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Space set to become war zone, warns US general
smh ^ | October 16, 2003

Posted on 10/17/2003 6:09:18 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

Space may become a war zone in the not-too-distant future, a senior US military officer said today, hours after China became only the third country after the US and the former Soviet Union to put a man in space.

"In my view it will not be long before space becomes a battleground," Lieutenant General Edward Anderson, deputy commander of US Northern Command, said in response to a question at a geospatial intelligence conference in New Orleans.

"Our military forces ... depend very, very heavily on space capabilities, and so that is a statement of the obvious to our potential threat, whoever that may be," he said.

"They can see that one of the ways that they can certainly diminish our capabilities will be to attack the space systems," said Anderson, who was formerly with US Space Command.

"Now how they do that and who that's going to be I can't tell you in this audience," he said at the unclassified conference.

The United States operates spy satellites in space.

Earlier in the day, Rich Haver, former special assistant for intelligence to Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, said he expected battles in space within the next two decades.

"I believe space is the place we will fight in the next 20 years," said Haver, now vice president for intelligence strategy at Northrop Grumman Mission Systems.

"There are executive orders that say we don't want to do that. There's been a long-standing US policy to try to keep space a peaceful place, but ... we have in space assets absolutely essential to the conduct of our military operations, absolutely essential to our national security. They have been there for many years," he said.

"When the true history of the Cold War is written and all the classified items are finally unclassified, I believe that historians will note that it was in space that a significant degree of this country's ability to win the Cold War was embedded," Haver said.

Responding to a question about the implications of China sending a man into space this week, Haver said: "I think the Chinese are telling us they're there, and I think if we ever wind up in a confrontation again with any one of the major powers who has a space capability we will find space is a battleground."

Chinese "taikonaut" Yang Liwei touched down in the grasslands of Inner Mongolia early on Thursday local time after a 21-hour odyssey that took him around the world 14 times.

Haver added that he was not implying that China was the next great competitor or enemy of the United States.

The ability to launch devices into space is rapidly becoming a multinational activity, Haver said.

Reuters ldj


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: government; military; space; spacecommand; war

1 posted on 10/17/2003 6:09:19 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Wow. I hadn't even thought about this eventuality. It will happen. In other words, war on the planet, war in space. Aren't we just evolving as a race?/sarcasm/
2 posted on 10/17/2003 6:13:33 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: stainlessbanner
We must not turn to the dark side of the force Luke
3 posted on 10/17/2003 6:50:56 AM PDT by holdmuhbeer
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To: stainlessbanner
In other words, it's okay as long as it's just us.
4 posted on 10/17/2003 10:57:47 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
In other words, it's okay as long as it's just us.

We rarely fight with ourselves.

5 posted on 10/17/2003 11:03:26 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Speak for yourself buddy! Oh shut up! No, you shut up! If you two don't shut up I'm gona pound you!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
We won't be fighting with ourselves.
The doctrine of pre-emptive first strike
make a rogue nation of America.
6 posted on 10/17/2003 11:05:10 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse; Harmless Teddy Bear
And we may have done a little bit
Of fightin' amongst ourselves
But you outside people best leave us alone

In America, CDB

7 posted on 10/17/2003 11:27:12 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: gcruse
Can you explain what you are grunting about for those of us who don't speak liberal cliche?
8 posted on 10/17/2003 11:34:36 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
I have a next door neighbor who says it is within his rights to come on my property and attack me if he thinks I am planning to attack him. Funny, but the local law enforcement agencies don't see it that way. Can't imagine why.
9 posted on 10/17/2003 11:43:36 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
First of all, I just don't see where you think we are about to preemptively attack the Chinese for going into space.

Second, if you are just explaining your point, fine. But your response sounds like you are trying to hold nations to the same standard as individuals. That is silly. Nor is the United States so nutty as to launch a suprise attack based on paranoia.

10 posted on 10/17/2003 11:52:33 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
The US has stated we will attack without being attacked. I made no reference to China, but rather that high concern someone else is planning to militarize space is telling. The notion that only Americans are sufficiently moral to militarize space and, to the extreme, have the standing to attack other countries without having been attacked is itself immoral and the mark of a 'rogue.'
11 posted on 10/17/2003 12:17:11 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
The US has stated we will attack without being attacked. I made no reference to China, but rather that high concern someone else is planning to militarize space is telling.

Sure, but like I said, nations are not held to the same standard as individuals. It would be absurd to give other nations the assurance that we will cede the first strike to them.

And not to be concerned about Chinese military ambitions is either ignorance or the usual leftist hatred for America.

The notion that only Americans are sufficiently moral to militarize space and, to the extreme, have the standing to attack other countries without having been attacked is itself immoral and the mark of a 'rogue.'

Now you sound like Michael Moore or Noam Chomsky. Such bald dismissal of facts and gross mischaracterizations are the mark of America-hating leftist trolls.

If you think America is on the same moral plane as the thugs running China, I say lay off the mouthwash, pal.

12 posted on 10/17/2003 12:27:11 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
If you think attacking other countries without having been attacked by them is moral, there is more at stake here than mouthwash.
13 posted on 10/17/2003 1:06:03 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: gcruse
If you think attacking other countries without having been attacked by them is moral, there is more at stake here than mouthwash.

You are making the same mistake every nutty lefty made purposefully during the cold war.

One of the things you never do is give another nation the green light to attack you. If you make a concrete statement that you will never conduct a first strike, you let another nation make every preparation for war in safety. By leaving ambiguity, other nations must factor in whether their war preparations cause an attack before they are ready.

Virtue is proved right by her actions. You can impugn the moral authority of America, and certainly we have sinned at times, but compare our track record against your heroes in China and the Soviet Union and your posturing about moral authority is shown to be worthless.

14 posted on 10/17/2003 3:15:22 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Normal4me; RightWhale; demlosers; Prof Engineer; BlazingArizona; ThreePuttinDude; Brett66; ...
Space Ping! This is the space ping list! Let me know if you want on or off this list!
15 posted on 10/18/2003 6:22:41 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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