Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Too Late for Hillary?
NewsMax ^ | 10/16/03 | Limbacher

Posted on 10/16/2003 8:10:48 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

In 1968, Vice President Hubert Humphrey snagged the Democratic Party presidential nomination without winning a single primary. And before his assassination that same year, New York Sen. Robert Kennedy was the odds-on favorite to win his party's nod, even though he entered the race with just five months to go before the convention.

Still, some political experts are saying that for New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, time has just about run out for her to get into the 2004 race.

Oct. 4 "was the 12th anniversary of Bill Clinton running," Democratic Party spokeswoman Deborah DeShong told Fox News earlier this week. "So most people have seen that date as a benchmark as the latest date a candidate could get in the race to win."

DeShong isn't alone in warning that the clock is ticking for any Hillary 2004 presidential campaign.

"It’s legally practically impossible for anybody, certainly after the turn of the year, to come in and win,” said Donald Robinson, professor of government at Smith College.

John J. Pitney Jr., professor of government at Claremont McKenna College, gives Sen. Clinton a little more time, but not much.

"Theoretically, a candidate could win a nomination without running in New Hampshire, but it is hard to see how such a route would lead to the White House,” he told Fox News.

But is it really so hard to envision a successful presidential bid by someone who enters the race after New Hampshire? After all, while both President Bush and his predecessor, Mrs. Clinton's husband, ran in Granite State's primary, they both lost.

What's more, when Bill Clinton entered the race in Oct. 1991 he was a complete unknown who needed time to build a national organization, name recognition and win over the party's big money donors.

Mrs. Clinton faces no such obstacles.

She has a campaign organization warming up in the bullpen while ostensibly working for Gen. Wesley Clark. She raises more money with the snap of her fingers than any other Democrat except for her husband. And she's the most recognizable elected politician in the world, with the possible exception of President Bush.

During the 1992 race, the nomination wasn't considered settled till New York's April primary. Even then, more than a few Democrats griped that making Clinton their standard bearer would lead to disaster.

As the state's make-or-break primary approached, former New York City Mayor Ed Koch used his WABC Radio show to beg party leaders to find someone else.

"It happens that Bill Clinton has no credibility," Koch complained at the time.

Even though New York Gov. Mario Cuomo had taken a pass on the New Hampshire primary, and had repeatedly told reporters that he wasn't interested in running, speculation still swirled that he would enter the race as the party's white knight - and somehow steal the nomination away from the "Comeback Kid."

While conventional wisdom suggests that the 2004 Democratic nomination will be a done deal by New Hampshire or shortly thereafter, some say that the nominee won't be a lock until the convention in July.

"The contest for next year's Democratic presidential nomination will be the most unpredictable in half a century," wrote New York Times op-ed columnist Ashbel Green a few months ago.

"There is no front-runner now, and there is not likely to be one by next March, the time that most political experts and journalists usually figure the issue will be decided."

Green sees the possibility of a brokered convention "if several candidates remain in play in July 2004, when the delegates convene in Boston."

And if that happens, guess who'll be ready to assume the role of Democratic Party white knight this time.



TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; hillary; limbacher; president
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-96 next last

1 posted on 10/16/2003 8:10:48 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Too late for Hillary?

One can only hope...

2 posted on 10/16/2003 8:13:56 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Too Late for Hillary?"

Well, I certainly HOPE SO!!!!

3 posted on 10/16/2003 8:14:43 AM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, the Hildabeast, Mistress of ALL Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Anyone who thinks it's too late for Hitlery to enter should look at Arnold, who entered a mere 7 weeks before the election and won it despite a second major Republican being on the ballot. Hitlery commands the 'rats at least as well.
4 posted on 10/16/2003 8:15:17 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
FYI..when asked to comment on the article, Gen Clark announced that he would NOT take a position..
5 posted on 10/16/2003 8:15:28 AM PDT by ken5050
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
She ain't gonna run...not with the economy coming and the UN vote giving cover to our Iraq policy now...it's gonna be a Dubya landslide...and Crusty knows it.
6 posted on 10/16/2003 8:15:49 AM PDT by Keith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Never too late. The nominee could have an unfortunate accident next September.
7 posted on 10/16/2003 8:16:01 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Too Late for Hillary?

Hope all you want, folks. It's far from too late for Hillary to snag the nomination. But, only if Dubya becomes extremely vulnerable.

8 posted on 10/16/2003 8:16:51 AM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. WORDS MEAN THINGS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
There is only one "Too Late" for Hillary.
9 posted on 10/16/2003 8:22:36 AM PDT by blackdog ("This is everybody's fault but mine")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
You are talking about a Democrat. Remember the situation during the last election in New Jersry where they replaced the Tourch with some old has been after the registration cut off. The rats will use the courts to get her in if President Bush could be defeated.


10 posted on 10/16/2003 8:22:54 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Keith
I agree.

So let her run now and be defeated, maybe we can be rid of her then.

11 posted on 10/16/2003 8:23:56 AM PDT by No Blue States
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Hillary is going to replace the nominee on or about October 9, 2004. She has no interest in "running".

The Clintons need a nominee they can control, or destroy. That is the meaning of Wesley Clark.

Howard Dean, if nominated, had better stay away from Air Wellstone.

12 posted on 10/16/2003 8:26:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
No, I think bypassing as much of the normal process as possible is her normal MO exactly.
13 posted on 10/16/2003 8:28:14 AM PDT by Datahead
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #14 Removed by Moderator

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Leftists who are involved in creating Liberal martyrs may think it's time for a female one.
15 posted on 10/16/2003 8:30:41 AM PDT by Consort
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This is playing out just as I predicted a long time ago. She is working behind the scenes. Wesley Clarke came in to disrupt the lead of Howard Dean. She will dirty up anyone who appears to be in the lead. Come convention time, no one will have enough delegates, and the *itch steps in. She will have a very short campaign and will be able to avoid a lot of questions with scripted events. She will have a huge war chest, none of which had to be wasted in the primaries. And, there will be no soundbites of other RAT candidates attacking her. It is truly a brilliant strategy. The key is what she is able to do behind the scenes to screw whomever is in the lead.
16 posted on 10/16/2003 8:32:38 AM PDT by doug from upland (Arnold cannot be compared to Clinton.......Clinton is a vicious biting perjuring rapist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jim Noble
I've heard that the insurers of air charter firms are dictating that political service charters be covered by a separate rider for each flight so that the insurers have the right to yank the coverage on a case by case risk basis.

In other words, "No checks, credit, or democrats permitted" That should tell you something.

In this world of high tech, one must realize that the small wattage signals used to navigate charter aircraft (or C-130's in Kosovo) giving them instrument approach capability can be moved a half mile in a suitcase and will crash any plane doing a correct instrument approach. A false altimeter setting broadcast, or a false decend to and maintain advisory is terminal too. Screw the FAR's. If I had a rat on board, I'm using GPS and screw the regulations. To screw with GPS you've gotta have operatives in space and Hillary & Co. are not there yet. Although their Chinese friends might just help out........Forget it! No democrats on board period!

17 posted on 10/16/2003 8:38:42 AM PDT by blackdog ("This is everybody's fault but mine")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Keith
She ain't gonn run...

She will run in the 2008 election. She'll get her big butt kicked by the Republican incumbent Vice President Rice.

18 posted on 10/16/2003 8:40:19 AM PDT by ASA Vet (People have the governement they deserve.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: newgeezer
You are absolutely right Geezer.... Wesley Clark is running for Hillary.. He will offset the Dean "Far Left Juggernaut" that was on course for the nomination. The extreme left is lining up behind him.

Clark was put in position by the Clinton's to prevent Dean capturing enough votes... Clark was a "4 star General" after all and gives the nomination process a counter balance to Dean for the more moderate Democrats to latch on to... you know..the "SECURITY thing" the far left lacks...

This will prevent Dean specifically.... (the other dwarfs are nothing but also rans).... from winning the nomination.

Clark can't win it either... the core base of the party has an aversion to anything military.

That means an open convention... Hillary, who "stayed above the fray and avoided debate will be standing on the convention podium smiling as the brokered nominee...and Wesley...for his loyal primary activity will be Hillary's "National security card" on the ticket.

National Security is the D'RATS weakness... "General" Wesley will be her perfect choice for number 2.

This is all so obviously "Clintonesque"

The Clintons don't wait.. they just strong arm and stack the deck!

19 posted on 10/16/2003 8:46:32 AM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kennedy... Leahy... Moran... Kucinich........ any more "Catholic" abortion proponents... ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: coloradan
"Anyone who thinks it's too late for Hitlery to enter should look at Arnold, who entered a mere 7 weeks before the election and won it despite a second major Republican being on the ballot."

"....second major Republican..." ??

Even ignoring Tom's supporters statements regarding Arnold not being a Republican at all, his 13% showing would not seem to be "major".
The CA Republican party better be looking around for candidates who may be able to actually win elections if they want to keep the ball rolling.
We have only three years to come up with at least a person who can BEAT Cruz, and possibly one as a replacement for Arnold should he choose not to run.
20 posted on 10/16/2003 8:48:39 AM PDT by RS (nc)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-96 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson