter, Saucy Siren Of The Right, Sounds Off

The Day.com ^ | Published on 10/19/2003 | By FRAZIER MOORE

[truthandjustice1]

"evalations."

Not trying to be picky, but in the Navy it was spelled "evaluations". But then again, the Marines were just different.

[rohry]

"Are you laughing too much to explain why the Senate condemned Senator McCarthy?"

Read the book. The 8th grader got his "facts" from Expedia or some other soure which is edited and put together by liberals. His "facts" are wrong. His "facts" are credible to you because all you want to focus on is the fact that his enemies took him down and orchestrated a censure.

I've never seen anyone comment so much on a book that he hadn't read. By the way, the vast majority of the book isn't even about Senator McCarthy!

[PGalt]

"Liberals hate Ann Coulter because she is *BEAUTIFUL* and *INTELLIGENT*."

...AND...

...because she tells the truth about them in no-nonsense, unequivocal terms. She is totally in-your-face. I wish more conservative men at the national level were as tough.

10 posted on 10/19/2003 4:10 PM EDT by WorkingClassFilth

Agree 100% Mr. Filth

[RatSlayer]

"BTW, does the fact that JFK abstained from voting on the censure at all?"

Should have been

BTW, does the fact that JFK abstained from voting on the censure BOTHER YOU at all?

I hate it when my brain gets ahead of my fingers and I skip part of the sentence.

[gcruse]

Saucy Siren Of The Right

Heh.  More like Emaciated Emasculator, IYAM.  ;)

[lady lawyer]

what makes you think she lacks character?

[Semper]

Focusing on a typing error seems somewhat petty. Do you really think I didn't know how to spell "evaluations"?

[jaugust]

McCarthy's peers happen to be POLITICIANS. It seems you lend more credibility to these POLITICIANS than they deserve. They censured McCarthy because, politically, they HAD to.

And has been recently discovered, McCarthy turned out to be right afterall as more and more documents from the former Soviet KGB are being uncovered showing Communist activities taking place in the US post WWII in some of the highest positions in government.

And McCarthy did not INITIATE any of this. ALL of the initial investigations of possible CP activity was done by HUAC.

[Semper]

I'll give you something to research - it may give you an insight to my dislike for Senator McCarthy. Try looking up the term "Tailgunner Joe". That was the title given McCarthy after he claimed to have won the DFC (Distinguished Flying Cross) as an aircraft gunner during WWII. The fact was that he did not come close to winning a FDC - it was a complete fabrication. Someone who lies about combat service is not worth spit and that character flaw caught up to him. McCarthy might have have had the right message but he was really the wrong messenger.

[ladyinred]

------------------------------------------------------------------------ To: Forgiven_Sinner Liberals hate Ann Coulter because she is *BEAUTIFUL* and *INTELLIGENT*.

And because she tells the truth about them! BTW: So does Laura Ingraham in her new book, "Shutup and Sing"

[Semper]

They censured McCarthy because, politically, they HAD to.

How do you reach that conclusion? That particular Senate action had only been taken 3 times in history - not a normal political occurance. What made it a requirement?

See my post #149.

[Fifth Business]

But is every registered Democrat automatically liberal, anti-American, godless, a liar and a “girly boy” — plus guilty of treason?

No. Just a disproportionate number.

[Semper]

"Being right is not enough" is very much demonstrated by McCarthy. He was right about communist infestation in our government but his actions were counter-productive. His motive was self-promotion (a motive close to the heart of Ann Coulter) and the result was condemnation by his peers in the Senate and inaction regarding the problem he exposed.

[FreedomPoster]

My understanding is that McCarthy was an intelligence officer, who, though he didn't have to, volunteered to fly a few missions as tail gunner, and flew on around twelve.

So I guess you've seen his military records to know that he didn't receive the DFC? Or are you assuming that the Leftist Democrat establishment of the day, that was closing ranks against some painful truths that McCarthy was uncovering, was telling the truth about his military record?

[RatSlayer]

Mr Peabody said:

"Rat, I was amused that his link was from an 8th grader's homework assignment. Seriously, /i don't have a dog in this fight. I haven't read Ann's book. I just want to know who was hurt and did they have a communist background. "

I didn't read his link. I'll go back and do that. If he thought there were some pursuasive arguements in the link, I would have hoped he would have quoted them here so that we could deal with them, one by one.

But on to your issue. I think you probably realize that this situation was extremely complex. They were trying to deal with the issues of what constitutes a security threat and how do you go about investigating them.

This goes far beyond the issue of whether someone had a communist background or not. For a modern day example, consider a missle launch operator who fails to turn the launch key during an exercise. He would be considered a security risk these days and would be reassigned at the least and court marshalled at the worst. Would it hurt his career? Yes.

Were they some people innocent people that were hurt. I am sure there were, Although I can't name any. Unfortunately, this is one of the downsides of taking a government job. You have to expect to have your background checked and if anything suspicuous comes up you might get hurt.

The best I can tell, the worst that happened to most of the people that were investigated is that they were reassigned to positions where security was not concerned. This obviously had some impact on their career. But who's to say how much? I think a few people resigned instead, but that's their choice. I think some fought back through the labor boards and were reinstated.

Were they communists? Not to criminal court standards of evidence. Heck, probably not to civil court standards. But, is this even relevant? They weren't being sentenced to jail. They were just being told that you can't work in this job because we think you might do something to harm the USA. Always keep in mind that they were looking for any security risks not just communists.

Unfortunately, it is impossible not to hurt people in this situation. But the error should be on the side of safety for the USA, since the damage to the people involved (at least by the Senate hearings) was minimal.

You should be very careful when you read stories of all the people hurt by McCarthy. The liberals like to play this game where everything that HUAC did is blamed on McCarthy. But, as Ann mentions, HUAC was the HOUSE not the Senate and Joe was a SENATOR.

This has gotten longer than I intended.
So Finally, it can be argued that McCarthy and his staff suffered far worst than any of the people that they investigated.

Let me know if you would like me to explain something further.

[jaugust]

The conclusion is based on the fact that there was a Democratic majority in the Senate and they opposed any efforts to investigate Communist infiltration in high government positions including the State Department.

In her book, Coulter does agree with you that McCarthy was perhaps the wrong messenger with the right message. He was merely doing what his "peers" in the Senate should have been doing but were too cowardly to do so.

As for his alleged military "record" his fight against Communist operatives in the US government is far more important than whether or not he did win the DFC for legitimate reasons. It is a far worse thing that Presidents Roosevelt and Truman and many within the Democratic Party embraced those whose idealogy we were fighting against.

[Joe_October]

There still IS a communist threat in this country. It is very much alive and well despite the eventual demise of communism every time it's been tried.

I agree with you but I wonder why? Communism has been proven over and over again that it doesn't work. Did the traitors who were working to overthrow the US (which we know were here) create a social movement that lives on after their destruction?

There is a certain arrogance in people who think communism/socialism/marxism is great. They all want to run it. That's the funny thing. Each votes to put it in place thinking they will be in charge. They will be the first that get marched to the gulags.

Why people fight for things against their interests is beyond me.