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Jeb Bush CAN STOP death of TERRI SCHIAVO !!! CALL!!!
http://www.terrisfight.org ^ | pollywog

Posted on 10/16/2003 9:46:46 AM PDT by pollywog

I chose to put this on Breaking News because it just came on as Breaking NEWS on her website. PLEASE ,PLEASE go to the website http://www.terrisfight.org and read the letters that have just been sent to Jeb Bush in regards to the Terri Schiavo case. JEB BUSH can LEGALLY STOP THIS. CALL his office, CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, CALL and email the media.THE CLOCK is ticking to save her life.

Sorry if this post isn't " polished" and " refined" but I am not a seasoned " poster" here on FR.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; florida; jebbush; terrischiavo
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To: proud American in Canada
"If she is incapacitated, the decision is her husband's to make, NOT her parents. Parents lost legal standing when she married."

If he didn't lose legal standing over her when he tried to strangle her, then he certainly lost it when he moved in with his "girlfriend"(second wife) seven years ago and now has 1 child with her and a second on the way.

1,221 posted on 10/17/2003 3:15:08 PM PDT by SwordofTruth
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To: SwordofTruth
" then he certainly lost it when he moved in with his "girlfriend"(second wife) seven years ago and now has 1 child with her and a second on the way."

I don't know the facts of the case--and I don't know Florida law--but this guy sounds like a horrible person. Obviously, he wants Terri out of the way.
1,222 posted on 10/17/2003 3:17:56 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: mtbopfuyn
Correct. It's just a guess on my part.
1,223 posted on 10/17/2003 3:19:18 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: pollywog
Have you heard any more on the possible intervening of POTUS Bush?? or was that a dead end street??

I haven't heard anything more yet. I just emailed my contact to ask if there's any new information on it, but given the discouraging events in court today, and the information in post 1189, I'm not feeling particularly optimistic.

The man is a coward. He's lived the good life, and he doesn't want to offend anyone; at least not anyone that matters. Unfortunately, his universe of "anyones" that matter seems to be limited to his political opposition, i.e., the pro-death camp, AKA "the left".

This is typical GOP behavior. Pander to the opposition, and kick your supporters in the teeth. I honestly believe there is something pathological driving this need to be "liked" by the liberals. The day the GOP stops trying to prove to the left that "we're really nice guys" will be the day they accomplish something positive.

Until then, their main purpose in life seems to be to make used car dealers look like paragons of virtue.

1,224 posted on 10/17/2003 3:19:28 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Coincidence!


Date set for Mother Teresa's beatification


The Vatican has announced that the Pope has chosen 19 October - the 25th anniversary of his pontificate - as the date for the beatification of Mother Teresa.

The announcement was made by Cardinal Crescenzio Sepe of the Congregation for the Evangelisation of Peoples during a press conference called to present World Mission Day 2003.

Mother Teresa qualified for beatification after Vatican officials acknowledged that she was responsible for a miracle in which an Indian woman was cured of stomach cancer through her intervention.

Mother Teresa, who founded the Missionaries of Charity, died on September 5, 1997 at the age of 87.

According to church law, the beatification process cannot begin until at least five years after a candidate has died. But Pope John Paul personally intervened to waive the waiting period for the beatification of Mother Teresa.

1,225 posted on 10/17/2003 3:21:17 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: trustandobey
Ping to post 1189 for an update.
1,226 posted on 10/17/2003 3:21:41 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: iowamomforfreedom
He may have the right to pull her feeding tube, as it is considered artificial life support, but he cannot deny her right to eat through her mouth.

Wanna bet?

How much money you prepared to lay on the line?

Warning: this is a sucker bet.

1,227 posted on 10/17/2003 3:22:24 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: pollywog
bump
1,228 posted on 10/17/2003 3:25:49 PM PDT by DeepInEnemyTerritory
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To: Ohioan from Florida
I'm heartbroken.
1,229 posted on 10/17/2003 3:29:20 PM PDT by trustandobey
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To: diamond6
Oh, I thought it was Saturday (the feast of St. Luke is tomorrow, the 18th). So Sunday is the day for her beatification. Well, we should continue to pray for any intercessor to intervene on Terri's behalf, whether their name is Teresa or not! Mother Teresa would have given Terri food and water, maybe she is from up in heaven! She would do it if Jesus told her to.
1,230 posted on 10/17/2003 3:33:29 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: trustandobey
Me, too. Praying and waiting expectantly for a miracle to happen!
1,231 posted on 10/17/2003 3:34:46 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Well you're sort of right, they are many hours ahead of us. It will probably happen in the morning so that would be Saturday night for us. So, actually you are right!
1,232 posted on 10/17/2003 3:36:10 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: yesnettv
"If you could call on those legal guys in Fla and ask them to step in and offer emergency help, they would love it!

Looks like we might be losing.

There has got to be something else that can be done> What?"

Ok, reality world 101. I hate what I am about to type.

I think we have lost. I think a system failed Terri. I think she will die within 48 hours, not from starvation, but from dehydration.

As much as we hate to admit it, we must acknowledge that Terri was and is a very ill woman. The best legal minds on the Gov's team concluded there was nothing he could legally do, and they are entirely correct.

That said, If I was running the family legal team, I would be making an equity argument to the sitting justice of the USSC covering this circuit.

My position on this would be an equity position and ask for a stay, just as they do in execution cases. The concept of a stay is; the full court may not agree with my final argument but if this woman dies, then my argument will be moot. Keep her alive, at least until you can hear my argument(S)

I would be making equity arguments. (see prior postings)

I would ensure that many of the whackos we have seen on TV, supposedly supporting Terri, but like the Elian case, just looking for personal face time, were off the air and stayed off. All this talk about fixes, criminal charges, crooked judges, "new age" cures, just makes our side like whacos some of us are.

Then, while the legal case was proceeding, in a delaying mode, I would ask the Gov to convene the legislature in special session and pass a "Presumption of Desire to Preserve Life Bill."

That bill would put the onus on the person wanting to end life to present "clear and convincing evidence", perhaps even "clear and uncontroverted evidence" that ending life support was called for, as opposed to the typical less-stringent "preponderance of the evidence" civil standard.

It would give special standing to relatives who are willing to care for, (and pay for the caring for) a relative. It would not ban all life support termination (it shouldn't), but would give greater weight to those who wish to continue life.

I think it would pass very quickly, with some Democrat opposition. The Dems would want state payment for all terminal care, so the law would not "discriminate" against "poor people."

Jeb would sign it in a hearbeat. Their might be an ex-post facto problem getting it passed in this case, but it's certainly better than the current options.

My sad best guess is that we will not win this one, but like the Cubbies, concentrate on the next one.
1,233 posted on 10/17/2003 3:39:30 PM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
1233

MUST READ
1,234 posted on 10/17/2003 3:42:07 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: Don Joe
In summary, I find you, and your smug patter to be disgusting.

I find it a shame that your desire to acheive 15 minutes of fame had you giving such bad advice to the family... if that is even remotely true. Personally, I think they looked too smart to be suckered in by you.

How smart can someone like you be to want to take credit for this sad, cruel fiasco?

Doesn't the family have enough problems without you using their daughter's death to do your "ashes and sackcloth - last angry man" routine?

Have you no decency, Sir?
Have you no shame?

1,235 posted on 10/17/2003 3:47:00 PM PDT by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, stay tuned to your local FReeper Network station)
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To: diamond6
You have mail!
1,236 posted on 10/17/2003 3:47:35 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: mtbopfuyn
No, Jeb has his sights beyond FL: the IA cauci and the NH primary in 2008. He doesn't run only in FL again. I would imagine that he will persuade millions to support him.
1,237 posted on 10/17/2003 3:49:15 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: HELLRAISER II
That photo is of physicist, Dr. Steven Hawking.

I respect that you are expressing your opinion.

My point was - who are we to be so arrogant (no offense intended) as to decide the quality of life inside a failed body.

Hawking has the benefit of having become able to express the brilliance of his mind using computers and voice synthesis.

Would he want to live if he couldn't? Would THAT be inhuman torture to him - to be trapped with brilliant thoughts and no way to express them?

I don't know. He may. I wonder if anybody ever asked him or if he ever expressed an opinion on euthanasia. But, the point is that just as we have no physical knowledge of afterlife, we have no knowledge of another's mind or any measures it may take to survive within itself.

1,238 posted on 10/17/2003 3:53:02 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: Don Joe
Yes, I know, I have been following this for weeks and know that this whole thing is one big tangle of corruption. My thinking is that this should have been pursued in criminal court, instead of civil court. Judge Greer has had complete say-so because everything has been litigated through him. Terri's attorney's motions have all been to him. His bias is breathtakingly obvious, so the whole thing has been an exercise in futility. It may be too late, I realize, but what other options are there? I was just wondering if this has been tried.

I don't have the statute handy, but I know the law is listed pertaining to guardianship rules. I also realized a long time ago that Greer does not care a whit for the laws, and the higher courts refuse to admit that Greer is either corrupt or inept. But perhaps there is someone in the criminal court system that actually has some morals. I doubt it, but who knows? I was just wondering if it has been tried?
1,239 posted on 10/17/2003 3:53:33 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
Instead of going after the judge, why can't Michael be charged with neglect? This could be a new case, as he is now in violation of the Florida guardianship law that states a guardian cannot deny basic care (food and water) to their ward. He may have the right to pull her feeding tube, as it is considered artificial life support, but he cannot deny her right to eat through her mouth.

I think that is what they were asking Gov. Bush to do.....

1,240 posted on 10/17/2003 3:54:17 PM PDT by pollywog
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