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Americans Are Losing The Peace In Europe
Life Magazine ^ | January 7, 1946 | John Dos Passos

Posted on 10/17/2003 9:44:42 AM PDT by Weimdog

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To: Weimdog
The more things change, the more they same the same.
61 posted on 10/18/2003 6:17:36 AM PDT by Valin (I have my own little world, but it's okay - they know me here.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/quagmire.asp debunked a similar alleged Reuters piece. Did you see the dead-tree (or a least the microfiche copy) of the Life article?
Snopes is NOT the un-biased arbiter of truth that they appear to be, so I also take what THEY say with a large grain of salt...
...but, from www.life.com, at least the COVER PICTURE and the alleged date of publication (January 7, 1946) check out:


62 posted on 10/18/2003 9:02:47 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
See also, from www.magreenwood.com:
The Greenwood Reports

VOLUME 9, NO. 1, May 2003

THIS FEATURE INCLUDES;

Polyanna Returns

By Mary Ann Greenwood

PollyAnna ReturnsPOLLYANNA RETURNS
Pollyanna has been almost pecked to death by Chicken Little  –   and the Bears are eating Bull meat on Wall Street. What a challenging time the 2000-2002 Bear Market has been for investors, managers and advisors.

Every Bear Market (when the equity market loses 30+ percent of its value) has its causes and characteristics.  There have been four over the past century (see insert).  This time, it began with the Y2K panic, followed by the technology bubble, a prolonged Presidential election, the terrorist attack of 9-11, corporate governance issues, and finally, the invasion of Iraq. Is it over?  Pollyanna certainly hopes so!

In the search for what one should do in this environment, pundits are declaring, as always, “this time it is different”; investors should seek new strategies and programs.  In truth, most would-be pundits don’t know.  Investment has not changed: capital is placed at risk with the expectation of gain, but the possibility of loss.  Having been around the block a couple of times, Pollyanna observes that Santayana was right, “Those who cannot remember history, are condemned to repeat it.”

To illustrate, a friend recently shared a copy of LIFE Magazine from January 7, 1946 – just five months after the end of WWII.  The purpose was to read an article on Winston Churchill’s paintings, but another article caught my attention:  WALL STREET - Bull Market Gives New Life to Citadel of U.S. Capitalism. The opening paragraph is great...

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Yet another article in that January 1946 issue of  LIFE caught my attention: Americans are Losing the Victory in Europe.  John Dos Passos, returning from the Nurnberg trials, reported on the difficult times in post-war Germany and Europe. His comments remind us that winning the peace may be as difficult as winning the war.  I expect that we should be prepared to hear similar criticisms of the present, even though we expect the eventual outcome to be successful.

“A tour of the beaten-up cities of Europe six months after victory is a mighty sobering experience for anyone. Europeans, friend and foe alike, look you accusingly in the face and tell you how bitterly they are disappointed in you as an American.  They cite the evolution of the word “liberation.”  Before the Normandy landings it meant to be freed from the tyranny of the Nazis. Now it stands in the minds of the civilians for one thing, looting.

“Never has American prestige in Europe been lower. People never tire of telling you of the ignorance and rowdyism of American troops, of our misunderstanding of European conditions...


63 posted on 10/18/2003 9:13:08 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Snopes is NOT the un-biased arbiter of truth that they [claim] to be

True, in fact the link they provide is clearly biased. But I'd feel better knowing if anyone who posts regularly on this forum has actually seen this article in a more substantial form. It has the odor of apocrypha because it is a little too convenient and I find it unusual that Dos Passos would attack his beloved Soviet Union.

64 posted on 10/18/2003 9:24:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay and Idi-ay are ead-day)
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To: RonDog
See also, from www.scareful.com:
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( revised ) L I F E Issue Date: January 7 1946 LIFE Magazine, with all those great photographs, features, writers, vintage advertisements and MORE! MORE LIFE magazines, CLICK HERE! IN THIS ISSUE (MOST below include MANY PICTURES): This description copyright Edward D Peyton 2002. Any un-authorized use of this description is strictly prohibited.

Cover: Winston Churchill's Paintings Speaking of Pictures . Carol Landis dances behind a flaming paper hoop. Then it burns away!
Life's reports: Oldest man in U. S. Dies -- Jim Wilson concludes a healthy life at 120. GRIM Europe faces winter of misery. Americans are losing the victory in Europe. Destitute nations fell that the U. S. has failed them by John Dos Passos. the Sceptical French Press...


65 posted on 10/18/2003 9:27:45 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
This is an EXCELLENT article that cannot get TOO MUCH attention.

See also:

HOW WE ARE LOSING WORLD WAR II
      Posted by Dallas59
On 10/18/2003 3:25 AM PDT with 32 comments


Life Magazine ^ | Jan/07/1946 | John Dos Passos
     
 
Americans are losing the victory in Europe Destitute nations feel America has failed them
      Posted by LadyDoc
On 10/17/2003 2:59 PM PDT with 6 comments


Life ^ | Jan 7,1946 | John Dos Passos
     
 
Time-Life Mag 1946: Americans Are Losing Victory in Europe
      Posted by MattAMiller
On 10/17/2003 1:43 PM PDT with 8 comments


Time-Life/JessicaWells.com ^ | January 7, 1946 | John Dos Passos
     
 
Americans Are Losing The Peace In Europe
      Posted by Weimdog
On 10/17/2003 9:44 AM PDT with 64 comments


Life Magazine ^ | January 7, 1946 | John Dos Passos

66 posted on 10/18/2003 11:18:41 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: Weimdog
note to all freepers/lurkers just arriving at this thread...
be sure to see post #50.
67 posted on 10/18/2003 12:23:17 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
68 posted on 10/19/2003 12:05:59 AM PDT by windchime
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To: Lion in Winter
The marxist style of Dos Passos in his "socialist realism" years (some here have suggested he toned it down in later years) is a model of excellence for the left-wing national press today. Peter Jennings probably studies Dos Passos daily, and says a little prayer to Karl Marx before he begins each broadcast.
69 posted on 10/19/2003 4:27:18 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: laotzu
It was another Viet Nam

LOL!

70 posted on 10/19/2003 4:28:04 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: seamole
I don't know if Tony Snow was trolling Free Republic or Instapundit, but Jessicaswell.com was mentioned.

Tony Snow on Fox News Sunday (10/19/2003):

"Rummaging through the Internet, I came across an alarming dispatch from the war, bearing the headline: "Americans Are Losing the Victory..."

The upshot was that just seven months after the end of hostilities, things are a complete and deteriorating mess. Here are some of the more depressing details. A soldier says, "We've lost the peace. We can't make it stick."

The writer observes, "Never has American prestige in Europe (search) been lower. People never tire of telling you of the ignorance and rowdy-ism of American troops." The French warn that, "our policy is producing results opposite too those we planned." Meanwhile, some troops are tired of talk about grants to the war-torn nation. Says one, "Let them pay for it. It's their fault."

And finally, this: "A great many Europeans feel that the cure has been worse than the disease... The time has come for our own future security, to give the best we have to the world instead of the worst."

Sound familiar? The author of the piece: John Dos Passos. The source: Life Magazine. The date: January 7, 1946.

A tip of the hat to the Jessica's Well Web site for this item."

They even used my graphic!

http://www.jessicaswell.com/

71 posted on 10/20/2003 12:32:13 PM PDT by Weimdog
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To: Weimdog
I saw this story covered again on Fox News last night. Which means they've repeated it at least several times.

We need to get Fox News into more homes.
72 posted on 10/22/2003 3:18:36 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Weimdog
Rush is talking about this today.

The entire article is on his (free) website along with cover and photo.

Dims must be mortified by these "reprehensable" "attrocities", under Dim Prez FDR and HT.

Of course nothing is said about beheadings etc.

73 posted on 06/04/2004 10:39:49 AM PDT by Positive
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To: Weimdog

This thread came up in a search engine. I have posted it in a forum frequented by America-hating Europeans
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34104&highlight=

See my comments below.


74 posted on 12/28/2004 8:45:12 PM PST by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: walford

Nice.

I've registered to be able to post comments on the site. Just waiting for confirmation.

I think the interesting thing about the Life magazine WW2 article is how closely it mirrors todays news coverage of events in Iraq. The tone is almost exactly the same. The American forces are bogged down, it's a quagmire, losing the peace, etc. It's eerily familiar.


75 posted on 12/29/2004 10:06:46 AM PST by Weimdog
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To: Weimdog

Maybe time to ressurect this.


76 posted on 01/10/2005 1:21:06 PM PST by JoeV1 (The Democrats-The unlawful and corrupt leading the uneducated and blind)
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