Palestinians set fire to Joseph's Tomb

The Jerusalem Post ^ | 16 October 2003 | MARGOT DUDKEVITCH

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Oct. 16, 2003
Palestinians set fire to Joseph's Tomb
By MARGOT DUDKEVITCH

Joseph's Tomb set on fire Photo: AP Advertisement

The IDF permitted hundreds of Jewish worshippers access to Joseph's Tomb in Nablus to pray at the shrine early Thursday.

Later the worshippers left in buses accompanied by IDF forces who guarded them throughout the visit.

Shortly after their departure a group of Palestinian youths arrived at the site and set fire to the shrine throwing burning tires inside the compound.

The local Palestinian fire brigade arrived and extinguished the flames.

It was the fourth time authorization was given to Jews to pray at the site since security forces were forced to leave the site in October 2000 as a Palestinian mob descended, ransacked and vandalized the holy site and prevented the evacuation of Border policeman Madhat Yusef who bled to death.

IDF officials said the approval was given to the worshippers because of the Succoth holiday. It was the largest group ever to be allowed to enter the area.

In the past three years, hundreds of Jews have snuck into the tomb to pray illegally despite a ban issued by the OC Central Command that forbids Israelis from entering areas under full Palestinian control.

In September, Palestinians shot at IDF paratroopers who had reached the site to evacuate a number of Jewish worshippers who arrived without permission to pray there.

Israeli security officials said the last time the army gave permission to a group of religious Jews was in July.

In the early morning hours the worshippers erected a Succa at the site and former Sephardic chief Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu led them in prayers.

[Jim Cane]

???

It wasn't my example. Also, a little historical note: the Christians DIDN'T use the Haga Sophia as a killing grounds for the Muslims, whearas the Romans DID use the Colliseum to butcher Christians.

The poster to whom I was responding made a big silly.

[carton253]

Shame on me for not understanding that... Sorry!

[Alouette]

Religion of Piss Alert.

FRmail me to be added or removed from this pro-Israel ping list.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

The IDF permitted hundreds of Jewish worshippers access to Joseph's Tomb in Nablus to pray at the shrine early Thursday.

Please pardon my ignorance, but I have a few basic questions about this situation I hope someone can answer:

Which Joseph is this?

Why are Jewish worshippers praying at a tomb?

Are these worshippers of a particular sect?

I could understand if these were Catholics but don't know enough about Judaism to understand their motivation. I had been under the impression that many Jews didn't believe in an afterlife.

[ZULU]

"Visit Pantheon in Roma. The Butcher Christians turned it into church. < \sarcasm. >"

Better to change a place of paganism into a place of non-violent worship than for a horde of pillaging, raping, enslaving, plundering barbarians, fresh from the steppes of central Asia, to change a church into a mosque.

I guess the Turks weren't too good at building things for themselves. They were better at taking over other people's edifices and altering them for their own purposes!

Vlad Tepes lives!!!!!

[sheik yerbouty]

Supposedly, this site was holy to Muslims as well. Palesites must have shi'ite for brains.

[carton253]

That's what I was thinking... didn't Islam co-op all Jewish and Christian saints as their own. So, why destroy Joseph's tomb?

[anotherview]

Joseph as in the coat of many colors. The son of Jacob who was sold into slavery in Egypt.

[thirdheavenward]

In truth there are no such things as "holy" sites. That doesn't mean its nice to destroy something that someone else reveres, but God is not concerned with stones and bones. The murders that the terrorists commit are far more heinous than whatever they do to ancient relics, even if it all comes from the same rage.

[lilylangtree]

Isn't that an oxymoron--having fanatic Islamics in charge of Jewish holy sites? Remembered watching or reading that when Israel "reconvened" as a nation, that Jewish holy sites were turned over to the Arab religious leaders to control. Jeepers! Wondered what dunderhead came up with that idea. Perhaps Ehud Barak, Shimon Peres or Menachem Begin?

[anotherview]

Perhaps that's true in your religious beliefs. Not mine.

[sheik yerbouty]

They are rabid imbeciles.

[fella]

"You've got to love how Islamic people respect Jewish and Christian holy sites."

This is why there is a mosque on the Tempel Mount.

[TexasCowboy]

Please add me, Alouette.

[Is2C]

Please pardon my ignorance, but I have a few basic questions about this situation I hope someone can answer:

Which Joseph is this?

Joseph son of Jacob who was the son of Issac.

Why are Jewish worshippers praying at a tomb?

Are these worshippers of a particular sect?

I could understand if these were Catholics but don't know enough about Judaism to understand their motivation. I had been under the impression that many Jews didn't believe in an afterlife.

I am assuming that it has to do with paying homage (sp?) and respect and showing an appreciation of their history.

[carton253]

Yeah, they are...

[Alter Kaker]

How many Muslims did the Orthodox send to the lions within the walls of Haga Sophia for the crime of having a different religion?

This is subject of debate which does not interest me too much, but please cite for me evidence of Christians being eaten by lion. My understanding is this is unsubstantiated by historical record.

Of course treatment of Muslims by Byzantines not exactly humane in response to your question.

[Thorondir]

Another sweet gesture of love and tolerance from the religion of puss, I mean puke, oops! I mean pestilence, No! Rather perversion, Wait! primitives? Oh hell. The religion of slavery, murder, oppression, terrorism, misogyny, hate, lies, and sexual mutilation of little girls.

Some defend iSLAM because they are nothing more than quavering cowards.
Some defend iSLAM because they think it makes them sound superior.
Some defend iSLAM because they think their moral relativism will protect them.
Some defend iSLAM because they think appeasement will protect them.
Some defend iSLAM because they are ignorant of iSLAM’s consistent bloody swath through human history.
Some defend iSLAM because they bought the lies of hired American PR firms.
Some defend iSLAM because they are greased with Saudi oil money.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against Christianity.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against the Jews.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against that other guy’s religion.
Some defend iSLAM because they are sleeper elements of a fifth column in our country.
Some defend iSLAM because it is their faith and they will be murdered by their ‘brothers’ if they leave.
Some defend iSLAM because they are misogynists and the cult gives them what they want.
Some defend iSLAM because they are as primitive as it is.
Some defend iSLAM because they like its fight against America (because their turd-world nations are so far beneath America).
Some defend iSLAM because it’s the popular thing to do.
I swear, some of them would defend the Aztec cannibals or the Thuggee cult if those religions of peace were alive today!

At any rate, iSLAM intends to be the death of America and freedom and every other religion on the planet.

None survive when freedom fails;
Good men rot in filthy jails,
While those who cried “Appease! Appease!”
Are hanged by those they tried to please.

Human civilization had better wake up soon and get as serious about its survival as the seventh-century savages of Islam are about our annihilation!
SLEEPING AMERICANS ARE EASIER TO KILL.
Do not be lulled to sleep by the Religion of Peace defenders.

Click here and never forget the face of Islam and what it wants for you infidels.

[tracer]

The Palestnazis killed American's yesterday, and now this. GW and America will lose support and standing if we do not fire up the Cobras, cue up the "Ride of the Valkeries," and hit the dusty trail into "Palestine."

The "Arab street" henceforth should be ignored and melted, if necessary......

[Havoc]

ONE QUESTION: What do you all think would be the ramifications of an Israelite stubbing a toe at an islamic temple, much less actually defacing it in anyway.. World war IV. That band of refuse doesn't need a state, they need a swift kick in the #$% that results in a not so gentle landing on the other side of the border. Period.