Posted on 10/16/2003 3:05:36 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
Well, there's a mountain of evidence from many sources to suggest that, indeed, Bill Clinton, has committed sexual assault. Kobe, on the other hand, has been accused by ONE person, and that person is of VERY questionable character. HUGE difference. Yes, Kobe will stand trial, and hopefully the truth will triumph.
Now, then, one simple question for you. DOES KOBE BRYANT DESERVE A FAIR TRIAL? YES OR NO?
The accuser is not a "victim" until she proves she was actually raped.
I don't care one whit about Kobe Bryant. But I DO care about a man who seems to be getting railroaded by a woman who can't seem to say no.
Certainly
He deserves a fair trial and a fast hanging.
Certainly
He deserves a fair trial and a fast hanging.
LOL. Well, at least you've shown your true colors. End of discussion.
There is another perp who needs your support. Michael Jackson is being arrested for child molestation.
You say the world is getting rid of her demons I say "Baby what have you been smoking?"
You just don't know when to stop do you? I don't "support" any perps, only fairness and justice. You should give it a try sometime. If the evidence exists to arrest Michael Jackson, then he should absolutely be brought in and put on trial. If after a fair trial he's proven guilty, then lock him up and throw away the key. Same for Kobe.
Having said that, you are making the same mistake with Jackson as you did Clinton. Somehow you twist it so if Clinton was lying about raping Juanita, then of course Kobe is lying. Evidently you know want to say if Jackson is lying, so is Kobe. I will once again point out to you the HUGE problem with your illogical argument. BOTH Jackson and Clinton have had numerous people accuse them of sexual abuse. It is nothing new for them; however, NOBODY has made ANY previous accusations against Kobe. Evidently, though, you just want to immediately hang anyone accused of sexual assault. It's a good thing the American justice system isn't based upon your warped idea of "fairness".
By the way, it now appears that Kobe's accuser was banging the prosecution's KEY WITNESS about ONE WEEK before her encounter with Kobe. ROFL. I'm sure that makes her and the witness even more credible in your eyes, somehow. LOL. Whatever. It's beginning to look like she would bend over for any guy out there, including a dorky-looking minimum-wage paid bell hop, but have sex with Kobe Bryant? *GASP!* She would have to be FORCED to do that! Riiiiiiiiiight. Keep dreamin'.
LOL. Sorry, I'm just reporting the news. Yes, it's time to shoot this messenger, since you don't like my message. If I tell you something that casts doubt about the credibility of the prosecution's case that is somehow "attacking the victim". No, Michael Jackson doesn't need me to do anything on his behalf, nor have I any interest to. ONCE AGAIN, Kobe does not have a history of sexually assaulting people, while Jackson and Clinton do. Can you see the difference yet? Can you? Just concentrate really hard and it'll eventually come to you.
In the meantime, how about we stick to the subject of Kobe Bryant? Is your attack on him so weak and pathetic that you have to bring in Michael Jackson and Bill Clinton to strengthen your "case"? I don't know what happened in that room AND NEITHER DO YOU. You said the case should be based solely on the testimony of witnesses, not about the "victim's" credibility. WELL, WHAT DO YOU SAY WHEN THE SUPPOSED VICTIM IS HAVING SEX WITH THE KEY WITNESS??? HUH??? I suppose it would also be OK if she's having sex with the judge and all the jurors, too, right?
You are inconsequential. You are the chattering fan cheering his star. The only problem is the star is a perp.
You don't have the first clue of what you are talking about. All you have done is pre-judge a man. Congratulations.
And the man with the golden gun thinks he knows so much
Thinks he knows so much
Uh - it seems you have also.
Uh - I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not the one pronouncing guilt on people before they have been tried. Are you also in favor of doing away with trials?
No, YOU are the one who thinks he knows it all, and that's my entire point. I'm willing to give Kobe his day in court. You are not, since you already "know" that he is guilty. Your reasoning is devoid of any logic whatsoever. What connection does Kobe Bryant have with any of those other people than the fact that he has been accused of a crime? Using your logic you are guilty of anything somebody accuses you of, simply because other people have been accused of similar crimes. You can name 10,000 people that have been accused and/or convicted of rape if you want, but that has nothing to do Kobe whatsoever. Your constant referring to Clinton and others is typical of someone who has a weak argument and can't deal with the actual facts and details of what really matters - what happened with Kobe and this girl.
I do not believe a court of law is equivalent to a court of public opinion. If I did then I would believe that OJ Simpson did not murder Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman. You gave him his day in court. I know he murdered them.
Secondly, OJ had TWO trials, remember? He wasn't convicted in the criminal trial, but he WAS in the civil trial, remember? So, your argument collapses ONCE AGAIN, since OJ WAS FOUND GUILTY by a court. HOME RUN #2.
Finally, ONCE AGAIN, you are completely unable to form an argument agaisnt Kobe without spouting off about Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, or OJ Simpson. THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH KOBE WHATSOEVER. Their guilt or innocense HAVE NO RELATION to Kobe's guilt or innocense. Is that really so difficult of a concept for you to grasp? Do you think the prosecution should tell the Kobe jury "Ladies and gentlemen, we 'know' Bill Clinton was lying. We 'know' Michael Jackson was lying. We 'know' OJ Simpson was lying. This, of course, means that Kobe Bryant is lying. Don't bother examining the facts of this case, or worry about the trustworthiness of the accuser, or listen to any witnesses in this trial, because Kobe is a liar and that's all you need to know. If these other people were lying, then so is Kobe. Convict. Thank you." LOL Yeah, right. HOME RUN #3. Game over.
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