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The Court-Ordered Death of Terri Schiavo
TownHall.com ^ | October 17, 2003 | William Federer

Posted on 10/17/2003 1:02:10 PM PDT by NYer

Even before the rise of Adolph Hitler's Third Reich, the way for the gruesome Nazi holocaust of human extermination and cruel butchery was being prepared in the 1930 German Weimar Republic through the medical establishment and philosophical elite's adoption of the "quality of life" concept in place of the "sanctity of life." The Nuremberg trials, exposing the horrible Nazi war crimes, revealed that Germany's trend toward atrocity began with their progressive embrace of the Hegelian doctrine of "rational utility," where an individual's worth is in relation to their contribution to the state, rather than determined in light of traditional moral, ethical and religious values.

This gradual transformation of national public opinion, promulgated through media and education, was described in an article written by the British commentator Malcolm Muggeridge, entitled "The Humane Holocaust," and in an article written by former United States Surgeon General, C. Everett Koop, M.D., entitled "The Slide to Auschwitz," both published in The Human Life Review, 1977 and 1980 respectively.

Malcolm Muggeridge stated: "Near at hand, we have been accorded, for those that have eyes to see, an object lesson in what the quest for 'quality of life' without reference to 'sanctity of life' can involve....[namely] the great Nazi holocaust, whose TV presentation has lately been harrowing viewers throughout the Western world. In this televised version, an essential consideration has been left out - namely, that the origins of the holocaust lay, not in Nazi terrorism and anti-Semitism, but in pre-Nazi Weimar Germany's acceptance of euthanasia and mercy-killing as humane and estimable.... It took no more than three decades to transform a war crime into an act of compassion, thereby enabling the victors in the war against Nazi-ism to adopt the very practices for which the Nazis had been solemnly condemned at Nuremberg."1

The transformation followed thus: the concept that the elderly and terminally ill should have the right to die was promoted in books, newspapers, literature and even entertainment films, the most popular of which were entitled Ich klage an (I accuse) and Mentally Ill. One euthanasia movie, based on a novel by a National Socialist doctor, actually won a prize at the world-famous Venice Film Festival! Extreme hardship cases were cited which increasingly convinced the public to morally approve of euthanasia. The medical profession gradually grew accustomed to administering death to patients who, for whatever reasons, felt their low "quality of life" rendered their lives not worth living, or as it was put, liebensunwerten Lebens, (life unworthy of life).2

In an Associated Press release, published in the New York Times, October 10, 1933, entitled "Nazi Plan to Kill Incurables to End Pain; German Religious Groups Oppose Move," it was stated: "The Ministry of Justice, in a detailed memorandum explaining the Nazi aims regarding the German penal code, today announced its intentions to authorize physicians to end the sufferings of the incurable patient. The memorandum...proposed that it shall be possible for physicians to end the tortures of incurable patients, upon request, in the interest of true humanity. This proposed legal recognition of euthanasia - the act of providing a painless and peaceful death - raised a number of fundamental problems of a religious, scientific, and legal nature. The Catholic newspaper Germania hastened to observe: 'The Catholic faith binds the conscience of its followers not to accept this method'...In Lutheran circles, too, life is regarded as something that God alone can take.... Euthanasia... has become a widely discussed word in the Reich.... No life still valuable to the State will be wantonly destroyed."3

Nationalized health care and government involvement in medical care promised to improve the public's "quality of life."4 Unfortunately, the cost of maintaining government medical care was a contributing factor to the growth of the national debt, which reached astronomical proportions. Double and triple digit inflation crippled the economy, resulting in the public demanding that government cut expenses.5

This precipitated the 1939 order to cut federal expenses. The national socialist government decided do remove "useless" expenses from the budget, which included the support and medical costs required to maintain the lives of the retarded, insane, senile, epileptic, psychiatric patients, handicapped, deaf, blind, the non-rehabilitable ill, and those who had been diseased or chronically ill for five years or more. It was labeled an "act of mercy" to "liberate them through death," as they were viewed as having an extremely low "quality of life," as well as being a tax burden on the public.

The public psyche was conditioned for this, as even school math problems compared distorted medical costs incurred by the taxpayer of caring for and rehabilitating the chronically sick, with the cost of loans to newly married couples for new housing units.6

The next whose lives were terminated by the state were the elderly in institutions who had no relatives and no financial resources. These lonely, forsaken individuals were needed by no one and would be missed by no one. Their "quality of life" was considered low by everyone's standards, and they were a tremendous tax burden on the economically distressed state.7

The next to be eliminated were the parasites on the state: the street people, bums, beggars, hopelessly poor, gypsies, prisoners, inmates and convicts. These were socially disturbing individuals incapable of providing for themselves, whose "quality of life" was considered by the public as irreversibly below standard, in addition to the fact that they were a nuisance to society and a seed-bed for crime.8

The liquidation grew to include those who had been unable to work, the socially unproductive, and those living on welfare or government pensions. They drew financial support from the state, but contributed nothing financially back. They were looked upon as "useless eaters," leeches, stealing from those who worked hard to pay the taxes to support them. Their unproductive lives were a burden on the "quality of life" of those who had to pay the taxes.9

The next to be eradicated were the ideologically unwanted, the political enemies of the state, religious extremists, and those "disloyal" individuals considered to be holding the government back from producing a society which would function well and provide everyone a better "quality of life." The moving biography of the imprisoned Dietrich Bonhoffer chronicled the injustices. These individuals also were a source of "human experimental material," allowing military medical research to be carried on with human tissue, thus providing valuable information which promised to improve the nation's health .10

Finally, justifying their actions on the purported theory of evolution, the Nazi's considered the German, or "Aryan," race as "ubermenschen," supermen, being more advanced in the supposed progress of human evolution. This resulted in the twisted conclusion that all other races, and in particular the Jewish race, were less evolved, and needed to be eliminated from the so-called "human gene pool," ensuring that future generations of humans would have a higher "quality of life."11

C. Everett Koop, M.D., stated: "The first step is followed by the second step. You can say that if the first step is moral then whatever follows must be moral. The important thing, however, is this: whether you diagnose the first step as being one worth taking or being one that is precarious rests entirely on what the second step is likely to be.... I am concerned about this because when the first 273,000 German aged, infirm, and retarded were killed in gas chambers there was no outcry from that medical profession either, and it was not far from there to Auschwitz."12

Can this holocaust happen in America? Indeed, it has already begun. The idea of killing a person and calling it "death with dignity" is an oxymoron. The "mercy-killing" movement puts us on the same path as pre-Nazi Germany. The "quality of life" concept, which eventually results in the Hegelian utilitarian attitude of a person's worth being based on their contribution toward perpetuating big government, is in stark contrast to America's founding principles.

This philosophy which lowers the value of human life, shocked attendees at the Governor's Commission on Disability, in Concord, New Hampshire, October 5, 2001, as they heard the absurd comments of Princeton University professor Peter Singer. The Associated Press reported Singer's comments: "I do think that it is sometimes appropriate to kill a human infant," he said, adding that he does not believe a newborn has a right to life until it reaches some minimum level of consciousness. "For me, the relevant question is, what makes it so seriously wrong to take a life?" Singer asked. "Those of you who are not vegetarians are responsible for taking a life every time you eat. Species is no more relevant than race in making these judgments."13

Singer's views, if left unchecked, could easily lead to a repeat of the atrocities of Nazi Germany, if not something worse. Add to that unbridled advances in the technology of cloning, DNA test which reveal physical defects, human embryos killed for the purpose of gathering stem cells to treat Diseases...and a haunting future unfolds before us. President Theodore Roosevelt's warning in 1909 seems appropriate:

"Progress has brought us both unbounded opportunities and unbridled difficulties. Thus, the measure of our civilization will not be that we have done much, but what we have done with that much. I believe that the next half century will determine if we will advance the cause of Christian civilization or revert to the horrors of brutal paganism. The thought of modern industry in the hands of Christian charity is a dream worth dreaming. The thought of industry in the hands of paganism is a nightmare beyond imagining. The choice between the two is upon us."14

In his State of the Union address in 1905, President Theodore Roosevelt stated:

"There are those who believe that a new modernity demands a new morality. What they fail to consider is the harsh reality that there is no such thing as a new morality. There is only one morality. All else is immorality. There is only true Christian ethics over against which stands the whole of paganism. If we are to fulfill our great destiny as a people, then we must return to the old morality, the sole morality.... All these blatant sham reformers, in the name of a new morality, preach the old vice of self-indulgence which rotted out first the moral fiber and then even the external greatness of Greece and Rome."15

In biblical comparison, Jesus showed mercy by healing the sick and giving sanity back to the deranged, but never did he kill them. This attitude is exemplified today by Mother Teresa of Calcutta, whose version of "death with dignity" is to gather the dying from off the street, and show compassion to these rejected and abandoned members of the human race, all the while knowing that they may only survive for another half hour. Her "mercy-living" movement goes to great trouble to house, wash and feed even the most hopeless and derelict, because of inherent respect for the "sanctity of life" of each individual. This attitude is summed up in her statement: "I see Jesus in every human being. I say to myself, this is hungry Jesus, I must feed him. This is sick Jesus. This one has leprosy or gangrene; I must wash him and tend to him. I serve because I love Jesus."16

Will America chose the "sanctity of life" concept, as demonstrated by Mother Teresa, or will America chose the "quality of life" concept, championed by self-proclaimed doctors of death court decisions - such as in the case of Terri Schiavo - and continue its slide toward Auschwitz? What kind of subtle anesthetic has been allowed to deaden our national conscience? What horrors await us? The question is not whether the suffering and dying person's life should be terminated, the question is what kind of nation will we become if they are? Their physical death is preceded only by our moral death!

1 Malcolm Muggeridge, "The Humane Holocaust," The Human Life Review, Winter, 1980. Ronald Reagan, Abortion & The Conscience of the Nation (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers, Inc. 1984; The Human Life Foundation, Inc.), pp. 85 - 87.

2 C. Everett Koop, M.D., "The Slide to Auschwitz," The Human Life Review, Spring, 1977; quoting from Leo Alexander, "Medical Science Under Dictatorship," New England Journal of Medicine, July 4, 1949, 241:39 - 47. (C. Everett Koop, M.D., originally delivered as an address to The American Academy of Pediatrics, on the occasion of his receiving the William E. Ladd Medal, the highest honor given to pediatric surgeons in America.) Ronald Reagan, Abortion and The Conscience of the Nation (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers, Inc. 1984; The Human Life Foundation, Inc.), pp. 61 - 63. Die Freigabe der Vernichtung liebensunwerten Lebens (Permission to Destroy Life Unworthy of Life) 1920. Adolf Jost, Das Recht auf den Tod (The Right to Death) 1895. Robert Jay Lifton, The Nazi Doctors (N Y: Basic Books, 1986), p. 27.

3 New York Times, October 10, 1933, Associated Press release, "Nazi Plan to Kill Incurables to End Pain; German Religious Groups Oppose Move." Noah H. Hutchings, "Nazi Euthanasia" (Oklahoma City, OK: Bible in the News, published by the Southwest Radio Church, P.O. Box 1144, Oklahoma City, OK 73101, October 1996), Vol. 1996, No. 10, p. 16.

4 Koop, p. 70.

5 Ibid., pp. 61, 70. Muggeridge, p. 90. The World Book Encyclopedia 19 vols. (Chicago, IL: Field Enterprises, Inc., 1957), vol. 7, p. 2975.

6 Koop, pp. 61 - 63; Muggeridge, pp. 86 - 89.

7 Ibid,

8 Ibid, 9 Ibid, 10 Ibid, 11 Ibid,

12 Koop, pp. 67 - 70.

13 Peter Singer. October 5, 2001, comments at the Governor's Commission on Disability, Concord, New Hampshire. Harry R. Weber, Associated Press, Boston Globe,10/5/2001 17:46 "Singer gets respectful reception." http://www.boston.com/dailynews.

14 Roosevelt, Theodore. 1909. Noah Brooks, Men of Achievement - Statesmen (NY: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1904), p. 317. George Grant, Third Time Around (Brentwood, TN: Wolgemuth & Hyatt, Inc., 1991), p. 118. George Grant, The Quick and the Dead (Wheaton, IL: Crossway, 1981), p. 134. John Eidsmoe, Columbus & Cortez, Conquerors for Christ (Green Forest, AR: New Leaf Press, 1992), pp. 296-297.

15 Roosevelt, Theodore. 1905, in his State of the Union address. David, L. Johnson, Theodore Roosevelt: American Monarch (Philadelphia: American History Sources, 1981), p. 44. George Grant, Third Time Around (Brentwood, TN: Wolgemuth & Hyatt, Inc., 1991) pp. 118-119.

16 Mother Teresa of Calcutta. Statement. Bless Your Heart (series II) (Eden Prairie, MN: Heartland Sampler, Inc., 1990), 10.15. Muggeridge, pp. 91 - 92.

Other sources include: Fr. Virgil C. Blum, S.J. & Charles J. Sykes, "The Lesson of Euthanasia," The Human Life Review, Spring, 1976. A.J. Dyck, "The Value of Life: Two Contending Policies," Harvard Magazine, Jan., 1970, pp. 30 - 36. Henry Friedlander, The Origins of Nazi Genocide: From Euthanasia to the Final Solution (N.C.: University of North Carolina Press, 1995). Robert Jay Lifton, The Nazi Doctors: Medical Killing & the Psychology of Genocide (Basic Books, 1986). William Brennan, Medical Holocausts: Exterminative Medicine in Nazi Germany and Contemporary America (Norland, 1980). William Brennan, Dehumanizing the Vulnerable: When Word Games Take Lives (Chicago, IL: Loyala University Press, 1995; 3441 N. Ashland Ave. Chicago, IL. 60657). Eleanor Schlafly and John D. Boland, "Word Warfare: Giving Evil a Tolerable Name" (Mindszenty Report, Cardinal Mindszenty Foundation, P.O. Box 11321, St. Louis, Mo. 63105), Apr. 1996, Vol. 38, No. 4. "Protection of Life" series, Sanctity of Life or Quality of Life, Law Reform Commission of Canada. Francis Schaeffer and C. Everett Koop, M.D., What Ever Happened to the Human Race? (1979).

William J. Federer is a nationally known speaker, best-selling author, and president of Amerisearch, Inc., a publishing company dedicated to research America's noble heritage. His AMERICAN MINUTE radio feature is aired across the country recalling events of American significance on the date they occurred.  The American Minute is </EM


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To: AbsoluteJustice; MarMema
Now analyze that and you tell me if most in here are not being hypocritical because I GUARUNTEE you this there is VERY FEW if NONE on this site that would allow the above to continue if they were in the same predicament.

" An essential feature of support for the inalienable right to life, from conception to natural death, is the effort to provide legal protection for the unborn, the handicapped, the elderly, and those suffering from terminal illness. What is at stake here is nothing less than the indivisible truth about the human person on which the Founding Fathers staked your nation's claim to independence. The life of a country is much more than its material development and its power in the world. A nation needs a "soul"."
John Paul II - October 2, 1998
Ad limina address of the Holy Father to US Bishops of California, Nevada and Hawaii

Terri was hooked to one feeding tube. Her husband denied her any recourse to all therapy that would have benefited her - from day one. He has given no documented proof to support his allegation that "she wanted this". He has surrounded himself with the a team of professionals with a consistent track record in support of eliminating life for those who are disabled.

Terri's family are all catholic. They believe in the sanctity of life, "from conception til death from natural causes". Death by starvation and dehydration is cruel and inhumane. Guards are posted at Terri's room to prevent her parents from giving her food or water. Terri, although disabled, is not in a coma. She is not in a vegetative state. She laughs, and cries, she says yes and no. Terri Schindler-Schiavo does not want to die. She would like to go home. And she tried to convey this to her father in no uncertain terms by sitting bolt upright and trying to get out of her chair when told she might be killed.

Easy for you to cast judgement, sitting in your easy chair. Perhaps, like her husband, you are wondering "When will the bitch die?". He's sitting on a $750,000 settlement, of which he has spared not one dime, to help his wife. Instead, he has set up house with another woman, fathered one child and is expecting another.

Here is what Terri Schiavo is now facing, alone in a room in a Florida hospice.

"A conscious person would feel it (dehydration) just as you and I would. They will go into seizures. Their skin cracks, their tongue cracks, their lips crack. They may have nosebleeds because of the drying of the mucous membranes, and heaving and vomiting might ensue because of the drying out of the stomach lining. They feel the pangs of hunger and thirst. Imagine going one day without a glass of water. Death by dehydration takes ten to fourteen days. It is an extremely agonizing death."

Yes, you would choose THIS death over life with a feeding tube. I pray it never happens to you or a member of your family.

101 posted on 10/17/2003 3:58:27 PM PDT by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: isrul
What is needed is an inspired act of God, whether through the hands and authority of Gov. Bush, or something to befall the would-be architect of this seemingly iminent tragedy. The latter I cannot morally endorse, despite being enflamed to speak such earlier out of frustration over Terri's plight, but it does take action from the one person in Florida who can save Mrs. Schiavo, that being Gov. Bush. He was elected ostensibly because he is a republican and a conservative, and seemingly enough people agree with his agenda to elect him, even after Chad-gate. He is in his second term, and unless I am mistaken, barred from running again. It is a risky proposition, but he needs to go out on a limb to protect this innocent from this judicial execution. He cannot legally do anything, as court systems constrain him, but a chief executive can wield a great deal of extra-legal power and dare the courts to stop them. Though it is not the best example, it reminds me of President Andrew Jackson's response to the supreme court decision concerning the right of the Cherokee nation to remain on its ancestral lands--"the court has made its decision, now let it enforce it." (no I wasn't alive then hehe, but I am a student of history).

what is necessary, immediately under the circumstances, is for Jeb Bush to call out a medical support unit (with doctors nurses etc.) of the Florida National Guard as well as an MP unit of the same to protect the medical unit, and remove Mrs. Schiavo with the minimum force necessary from Woodrige Hospice (owned by euthanasia atty George Felos--a crass conflict of interest since he is also representing Michael Schiavo) and escort her under the supervision of her parents to a nursing home outside of Florida (Texas perhaps?) where she will be beyond the judicial reach of the Florida courts and in a friendly territory to the Gov.'s family (G.W. wields godlike influence even now in Texas politics). Pres. Bush is unlikely to countermand a call-up of the national guard in Florida by Jeb, esp if he wishes to preserve his right-to-life credentials, because in the event of an extralegal action of this nature, the route from Pinnellas, FL to safe haven within the borders of the state of Texas go through politically friendly states (alabama, mississippi, and Louisiana). Something like this is what is needed, gutsy action to make a stand to preserve the life of this innocent helpless woman whose family is powerless to protect her from the malevolent clutches of her (scumbag murderous adulterour) husband. BTW, if i incensed anyone with my inflamatory suggestions concerning the fate deserved of Michael Schiavo earlier, I want to apologize, and preface that by saying that I have a fear this could be a bad precedent (duh) that could hit close to home for me, as my fiancee has Guillan-Barre syndrome, which while unrelated to what happened to Mrs. Schiavo, could if left unchecked, cause a comatose condition similar to that suffered by Terri. I could never even consider such a fate for another human being, and even if Michael was a faithful and loving husband genuinely concerned with the best interest of his spouse (his 10 year liason w/ a paramour is obvious he is clearly NOT), I could not endorse such events taking shape as they are currently. but Gov. Bush needs to take drastic actions, because he is this woman's only hope now. . .

102 posted on 10/17/2003 4:22:37 PM PDT by Schwaeky
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To: Schwaeky
Bump for a wonderful read. May God bless you for your faithfulness. GBS is a tough course. May your fiancee reach total healing from that syndrome.
103 posted on 10/17/2003 4:27:24 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave
Thank you 4godsoloved...

OT but not sure how to post private.... I am worried constantly for my fiancee, she is a student at Pensacola Christian College, which puts her within the jurisdiction of those judicial pigs in Fla if something worse happened to her while she is matriculating. Do you know anything concerning healing for GBS? Currently she's on an herbal regimen that has had mixed results, (not gotten worse than that, but frequently has near paralyisis from the waist down, and highly susceptible to fevers that can reach 103* + and currently wheelchair bound).

as for Terri, as i read from those who are granted, much more informed on this than even I am, it appears that Jeb Bush has a few other options than I had even believed to be, but in all fairness the others do not guarantee the end result that calling out the national guard to escort her to safe haven can guarantee.

Basically, Jeb needs to go out on a limb politically, take a courageous act--in saving this woman's life, to show that he is worthy of election to higher office that (lets be honest, after all he is a politician) he obviously is contemplating. There is a word for it once used against a president with a cowardly lion complex-- less profile, more courage!!!!

104 posted on 10/17/2003 4:40:42 PM PDT by Schwaeky
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Maybe people should focus their energy on changing the law in this situation?

Good Idea.

We wouldn't want to end up with a country that kills the disabled like Nazi Germany did.

Oh, I forgot. We already kill disabled people, even those who have expressed an interest in living.

105 posted on 10/17/2003 4:50:44 PM PDT by syriacus (Judge Greer---YOU should have looked into Terri's eyes and asked her if she wanted life.)
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To: Schwaeky
Basically, Jeb needs to go out on a limb politically, take a courageous act--in saving this woman's life,

The ball is in Jeb's court, speaking metaphorically.

If he doesn't act, he might as well be a 50's governor ordering his officers to set the dogs on citizens trying to gain entry to "Whites Only" lunchonettes.

There is a season for everything and this is the season of war between those who would kill the weak and those who would defend the weak.

106 posted on 10/17/2003 4:56:35 PM PDT by syriacus (Judge Greer---YOU should have looked into Terri's eyes and asked her if she wanted life.)
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To: syriacus
Oh, I forgot

Sorry. I lied. I didn't really forget.

107 posted on 10/17/2003 4:59:41 PM PDT by syriacus (Judge Greer---YOU should have looked into Terri's eyes and asked her if she wanted life.)
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To: syriacus
If he doesn't act, as a pro-lifer his political career would be OVER (speaking to the obvious here). And if he shifted his view, he would not find much friendly support on the pro-choice side in general, because only a small portion of even that side support a judicial murder like this, this seems to have brought people of differing opinons together, other than the fringe right-to-die which has found favour with courts in south florida...

i must confess, that I am appalled that the mainstream media in general (and yes I am lumping conservative talk radio in this too) has been silent on this until now, when it has been all over Our Sunday Visitor, National Catholic Register, and many other Catholic and Pro-Life publications, since Michael Schiavo decided to pursue the court-sanctioned murder of his wife.. more coverage was given for longer period for Carla Faye Tucker.....
108 posted on 10/17/2003 5:08:50 PM PDT by Schwaeky
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To: strela
Even before the rise of Adolph Hitler's Third Reich, the way for the gruesome Nazi holocaust of human extermination and cruel butchery was being prepared in the 1930 German Weimar Republic through the medical establishment and philosophical elite's adoption of the "quality of life" concept in place of the "sanctity of life." The Nuremberg trials, exposing the horrible Nazi war crimes, revealed that Germany's trend toward atrocity began with their progressive embrace of the Hegelian doctrine of "rational utility," where an individual's worth is in relation to their contribution to the state..
109 posted on 10/17/2003 5:13:25 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: AbsoluteJustice

Fact- The courts have not ordered an execution.

27 posted on 10/17/2003 1:28 PM PDT by AbsoluteJustice

You are correct.

The court only ordered the feeding tube removed.

If she chooses to die because she does not get any nourshment, well her blood is on her own head.
110 posted on 10/17/2003 5:14:43 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport
but even if she now has the ability to eat by her own volition (likely not given the LACK of rehabilitive care)
this court order bars any form of nourishment from reaching her person, murder by starvation is a class A felony in all 50 states, yet the florida court is giving michael schiavo a pass on this to let him murder his wife...

if she lacks the ability to do it herself yet, because it does take retraining (my fiancee had to relearn to walk after her first bout w/ GBS, and that was no fun I assure you), then there should be a stay on the execution, until such can be done. But because Judge Greer has denied the motion for such, not only is that blackrobe signing on to ordering a death, he is also an accomplice to the act of murder, along w/ Mr. Felos, and Gov. Bush if he does not act in time...
111 posted on 10/17/2003 5:22:44 PM PDT by Schwaeky
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To: NYer; xzins; RnMomof7; Nita Nupress; PhilDragoo; editor-surveyor; blam; Alamo-Girl; AAABEST; ...
Here is what Terri Schiavo is now facing, alone in a room in a Florida hospice.

"A conscious person would feel it (dehydration) just as you and I would. They will go into seizures. Their skin cracks, their tongue cracks, their lips crack. They may have nosebleeds because of the drying of the mucous membranes, and heaving and vomiting might ensue because of the drying out of the stomach lining. They feel the pangs of hunger and thirst. Imagine going one day without a glass of water. Death by dehydration takes ten to fourteen days. It is an extremely agonizing death."

Yes, you would choose THIS death over life with a feeding tube. I pray it never happens to you or a member of your family.

Jebb BBush......this is unchristian cruelty and abuse......New Concentration Camp DeHydration Chamber of Florida?.....see St Luke 16:19-31........" in Torments!"

112 posted on 10/17/2003 5:22:57 PM PDT by maestro
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To: AbsoluteJustice
"I propose that in the event that Jeb Bush does not step forward and fulfill his obligation in this matter, that we organize a national grass-roots campaign to boot him from office."
It's just so silly. This kind of comment illustrates so well "cutting off your nose to spite your face." I still want someone to name one legitimate, useful thing that Jeb Bush can do-- just one.
113 posted on 10/17/2003 5:25:56 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: syriacus
The ball is in Jeb's court, speaking metaphorically.
I'm on Terri's side. Please name just one effective thing Bush can do. Be as specific as you can. Empty motions don't count. (We don't need him to lapse into Larry Klaymanesque behavior)
114 posted on 10/17/2003 5:29:07 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Schwaeky
Bush needs to take drastic actions, because he is this woman's only hope now. . .
102 posted on 10/17/2003 4:22 PM PDT by Schwaeky

Amen,.......More Grace and mercy, Mercy, MERCY,.....MERCY,...in Jesus' Precious Name, Amen!!!

(St. Luke 10:9-14)

115 posted on 10/17/2003 5:30:55 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Coral Snake
Got my vote.
116 posted on 10/17/2003 5:32:35 PM PDT by sport
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
LOL!
117 posted on 10/17/2003 5:32:38 PM PDT by agrace
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To: Clara Lou
Would you allow me to suggest something the governor of Florida can do?
118 posted on 10/17/2003 5:34:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: maestro
Here is what Terri Schiavo is now facing, alone in a room in a Florida hospice.
"A conscious person would feel it (dehydration) just as you and I would. They will go into seizures. Their skin cracks, their tongue cracks, their lips crack. They may have nosebleeds because of the drying of the mucous membranes, and heaving and vomiting might ensue because of the drying out of the stomach lining. They feel the pangs of hunger and thirst. Imagine going one day without a glass of water. Death by dehydration takes ten to fourteen days. It is an extremely agonizing death."

While I support Terri's parents in this matter, this description is high melodrama. My elderly mother, by her own choice (DNR papers, living will, etc.) died of a combination of starvation and thirst. My mother's lips never cracked, her nose never bled, she never vomited. She never had seizures. She lived over two weeks on nothing more than an occasional (and I am not exaggerating in the slightest here) ice chip. She hadn't eaten in 3 weeks. She never complained of hunger. No licensed Hospice will let a person suffer this way. This is propaganda.
119 posted on 10/17/2003 5:37:45 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Clara Lou
time is come for Jeb to engage in some Andy Jackson style defiance of the courts--Judge Greer, Michael Schiavo, and George Felos all be damned.

a judge is only as good as his decree is honored..

all it takes is for some courage to stand up to the culture of death to tell them to fly a kite, back it up with force of executive action, and the culture of death is on its way to defeat. Terri's hero, or the person who by inaction will sign her death warrant, is the Governor of Florida, Mr. Jeb Bush...


as a matter of political analysis, Jeb has no choice but to rescue her. If he doesn't he not only finishes his political career, but he destroy's his brother's chances of re-election--the very people who if in power would let Terri die would nonetheless have a field day over such a fiasco. I know that is a little less than altrusitic, making a cold-calculated political analysis when this innocent woman's life is in jeaporday, but here's a chance for Bush to do the right thing and to gain politically in the process
120 posted on 10/17/2003 5:38:02 PM PDT by Schwaeky
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