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The Court-Ordered Death of Terri Schiavo
TownHall.com ^ | October 17, 2003 | William Federer

Posted on 10/17/2003 1:02:10 PM PDT by NYer

Even before the rise of Adolph Hitler's Third Reich, the way for the gruesome Nazi holocaust of human extermination and cruel butchery was being prepared in the 1930 German Weimar Republic through the medical establishment and philosophical elite's adoption of the "quality of life" concept in place of the "sanctity of life." The Nuremberg trials, exposing the horrible Nazi war crimes, revealed that Germany's trend toward atrocity began with their progressive embrace of the Hegelian doctrine of "rational utility," where an individual's worth is in relation to their contribution to the state, rather than determined in light of traditional moral, ethical and religious values.

This gradual transformation of national public opinion, promulgated through media and education, was described in an article written by the British commentator Malcolm Muggeridge, entitled "The Humane Holocaust," and in an article written by former United States Surgeon General, C. Everett Koop, M.D., entitled "The Slide to Auschwitz," both published in The Human Life Review, 1977 and 1980 respectively.

Malcolm Muggeridge stated: "Near at hand, we have been accorded, for those that have eyes to see, an object lesson in what the quest for 'quality of life' without reference to 'sanctity of life' can involve....[namely] the great Nazi holocaust, whose TV presentation has lately been harrowing viewers throughout the Western world. In this televised version, an essential consideration has been left out - namely, that the origins of the holocaust lay, not in Nazi terrorism and anti-Semitism, but in pre-Nazi Weimar Germany's acceptance of euthanasia and mercy-killing as humane and estimable.... It took no more than three decades to transform a war crime into an act of compassion, thereby enabling the victors in the war against Nazi-ism to adopt the very practices for which the Nazis had been solemnly condemned at Nuremberg."1

The transformation followed thus: the concept that the elderly and terminally ill should have the right to die was promoted in books, newspapers, literature and even entertainment films, the most popular of which were entitled Ich klage an (I accuse) and Mentally Ill. One euthanasia movie, based on a novel by a National Socialist doctor, actually won a prize at the world-famous Venice Film Festival! Extreme hardship cases were cited which increasingly convinced the public to morally approve of euthanasia. The medical profession gradually grew accustomed to administering death to patients who, for whatever reasons, felt their low "quality of life" rendered their lives not worth living, or as it was put, liebensunwerten Lebens, (life unworthy of life).2

In an Associated Press release, published in the New York Times, October 10, 1933, entitled "Nazi Plan to Kill Incurables to End Pain; German Religious Groups Oppose Move," it was stated: "The Ministry of Justice, in a detailed memorandum explaining the Nazi aims regarding the German penal code, today announced its intentions to authorize physicians to end the sufferings of the incurable patient. The memorandum...proposed that it shall be possible for physicians to end the tortures of incurable patients, upon request, in the interest of true humanity. This proposed legal recognition of euthanasia - the act of providing a painless and peaceful death - raised a number of fundamental problems of a religious, scientific, and legal nature. The Catholic newspaper Germania hastened to observe: 'The Catholic faith binds the conscience of its followers not to accept this method'...In Lutheran circles, too, life is regarded as something that God alone can take.... Euthanasia... has become a widely discussed word in the Reich.... No life still valuable to the State will be wantonly destroyed."3

Nationalized health care and government involvement in medical care promised to improve the public's "quality of life."4 Unfortunately, the cost of maintaining government medical care was a contributing factor to the growth of the national debt, which reached astronomical proportions. Double and triple digit inflation crippled the economy, resulting in the public demanding that government cut expenses.5

This precipitated the 1939 order to cut federal expenses. The national socialist government decided do remove "useless" expenses from the budget, which included the support and medical costs required to maintain the lives of the retarded, insane, senile, epileptic, psychiatric patients, handicapped, deaf, blind, the non-rehabilitable ill, and those who had been diseased or chronically ill for five years or more. It was labeled an "act of mercy" to "liberate them through death," as they were viewed as having an extremely low "quality of life," as well as being a tax burden on the public.

The public psyche was conditioned for this, as even school math problems compared distorted medical costs incurred by the taxpayer of caring for and rehabilitating the chronically sick, with the cost of loans to newly married couples for new housing units.6

The next whose lives were terminated by the state were the elderly in institutions who had no relatives and no financial resources. These lonely, forsaken individuals were needed by no one and would be missed by no one. Their "quality of life" was considered low by everyone's standards, and they were a tremendous tax burden on the economically distressed state.7

The next to be eliminated were the parasites on the state: the street people, bums, beggars, hopelessly poor, gypsies, prisoners, inmates and convicts. These were socially disturbing individuals incapable of providing for themselves, whose "quality of life" was considered by the public as irreversibly below standard, in addition to the fact that they were a nuisance to society and a seed-bed for crime.8

The liquidation grew to include those who had been unable to work, the socially unproductive, and those living on welfare or government pensions. They drew financial support from the state, but contributed nothing financially back. They were looked upon as "useless eaters," leeches, stealing from those who worked hard to pay the taxes to support them. Their unproductive lives were a burden on the "quality of life" of those who had to pay the taxes.9

The next to be eradicated were the ideologically unwanted, the political enemies of the state, religious extremists, and those "disloyal" individuals considered to be holding the government back from producing a society which would function well and provide everyone a better "quality of life." The moving biography of the imprisoned Dietrich Bonhoffer chronicled the injustices. These individuals also were a source of "human experimental material," allowing military medical research to be carried on with human tissue, thus providing valuable information which promised to improve the nation's health .10

Finally, justifying their actions on the purported theory of evolution, the Nazi's considered the German, or "Aryan," race as "ubermenschen," supermen, being more advanced in the supposed progress of human evolution. This resulted in the twisted conclusion that all other races, and in particular the Jewish race, were less evolved, and needed to be eliminated from the so-called "human gene pool," ensuring that future generations of humans would have a higher "quality of life."11

C. Everett Koop, M.D., stated: "The first step is followed by the second step. You can say that if the first step is moral then whatever follows must be moral. The important thing, however, is this: whether you diagnose the first step as being one worth taking or being one that is precarious rests entirely on what the second step is likely to be.... I am concerned about this because when the first 273,000 German aged, infirm, and retarded were killed in gas chambers there was no outcry from that medical profession either, and it was not far from there to Auschwitz."12

Can this holocaust happen in America? Indeed, it has already begun. The idea of killing a person and calling it "death with dignity" is an oxymoron. The "mercy-killing" movement puts us on the same path as pre-Nazi Germany. The "quality of life" concept, which eventually results in the Hegelian utilitarian attitude of a person's worth being based on their contribution toward perpetuating big government, is in stark contrast to America's founding principles.

This philosophy which lowers the value of human life, shocked attendees at the Governor's Commission on Disability, in Concord, New Hampshire, October 5, 2001, as they heard the absurd comments of Princeton University professor Peter Singer. The Associated Press reported Singer's comments: "I do think that it is sometimes appropriate to kill a human infant," he said, adding that he does not believe a newborn has a right to life until it reaches some minimum level of consciousness. "For me, the relevant question is, what makes it so seriously wrong to take a life?" Singer asked. "Those of you who are not vegetarians are responsible for taking a life every time you eat. Species is no more relevant than race in making these judgments."13

Singer's views, if left unchecked, could easily lead to a repeat of the atrocities of Nazi Germany, if not something worse. Add to that unbridled advances in the technology of cloning, DNA test which reveal physical defects, human embryos killed for the purpose of gathering stem cells to treat Diseases...and a haunting future unfolds before us. President Theodore Roosevelt's warning in 1909 seems appropriate:

"Progress has brought us both unbounded opportunities and unbridled difficulties. Thus, the measure of our civilization will not be that we have done much, but what we have done with that much. I believe that the next half century will determine if we will advance the cause of Christian civilization or revert to the horrors of brutal paganism. The thought of modern industry in the hands of Christian charity is a dream worth dreaming. The thought of industry in the hands of paganism is a nightmare beyond imagining. The choice between the two is upon us."14

In his State of the Union address in 1905, President Theodore Roosevelt stated:

"There are those who believe that a new modernity demands a new morality. What they fail to consider is the harsh reality that there is no such thing as a new morality. There is only one morality. All else is immorality. There is only true Christian ethics over against which stands the whole of paganism. If we are to fulfill our great destiny as a people, then we must return to the old morality, the sole morality.... All these blatant sham reformers, in the name of a new morality, preach the old vice of self-indulgence which rotted out first the moral fiber and then even the external greatness of Greece and Rome."15

In biblical comparison, Jesus showed mercy by healing the sick and giving sanity back to the deranged, but never did he kill them. This attitude is exemplified today by Mother Teresa of Calcutta, whose version of "death with dignity" is to gather the dying from off the street, and show compassion to these rejected and abandoned members of the human race, all the while knowing that they may only survive for another half hour. Her "mercy-living" movement goes to great trouble to house, wash and feed even the most hopeless and derelict, because of inherent respect for the "sanctity of life" of each individual. This attitude is summed up in her statement: "I see Jesus in every human being. I say to myself, this is hungry Jesus, I must feed him. This is sick Jesus. This one has leprosy or gangrene; I must wash him and tend to him. I serve because I love Jesus."16

Will America chose the "sanctity of life" concept, as demonstrated by Mother Teresa, or will America chose the "quality of life" concept, championed by self-proclaimed doctors of death court decisions - such as in the case of Terri Schiavo - and continue its slide toward Auschwitz? What kind of subtle anesthetic has been allowed to deaden our national conscience? What horrors await us? The question is not whether the suffering and dying person's life should be terminated, the question is what kind of nation will we become if they are? Their physical death is preceded only by our moral death!

1 Malcolm Muggeridge, "The Humane Holocaust," The Human Life Review, Winter, 1980. Ronald Reagan, Abortion & The Conscience of the Nation (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers, Inc. 1984; The Human Life Foundation, Inc.), pp. 85 - 87.

2 C. Everett Koop, M.D., "The Slide to Auschwitz," The Human Life Review, Spring, 1977; quoting from Leo Alexander, "Medical Science Under Dictatorship," New England Journal of Medicine, July 4, 1949, 241:39 - 47. (C. Everett Koop, M.D., originally delivered as an address to The American Academy of Pediatrics, on the occasion of his receiving the William E. Ladd Medal, the highest honor given to pediatric surgeons in America.) Ronald Reagan, Abortion and The Conscience of the Nation (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers, Inc. 1984; The Human Life Foundation, Inc.), pp. 61 - 63. Die Freigabe der Vernichtung liebensunwerten Lebens (Permission to Destroy Life Unworthy of Life) 1920. Adolf Jost, Das Recht auf den Tod (The Right to Death) 1895. Robert Jay Lifton, The Nazi Doctors (N Y: Basic Books, 1986), p. 27.

3 New York Times, October 10, 1933, Associated Press release, "Nazi Plan to Kill Incurables to End Pain; German Religious Groups Oppose Move." Noah H. Hutchings, "Nazi Euthanasia" (Oklahoma City, OK: Bible in the News, published by the Southwest Radio Church, P.O. Box 1144, Oklahoma City, OK 73101, October 1996), Vol. 1996, No. 10, p. 16.

4 Koop, p. 70.

5 Ibid., pp. 61, 70. Muggeridge, p. 90. The World Book Encyclopedia 19 vols. (Chicago, IL: Field Enterprises, Inc., 1957), vol. 7, p. 2975.

6 Koop, pp. 61 - 63; Muggeridge, pp. 86 - 89.

7 Ibid,

8 Ibid, 9 Ibid, 10 Ibid, 11 Ibid,

12 Koop, pp. 67 - 70.

13 Peter Singer. October 5, 2001, comments at the Governor's Commission on Disability, Concord, New Hampshire. Harry R. Weber, Associated Press, Boston Globe,10/5/2001 17:46 "Singer gets respectful reception." http://www.boston.com/dailynews.

14 Roosevelt, Theodore. 1909. Noah Brooks, Men of Achievement - Statesmen (NY: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1904), p. 317. George Grant, Third Time Around (Brentwood, TN: Wolgemuth & Hyatt, Inc., 1991), p. 118. George Grant, The Quick and the Dead (Wheaton, IL: Crossway, 1981), p. 134. John Eidsmoe, Columbus & Cortez, Conquerors for Christ (Green Forest, AR: New Leaf Press, 1992), pp. 296-297.

15 Roosevelt, Theodore. 1905, in his State of the Union address. David, L. Johnson, Theodore Roosevelt: American Monarch (Philadelphia: American History Sources, 1981), p. 44. George Grant, Third Time Around (Brentwood, TN: Wolgemuth & Hyatt, Inc., 1991) pp. 118-119.

16 Mother Teresa of Calcutta. Statement. Bless Your Heart (series II) (Eden Prairie, MN: Heartland Sampler, Inc., 1990), 10.15. Muggeridge, pp. 91 - 92.

Other sources include: Fr. Virgil C. Blum, S.J. & Charles J. Sykes, "The Lesson of Euthanasia," The Human Life Review, Spring, 1976. A.J. Dyck, "The Value of Life: Two Contending Policies," Harvard Magazine, Jan., 1970, pp. 30 - 36. Henry Friedlander, The Origins of Nazi Genocide: From Euthanasia to the Final Solution (N.C.: University of North Carolina Press, 1995). Robert Jay Lifton, The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing & the Psychology of Genocide (Basic Books, 1986). William Brennan, Medical Holocausts: Exterminative Medicine in Nazi Germany and Contemporary America (Norland, 1980). William Brennan, Dehumanizing the Vulnerable: When Word Games Take Lives (Chicago, IL: Loyala University Press, 1995; 3441 N. Ashland Ave. Chicago, IL. 60657). Eleanor Schlafly and John D. Boland, "Word Warfare: Giving Evil a Tolerable Name" (Mindszenty Report, Cardinal Mindszenty Foundation, P.O. Box 11321, St. Louis, Mo. 63105), Apr. 1996, Vol. 38, No. 4. "Protection of Life" series, Sanctity of Life or Quality of Life, Law Reform Commission of Canada. Francis Schaeffer and C. Everett Koop, M.D., What Ever Happened to the Human Race? (1979).

William J. Federer is a nationally known speaker, best-selling author, and president of Amerisearch, Inc., a publishing company dedicated to research America's noble heritage. His AMERICAN MINUTE radio feature is aired across the country recalling events of American significance on the date they occurred.  The American Minute is </EM


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To: MHGinTN
If I thought you actually wanted to answer my question, I'd be happy to hear from you. However, I'm sensing that you have no answer to the question: What effective thing can Jeb Bush do to save Terri Schiavo?
121 posted on 10/17/2003 5:40:36 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou
Please name just one effective thing Bush can do

Send someone to remove Terri from the hospice.

122 posted on 10/17/2003 5:44:40 PM PDT by syriacus (Judge Greer---YOU should have looked into Terri's eyes and asked her if she wanted life.)
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To: Schwaeky
Psalm 103..............this is the eve "Crowning Feast"....unto "Simhat Torah"......rejoicing?
123 posted on 10/17/2003 5:46:29 PM PDT by maestro
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To: syriacus
he can order the FL national guard to remove her from the hospice care facility (owned by euthanasia lobbyist/lawyer for mr. schiavo, george felos) put her on a state owned jet with necessary medical care, send her up to DC to Bethesda Naval hospital (i'm sure he can pull strings after all, his brother is the President!!!) where she can recieve the necessary preservative care and ultimately rehabilatative care..

and to borrow a phrase from a different subject i once posted on, when rule of law flies in the face of human decency and morality, then rule of law should fly a kite...
124 posted on 10/17/2003 5:49:07 PM PDT by Schwaeky
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To: Schwaeky
I agree with you.

If you haven't, you need to familiarize yourself with the case.

The motr you learn, the more repugnant it gets.
125 posted on 10/17/2003 5:51:00 PM PDT by sport
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To: Schwaeky
back it up with force of executive action,
Let me make sure I understand what you're saying: You are saying that an elected public official should order someone under his authority to break the laws of the state of Florida, a state whose laws he has sworn to uphold? (He opens himself to kidnapping and numerous other charges.)

Is this a reasonable restatement of what you've posted?

126 posted on 10/17/2003 5:51:09 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou
First I'll give you the foundation of why he ought to do, then I'll outline the can do, okay?

Judge Greer has appointed Michael Schiavo as Terri's guardian, firing a state appointed guardian in the process, a guardian who file with the court that Michael was not meeting his lawsuit obligations to pay for rehabilitation therapy for his wife, a guardian who protested that Michael Schiavo should not be appointed guardian since he had major conflicts of interest. Judge Greer appointed Michael as legal guardian but has not held the guardian to the minimum reporting standards of a legal guardian. Also, Michael has been defrauding Terri for seven plus years, cohabiting with another woman and fathering children with this other woman while still married to Terri (adultery). Michael has a major life insurance policy he stands to collect upon if Terri dies while he is married to her. Michael has refused to provide even minimal therapy for Terri while he's been her guardian, refusing even antibiotics when she had a life threatening infection. Sworn affidavits indicate that Michael may have actually tried to terminate Terri himself with one or more occasioned injections of insulin, circumstances of which are in affidavits from a nurse who treated Terri on an emergency basis upopn Michael leaving Terri's room! There is more, but you probably get the picture by now.

As governor of the state, Jeb Bush can act to stop the irreversible outcome of a failed judicial oversight, while he/his state's atty gen files the investigation papers for Greer's malfeasance and Michael Schiavo's abuse and neglect of Terri's needs. Jeb can march several uniformed State Troopers into that hospital and take Terri out or order the feeding tube be re-inserted. He can base immediate action upon the assertions found in his amicus brief filed with Judge Lazzara's court even though Lazzar refused to hear the case.

127 posted on 10/17/2003 5:51:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Clara Lou
Just so we're clear on your perspective, just what law would Jeb Bush be breaking, as per your post #126? If he acts according to his authority as chief law enforcement officer of the state of Florida, he is not breaking any law by forcing a timeout while investigation of possible criminal acts are instituted.
128 posted on 10/17/2003 5:54:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
As governor of the state, Jeb Bush can act to stop the irreversible outcome of a failed judicial oversight, while he/his state's atty gen files the investigation papers for Greer's malfeasance and Michael Schiavo's abuse and neglect of Terri's needs. Jeb can march several uniformed State Troopers into that hospital and take Terri out or order the feeding tube be re-inserted. He can base immediate action upon the assertions found in his amicus brief filed with Judge Lazzara's court even though Lazzar refused to hear the case.
If he can do these things in his legal capacity as governor, then I'm all for it.
129 posted on 10/17/2003 5:55:25 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou
No licensed Hospice will let a person suffer this way. This is propaganda.

Some people do not suffer, because their bodies no longer handle nutriments well. Terri's body was not shutting down. She will feel hungry.

Is this propaganda?

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  ADVISORY BOARD Janet Ajzenstat, BA, MA, PhD Dept. of Political Science, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

Dr. Shahid Athar, MD Clinical Associate Professor of Medicine & Endocrinology, Indiana School of Medicine, Indianapolis, Indiana, USA

J. Budziszewski, PhD Professor, Departments of Government & Philosophy, University of Texas, Austin, Texas, USA

Dr. John Fleming, BA, ThL (Hons), PhD Director, Southern Cross Bioethics Institute, Adelaide, Australia

Dr. Henk Jochemsen, PhD Director, Lindeboom Institute, Center for Medical Ethics, Amsterdam, Netherlands

David Novak, AB, MHL, PhD Chair of Jewish Studies, University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Lynn D. Wardle, JD Professor of Law, J. Reuben Clark Law School, Brigham Young University, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA

____________

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    5 June, 2003 1155 PM PST For Immediate Release

Court Puts Health Care Workers on the Spot

A recent decision by the Supreme Court of Victoria makes it lawful to cause the death of patients by starvation and dehydration. The court has classified nutrition and hydration not as care, but as 'treatment' that can by refused by a patient or proxy. Australian health care workers who find this morally repugnant may now find themselves in a difficult position. "There are strong ethical traditions that identify nutrition and hydration as basic care that is owed to any human being," explained Sean Murphy, Administrator of the Protection of Conscience Project. "Those who work within these traditions would no more deprive patients of food and water than take their beds and blankets." The decision in Melbourne involved a 68 year old woman suffering from a fatal form of dementia known as Pick's Disease, and has spent the past three years in a vegetative state.

Author Wesley J. Smith cites the case of Marjorie Nighbert, not terminally ill, who was admitted to a Florida nursing home following a stroke. Her feeding tube was removed on instructions from her brother. As she began to feel the effects of dehydration and hunger she begged, "Please feed me . . . I’m hungry, I’m thirsty." Nursing staff secretly slipped her small amounts of food and water. The case was eventually reviewed by a judge, who ordered the process continued. She died in April, 1995.

"Even if this is considered acceptable public policy," said Murphy, "dissenting health care workers and institutions should not be forced to participate in what they may consider to be judicially authorized euthanasia."

130 posted on 10/17/2003 5:57:56 PM PDT by syriacus (Judge Greer---YOU should have looked into Terri's eyes and asked her if she wanted life.)
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To: MHGinTN
Just so we're clear on your perspective, just what law would Jeb Bush be breaking, as per your post #126?
My only perspective is that even the chief executive has to abide by the law. If he has the legal authority to do as you say, then he should do so. I think Terri's husband is a louse and I dearly hope that he suffers in this life and the next for what he has done.
131 posted on 10/17/2003 5:59:10 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou
Thank you for your patience in reading through my wordy explanation.
132 posted on 10/17/2003 6:01:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Clara Lou
but the problem is, the law is not working. When the law of man is just not working, it has to be set aside because the law of GOD almighty trumps all of it completely, and when the law of man contravenes the law of God, the law of man is null and void. Okay maybe I'm getting a little theological here, but time is of the essence if Terri is going to be saved. If the law doesn't work then civil disobedience is in order. But this is not state law that is being disobeyed here this is a court decision. Our nation has a vivid history of executives ignoring court decisions, for various reasons, many granted, by our standards today, to be bad choices, but a history nevertheless. And as for the nature of action, executive action would be upheld before a court could scarcely tremble in response (I seriously doubt in this grave a case, any decent FL nationalguardsmen or FHP state trooper would disobey an order from their commander-in-chief* to save this woman's life)

*under FL constitution, the Governor is Commander-in-chief of all law enforcement personnel and national guard members....

as for the florida courts, i have a very strong distaste for the courts that tried to steal George W. Bush's election away from him, so to disobey them would be to do the work of God.......
133 posted on 10/17/2003 6:02:17 PM PDT by Schwaeky
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To: Clara Lou
Was you mother being given any medication?
134 posted on 10/17/2003 6:04:29 PM PDT by syriacus (Judge Greer---YOU should have looked into Terri's eyes and asked her if she wanted life.)
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To: syriacus
I can't answer for what happens in Australia, but I do know about Texas. That description is not correct. While I believe that Terri Schiavo should receive therapy and continue to live, and I believe that her husband should be the last person to have any legal say over her medical care [How about bigamy charges or something for having a common-law wife?], I'm simply saying that glycerine and various drugs, with regular ministrations, ease the passing so that it's nothing like that description.
135 posted on 10/17/2003 6:07:19 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: syriacus
Indeed she was.
136 posted on 10/17/2003 6:07:55 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Schwaeky
Civil disobedience-- I understand that sometimes it's the last resort. My question is this: Do we want our elected officials engaging in it? Do we we want our elected officials to set a precedent like that? I'm probably not expressing my idea as clearly as I'd like-- but that's a slippery slope that I'm leery of.
137 posted on 10/17/2003 6:15:21 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Salvation
bump!
138 posted on 10/17/2003 6:15:22 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Clara Lou
I wondered the same thing about the bigamy charges on another thread. I also asked if adultry was illegal in the stae of Florida. Somewhere there is an answer. I just believe this. God, I hope that it is uncovered before it is too late.
139 posted on 10/17/2003 6:19:52 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Clara Lou
sometimes civil disobedience is necessary to preserve the tree of liberty.... the tree of liberty must frequently be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants... the right to life is the ultimate right of liberty--the right of one to conciously self-actualize what they wish for themselves, not be subject to a fate forced upon them by a plutocracy (rule of judges)... the plutocracy has become the new tyranny in this case...
140 posted on 10/17/2003 6:23:53 PM PDT by Schwaeky
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