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205 migrants die hard, lonely deaths (Barf Alert)
AZcentral ^ | Oct. 16, 2003 | Susan Carroll

Posted on 10/16/2003 10:24:22 AM PDT by f7Oshawn

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:21:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It is a lonely place to die, out in the soft sandy washes. The desert floor, with its volcanic rock, can reach 160 degrees. Most people go down slowly.

Blood starts to seep into the lungs. Exposed skin burns and the sweat glands shut down. Little hemorrhages, tiny leaks, start in the heart.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; arizonarepublic; illegals; immigrantlist; immigrants; liberalwackos; poorimmigrants
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Does helping people who really do need help offend you so much? Or is it just Mexicans you wish would die off?

And as far as Mexicans ---- well I'm sure you realize the 5 ex-presidents of Mexico get an annual pension that is more than TEN times that of American ex-presidents. That's right ---- they receive $5 million a year. Mexico has the second highest oil reserves in the western hemisphere, it competes with Great Britain and Germany in number of billionaires ----- so why are Mexicans dying? It is not the fault of the USA but a system in great need of being changed. It's not being changed.

181 posted on 10/16/2003 1:02:32 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Javelina
I don't want them dying. I would prefer our government leaders start threatening the Mexican leaders (instead of the current way --- them constantly threatening us). We can tell them that we will be shutting down the massive immigration they've got going, that it's time for them to make some changes quickly ---- or they can just deal with the Revolution they are bringing on.
182 posted on 10/16/2003 1:04:53 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: f7Oshawn
Illegal immigration is *illegal* because it's no good for this country and its citizens, and it's no good for the *illegals*. Case in point. Call me a compassionless Christian -- I say let the *illegals* reap what they sow.

BTW, I lived in south eastern Mexico for about a year, and made many friends. I have nothing against Mexicans, at all. I've just got this thing against ... illegals. Let them die. Let them be ripped off by unscrupulous employers. Let them suffer. Let them obey the law.
183 posted on 10/16/2003 1:05:23 PM PDT by Theo
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To: Javelina
The crime of illegally entering this country does not justify death. That's silly and stupid

And if the illegal is entering our country with the intention of commiting murder, then what? Is it still "silly and stupid?"

187 posted on 10/16/2003 1:10:34 PM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
205 less sucking on the wellfare tit,hehehehe!
188 posted on 10/16/2003 1:12:01 PM PDT by Gottwnz
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To: f7Oshawn
...the bodies of 205 undocumented immigrants were found in Arizona...

This is hard to believe. NAFTA was supposed to create a paradise for Mexican workers that would keep them working in their own nation.

What a load of crap!

Much of the goods that say Made In Mexico are actually Made In China, routed through Mexico for some picayune operation then shipped up to the trash buyers in the good old USA.

WTO and NAFTA are still a valuable tools for the one world folks who see these two treaties as the way to reduce the USA to a third world power (but full of diversity) to make it easier to fold into the New World Order.

They couldn't accomplish that without draining our nation of manufacturing facilities. Not satisfied with that, the "service" jobs are next.

It will be easy to sign the Kyoto treaty with no Industries. No industries: no smoke and fewer cars. Only the political and international business classes will have autos and I bet they look like 1939 Packards.

A special center lane will be constructed so that they can speed along at 100 MPH past the horse driven carts and bicycles of the new peasant class.

At least we can take some solace in knowing that, under our world socialist government, feminism, homosexual agendas, diversity, etc. will be tossed on the scapheap of history by our leaders.

189 posted on 10/16/2003 1:12:47 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: f7Oshawn
They always get the newsbabes to write the immigrant sob stories.
190 posted on 10/16/2003 1:13:39 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
I realize that this is just a brief sketch of an idea that I have been working on, but I believe you can see that it would provide a way for Mexicans in particular to improve their lives while still providing the U.S. with a secure border and keeping us from losing tax revenue from under the table payments. Will it magically solve all the problems? No, I have no illusions that it would. But I do think it would be a big step in the right direction. Maybe even save a few people from dying in the desert while reaching for the American Dream.

If they dont get citizenship and the right to vote the system will be called apartied. There is simply no way the you can morally reason taking the pressure off of mexico's elite by placing it on America. Mexico has to change. But our first responsibility is to our rule of law.

192 posted on 10/16/2003 1:14:19 PM PDT by PuNcH
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To: Theo
Call me a compassionless Christian

What is real compassion? There is a pervasive "false" compassion which means we do for people who won't do for themselves. Nothing improves for those remaining in Mexico with the kind of fake compassion we as a country have been showing. It's all getting worse.

193 posted on 10/16/2003 1:14:20 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: f7Oshawn
Invading foreign countries has its risks. Perhaps those risks should be more seriously considered in advance.
195 posted on 10/16/2003 1:16:40 PM PDT by Spok
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To: swarthyguy
Wassamatta? No Christian sympathy for the dead?

Whatever they did, dying like this is horrible.

A lot of freepers resent this crap shoved in their faces non stop my the mass media and so called "humanitarian activists" and "peace activists" who are always slanted to the left

The INS/Border Patrol may not be guarding our Mexican border but at least the hot weather is.

197 posted on 10/16/2003 1:19:00 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Javelina
Real compassion would be to tell Mexico they WILL reform and they WILL allow for a middle class society. No more of this filthy oligarchy that is keeping the majority in such dire conditions.
198 posted on 10/16/2003 1:19:26 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Javelina
Your credentials are impeccable:

Lawyer (retired)

Moderate Conservative

Pro-choice

for pursuing diversity

Believe in some forms of spending, even social spending

Am willing (though not often) to vote for a Democrat

Yep. You're a liberal. Of course that's easy to understand when you start calling others "silly and stupid."

199 posted on 10/16/2003 1:20:47 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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