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Jeb Bush CAN STOP death of TERRI SCHIAVO !!! CALL!!!
http://www.terrisfight.org ^ | pollywog

Posted on 10/16/2003 9:46:46 AM PDT by pollywog

I chose to put this on Breaking News because it just came on as Breaking NEWS on her website. PLEASE ,PLEASE go to the website http://www.terrisfight.org and read the letters that have just been sent to Jeb Bush in regards to the Terri Schiavo case. JEB BUSH can LEGALLY STOP THIS. CALL his office, CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, CALL and email the media.THE CLOCK is ticking to save her life.

Sorry if this post isn't " polished" and " refined" but I am not a seasoned " poster" here on FR.


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To: nmh
If this is true then why is the family pursuing it. I believe they think Jeb can stop this. Just don't ask me how!

The family is parents are pursuing it because they have nothing else left. They've been turned away in every legal venue they've pursued. They want to believe that someone can help them, and they will keep pushing at any door that even seems to be cracked open until the very end -- which I'm afraid is probably just a few days way.

But of course! So again, how can lawyers for Terri draft briefs that have no legal weight?

I'm a little confused by this question. Lawyers write briefs all the time that have little or no chance of prevailing. They do it because someone is desperate enough to pay them to do it, or because they want a forum to express a minority point of view to their legal brethren or to the public, or because they really believe what's in their brief and can't bear to stand by and do nothing, even though they know they are almost certain to lose. But just because a lawyer writes a brief, that doesn't mean that he will get the outcome he wants. Even if Jeb Bush agrees with this arguments (and I assume that he is sincere) if his own legal staff is telling him that the arguments have no legal merit, that sharply limits what he can do.

821 posted on 10/17/2003 3:56:57 AM PDT by Brandon
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To: strela
"To me, being chained to a hospital bed at the edge of life having to be fed through a tube for 13 years would be hell, and is a fate I would not wish upon my worst enemy"

If she'd had the rehab she was supposed to get, she wouldn't be chained to a bed and more than likely would not need the feeding tube either.
822 posted on 10/17/2003 4:09:24 AM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: EternalVigilance
Actually, you're wrong. They weren't solicited by the Schindlers. Were they glad they were written? Certainly. But there are many others that have an interest in this case.

Right. And they have no more weight than any other outsider with an interest in the outcome of the case.

Too late for the legislature to have any impact. This is up to the Governor, and quite possibly to the DOJ.

Amazing how FReepers can argue for limited government and state sovereignty until either (a) the cows come home, or (b) they don't like the result...and then they demand expansive government.

823 posted on 10/17/2003 4:48:18 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Poohbah
"Give Me your Poor, tired, hungry and Disabled" that's all.

Well we are on the road and be praying fervently for Teri as we travel.

Check in tonight when we get back.

824 posted on 10/17/2003 4:55:47 AM PDT by oceanperch (Terri We Love You, We lift up our Suffering for U my Dear.)
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To: iowamomforfreedom; Smocker
Keep in mind that I was simply talking about my personal opinion and I was replying on what i've seen on t.v. and like I said if I was wrong I wanted to know. But until now I haven't seen anything to make me think differently, I surely don't wish for disabled,low IQ or anyone that is just different killed for no reason. I didn't say that at all, I sincerely thought this woman was a stone cold vegtable.
825 posted on 10/17/2003 5:19:46 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: Optimist
That's just my opinion and if that's you, you truly are an optimist and I salute you for it. But I don't think that I would have the same drive and will to live. I don't mean any offense, it's just the way i'm put together.
826 posted on 10/17/2003 5:23:27 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: oceanperch; All
Sarah Foster on "American Breakfast" radio RIGHT NOW!

Listen on radio, or here:

http://www.dinershow.com/

(I'm listening on the station in the top link on the right column.)

Pass this along to everyone you can ping, I don't know how long it will be on, or if it'll be archived. She's really hitting 'em *hard* for what they're doing to Terri.
827 posted on 10/17/2003 5:24:14 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Concerned
Fair enough.
828 posted on 10/17/2003 5:25:01 AM PDT by HELLRAISER II
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To: Poohbah
It's not a question of conservatives opposing expansive government.

It is expansive government in FL that is killing an innocent disabled person!
829 posted on 10/17/2003 5:37:01 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: EternalVigilance
The story of Esther is very applicable here, but I don't think our "leaders" are listening to a cry for justice.
830 posted on 10/17/2003 5:39:33 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: MarMema
strela

I remember seeing this name too. The poster's points were extremely easy to refute. In fact, I don't even remember "strela's" specific arguments.
831 posted on 10/17/2003 5:42:49 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: All
I just signed up as I did a search for Terri and this website/posts came up. I am SO upset about this. I have been calling, faxing, praying, crying. This is beyond the pale. It is like Nazi Germany, for crying out loud. Why hasn't Jeb stopped this yet? He has been told by his "legal team" that he not only has the authority, but is obligated to save her. Why is he waiting?!? I think I am also going to send flowers to her at the hospice today as well. If anyone else wants to do same, the address is:

Terri Schiavo
c/o Woodside Hospice
6774 102nd Avenue N.
Pinellas Park, Fla. 34664
832 posted on 10/17/2003 5:47:48 AM PDT by PeyersPatches
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To: MarMema
My goodness, things got a bit crazy overnight.
833 posted on 10/17/2003 5:57:20 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Dave S
"It's amazing how anyone that disagrees with you people is automatically a troll. Do you all think with one mind? "

Funny you would think that an insult. It is actually flattering to me to be considered as great as many of the people on the Terri threads are. Do you think with no heart?
834 posted on 10/17/2003 6:45:43 AM PDT by honeygrl (Prayers for Terri Schiavo. Pro-death Trollers beware: I'm taking names and I won't ever forget.)
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To: strela
Yes, but in your hypothetical situation, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR ME TO MAKE IT TO THAT POINT? I'm not interested in spending 15 years attached to a tube being completely immobilized in order to have the slim chance of being able to move a finger or a toe later on down the road. Sorry, that's not just for me. Pass me my 9mm please, and leave the room.

I've spent a lot of time in a rehabilitation facility and have seen many terribly impaired patients recover remarkably. But of course every situation is different so I couldn't give you a time period for a hypothetical.

But one good example might be Patricia Neal, the actress (she had a starring role in The Fountainhead). Neal suffered a series of strokes in the 1960s, after which she couldn't talk, couldn't walk.

Neal was profoundly depressed and didn't want to live. Her husband, writer Roald Dahl, practically had to force her into therapy (what a contrast with Michael Schiavo).

It took months for Neal to recover her speech and ability to walk. But she did. She recovered fully and was even able to resume her acting career.

Terri, in contrast to Neal in her initial depression, wants to live. How do I know?

Watch this video of Terri's response to a doctor's command. Stick with a good 30 seconds. You will see her will to live.

835 posted on 10/17/2003 6:52:03 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: shhrubbery!
I have seen the video, and I have perused that web site several times. And, I have seen NOTHING from a medical or legal standpoint that would sway me to overturn Judge Greer's decision in this matter.
836 posted on 10/17/2003 7:07:02 AM PDT by strela ("We are the RNC. Resistance is futile. We will blend your political distinctiveness into our own.")
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To: Theodore R.
strela I remember seeing this name too. The poster's points were extremely easy to refute.

So 'easy' that you failed to ping me to a post where you discussed me? Weak, even for you.

837 posted on 10/17/2003 7:08:26 AM PDT by strela ("We are the RNC. Resistance is futile. We will blend your political distinctiveness into our own.")
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
If she'd had the rehab she was supposed to get, she wouldn't be chained to a bed and more than likely would not need the feeding tube either.

Trained physicians and professionals who went to school a hell of a lot longer than you did and who are a hell of a lot smarter than you are disagree.

838 posted on 10/17/2003 7:09:44 AM PDT by strela ("We are the RNC. Resistance is futile. We will blend your political distinctiveness into our own.")
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To: PeyersPatches
Executive Office of Governor, Legal Team to Jeb (ask to speak to the following individuals):
Robert H. Fernandez (Deputy General Counsel to Governor) -> fernanr@eog.state.fl.us
Raquel A. Rodriguez (General Counsel to Governor) -> raquel.rodriguez@myflorida.com
Christa Calamas (Assistant General Counsel to Governor) -> calamac@eog.state.fl.us
850 / 488-3494 (voice)
850 / 488-9810 (fax)

Jeb Bush, Governor -> jeb@myflorida.com
Voice: (850)488-4441
Voice: (850)488-7146
Fax: (850)487-0801
Executive Office of the Governor
400 S. Monroe Street
The Capitol
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0001

Ask to speak to Lauren O'Conner.

and his Attorney General
Charlie Crist -> ag@oag.state.fl.us
Office of Attorney General Charlie Crist
State of Florida
The Capitol PL-01
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
Main office telephone numbers
Voice: (850)414-3990
Fax: (850)487-2564

Please visit http://www.terrisfight.org in addition to contacting Jeb and his legal team,
etc. Also contact the news media and other caring individuals who will do the same.

Petition count at over 80,000.

http://www.friendsofterri.org/petition.html

Thank you. Keep telling others.

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:40:07 -0000
From: ninanna2000
Subject: Im able to eat today but terri's starving

Please forgive me its been awhile
since I have been on. I have been trying to get my buisness off the
ground, and finally have started to progress. Anyway I wanted to
share something with you today Terri needs our help.... let me share
an email with you about it.. please help
her with your light and your voice pass this on to everyone one you
know the more witnesses to this crime the better until next time
Peace and
Understanding Cat

A criminal investigation needs to be conducted by John Ashcroft.
Please demand of President Bush to initiate an investigation so
that Mr. Ashcroft can get involved:

President George W. Bush
c/o
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20500
Voice: (202)456-1111
Switchboard: (202)456-1414
Fax: 1 202 456 2883
TTY/TDD
Comments: 202-456-6213
Visitors Office: 202-456-2121

Although you'll get an automated response, here
are the e-mails for GW and Cheney:

President George W. Bush:
president@whitehouse.gov

Vice President Richard Cheney:
vice.president@whitehouse.gov
Fax: 1 202 456 2710

United States Attorney General John Ashcroft:
(AskDOJ@usdoj.gov)
Fax:202/514-1009

U.S. Senate:

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

AN EMAIL SENT, REQUESTING AN INVESTIGATION BY HOMELAND SECURITY
DEPARTMENT:
Subject: Homeland Security needed in Florida - Thousands of citizens
at risk
WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON IN FLORIDA???????

The Homeland Security Dept should hold an immediate investigation
into the mirky circumstances surrounding the Forced Euthanasia of a
39 year old Pinellas County woman.

Documented sources show that Terri Schiavo suffered a collapse at the
age of 26 under mysterious circumstances.

Since that time, her spouse (of 3 years at that time) sued and won a
malpractice award resulting in a 300K award to him for loss of
consortium, and 750K to Terri Schiavo for her rehabiliation.

Several questions of legality abound here:

1) Why has none of Terri's 750 K been spent on efforts to
rehabilitate her?

2) Why has Terri's spouse ordered that Terri not be given normal
rehabilatation that would be afforded most persons in her situation?

3) Why is Michael Schiavo still allowed to be Terri's legal guardian
even though he has a domestic partner and 2 children by said partner?

Terri briefly did have the service of Richard L. Pearse, Esq.,
appointed by the court in 1998.,br> Attorney Pearse was dismissed
from the case by the state court on motion by George J. Felos, Esq.,
the non-party co-conspirator herein, after the former filed a report
concluding that Michael Schiavo had an irreconcilable conflict of
interest due to Schiavo's relationship with another woman, his
financial stake in Terri's death, and the fact that he tried to let
Terri die of a urinary tract infection in 1993.

4) Why has Terri been kept in a Hospice for since March or April
2000, when Hospice' is meant for terminally ill patients, not
disabled persons who can be rehabilatated.

5) Why is medicaid paying for Terri, someone who is not certified
Terminally Ill to be kept in a hospice? When her husband drives a
recent model Mercedes, owns a home with a pool, has an insurance
corporation, and earns good income?

7) Why isn't Michael Schiavo paying the hospice bill if he is Terri's
husband? He has income and assets, or is he hiding his assets with
his in-active insurance company that has its office at his residence?

6) Shouldn't Michael Schiavo return the malpractice funds that were
to be used for Terri's rehabiliation? Surely the mal-practice award
was not intended to be used as a vehicle to have Terri's life ended.

7) Why isn't the media allowed to see Terri in her room at the
Hospice?

8) Why is the Suncoast Hospice allowed to even be open, when it has 3
lawsuits against it for various mis appropriations of patients funds
and donations, and for sexual harassment? Isn't it mis appropriating
the governments funds now, by billing medicaid for a non-terminal
patient?

9) Why is Suncoast Hospice allowed to knowingly employ convicted
embezzlers in its financial department? One said embezzler had just
been released from prison.

10) Why is Judge Greer allowed to preside over this case when it is
clear that he has conflicts of interest, such as having served on the
board of hospice (with big salary), as has Michael Schiavo's
attorney, Felos? (Felos served as Chairman of Hospice Board). It
would seem to me that those very ties to a board overseeing a Hospice
that is rife with improprieties would be a red flag.

11) Why has Judge Greer banned Terri's parents from videotaping her,
tape recording her, and photographing her? Is this so that he can
preserve the false image that Terri is in a coma or in a vegetative
state???
This is important evidence that Terri is not in a persistent
vegetative state and is responsive to her family and friends. This
includes evidence that Terri can get out a few words, and that she
WANTS TO LIVE! video.
Since when was a judge supposed to suppress the truth?

12) Why is Michael Schiavo's word taken that Terri would not want to
be kept alive with artificial means, when her own family and friends
never heard her to say such things. Since when was heresay enough to
take the place of a living will?
Especially since Michael Schiavo has contradicted himself greatly by
suing for rehabilitative funds for Terri and then not using them to
do so? His veracity is dubvious at best.

13) Why isn't Michael Schiavo being investigated for being the
possible cause of Terri's collapse, since medical records (later
discovered) have come to light that Terri's initial injuries suggest
strangulation? R/E bone scan.

14) Why isn't Terri given the option of refusing rehabiliation, and
the option to refuse food herself?

15) Why has Michael Schiavo ordered an immediate cremation of Terri
Schiavo's body once she dies?

16) Why doesnt the State prevent that and order an immediate autopsy
of Terri's body, or better yet, prevent her death so as to not need
one?

17) Does the state of Florida plan to start putting disabled people
into Hospice facilities now? Then to kill them?

18) When did the state of Florida sink so low in its compassion for
the disabled?

19) Why is the state of Florida, and ultimately the United States of
America allowing itself to sink so low that other sovereign countries
feel compelled to offer asylum to one of our disabled?
And to offer treatment at no cost?
Where is our decency, our humanity, our sense of shame?
Why does our country give up its greatness so cheaply?????

20) At what cost, moral and ethical, does the state of Florida, and
the country of the United States allow the forced euthanasia of a
disabled person? Of any person. How far have we sunk as a nation???

PERHAPS A BOYCOTT OF FLORIDA IS THE BEST THING FOR ANYONE WHO IS
CONSIDERING BECOMING DISABLED ESPECIALLY IF THEY HAVE A BAD MARRIAGE.

Please kindly respond.

The fundamental policy issue at stake is whether or not the state can
deprive a person with a disability of life because their medical need
has become too expensive or some members of the family are no longer
willing to care. The state stands on a slippery slope. Without
caution, the slope leads to a precipice and the precipice leads to
death for Terri Schiavo and all like her.
http://www.dimenet.com/hotnews/cgi/getlink.cgi?3351R


ACTIONS FOR TODAY INCLUDE:

Continue to email the Governor, cc your media contacts, and cc the
representatives in Florida and elsewhere. Make sure that your subject
line has the basic message, not just "r/e terri schiavo"
Call for an investigation.

GO TO WWW.TERRISFIGHT.ORG AND SIGN THE PETITION. Have all of your
family members sign it. Email your friends and ask them to sign it.

SUGGESTION FOR EMAILS TO GOV AND MEDIA CONTACTS:

They may only read the subject line of your email since they are
getting gazillions of them right now.

So - make sure the subject line has impact!

Also, make sure you copy all the gov reps and media contacts that you
have, to emphasize that the WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!

Example:

Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "@yahoo.com> |
Subject: Legitimacy of U.S. Govt Tainted by the Forced "Euthanasia"
of Terri Schiavo, a viable human being To: "jeb" , "jeb"
, "Sengraham" , hill.anthony.web@flsenate.gov,
jones.dennis.web@flsenate.gov, king.james.web@flsenate.gov,
klein.ron.web@flsenate.gov, lawson.alfred.web@flsenate.gov Dear Gov
Bush:

The world is waiting to see what you do to save your state from being
a part of his killing of a viable woman.
If you would intervene on Terri Schiavo's behalf, I would be able to
believe that you are a decent man, worthy of being in public office.
You would gain my support in your future endeavors
Hundreds of thousands of folks would be grateful to you.

Do something, anything, call upon your brother, the President of the
most powerful country in the world, and therefore the most POWERFUL
person in the world, and ask him to intervene.

What must the world think of the United States, to commit an obvious
mis-carriage of the law?

This must cast even further shadow over the legitimacy of the
government in the United States.

This is akin to civil court approved murder.

NOW THE ENTIRE WORLD HAS SEEN ON TV THAT TERRI SCHIAVO IS NOT A DUMB
BLIND UNFEELING VEGETABLE.

NOW THEY CAN SEE THE EVIL THAT HAS OVERTAKEN THE JUDICIARY SYSTEM IN
FLORIDA.

PLEASE ASK PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TO HAVE HIS LEGAL TEAM AND HOMELAND
SECURITY DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATE MICHAEL SCHIAVO FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER,
MEDICAID FRAUD, TAX EVASION, AND CONSPIRACY.

PLEASE HAVE JUDGE GREER REMOVED FROM THIS CASE, BECAUSE FOR ONE - HE
IS LEGALLY BLIND AND COULD NOT VIEW THE EVIDENCE, AND TWO, HE IS NOT
A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL JUDGE (CONNECTIONS TO ATTY FELOS VIA SERVING ON
BOARD OF HOSPICE TOGETHER)
IT IS WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!KEEP THE PRESSURE
UP!!!!!!!!!!I think the tide will turn if you don't give up. 10/16/03
Governor Bush Promises to Do Everything Possible to Save TerriNew
developement in the Terri Schiavo case as the Pinellas Park woman is
in her first full day without nourishment. But this case is far from
over: see BayNews9 her parents clung to hope for a legal reversal and
Gov.Jeb Bush promised to help. "Wednesday's removal came just hours
after Bush told the Schindlers that he was instructing his legal
staff to find some means to block a court order allowing Michael
Schiavo to...

http://www.baynews9.com/site/NewsStory.cfm?storyid=26211

Jeb can send in the guard right now, protective services, and/or the
police.
839 posted on 10/17/2003 7:10:00 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is http://www.terrisfight.org . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: strela
I have seen the video, and I have perused that web site several times. And, I have seen NOTHING from a medical or legal standpoint that would sway me to overturn Judge Greer's decision in this matter.

Terri's clear effort to show the doctor that she heard and UNDERSTOOD the doctor's command does not move you?

Then you must have a singularly closed mind and a heart of stone.

840 posted on 10/17/2003 7:10:56 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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