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Feeding tube removed from comatose woman at center of long-running legal battle
Associated Press ^ | 10-15-03

Posted on 10/15/2003 12:18:18 PM PDT by Brian S

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:44:25 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; terrischiavo
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To: justshutupandtakeit
So, are you proposing death to all stroke victims who have to be spoon fed before they relearn the skill? How about those who have a head injury? Forget teaching them and/or any sort of rehab.

What you are proposing is barbaric. Am I correct in assuming that you agree with Peter Singer? --Parents should have up to a month to decide if they want their child. Yes, he means one month AFTER the birth.
481 posted on 10/15/2003 5:14:17 PM PDT by It's me
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To: floriduh voter; expatguy; Ragtime Cowgirl; lonestar; FreeTheHostages; jwfiv; Billie; Pippin; ...
First, thanks guys for fixing my typo on my post number when you repinged my post.

Second and most importantly, freeper expatguy had an AWESOME idea. He suggested FREEPERS go to the hospital to feed Terri.

Now, I just spent some time on Terri's site, http://www.terrisfight.org/lead.htm , reading the court papers that were posted. I can't find ANYTHING (I could be wrong) that says Terri can't have visitors. This is why court orders were implemented against her family and that priest. Can she have visitors then? Anyone know legal stuff?

If she can have visitors I'll forward this info through the American Legion and what ever other contacts I can find. Are their Freepers in Florida close enough to this hospital? Can you imagine if we can get different volunteers daily to go see Terri and try to feed her?

I think freeper expatguy has an awesome grassroot moment idea. I'm unfortunately in NJ; but I would be at that hospital in a "New York Minute" (expression) to try to feed her.
482 posted on 10/15/2003 5:17:02 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: cateizgr8
You can quote a hundred news stories, cateizgf8! It looks like they are all rephrasing the story from the same source. Does that make it the truth?
483 posted on 10/15/2003 5:19:38 PM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: EggsAckley
"cake, he's a broken record. Refuses to confuse his predetermined opinions with facts. I've tried. *sigh* "

Hmmmm...you should submit that to Webster's Dictionary as a definition of "troll".

484 posted on 10/15/2003 5:19:45 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
LOL!
485 posted on 10/15/2003 5:20:44 PM PDT by EggsAckley (..........................God Bless and Keep Terri.....................)
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To: It's me
"So, are you proposing death to all stroke victims who have to be spoon fed before they relearn the skill? How about those who have a head injury? Forget teaching them and/or any sort of rehab."

Hubby was comatose for eight months after a terrible accident. He received intravenus nourishment, which could be defined as a "life prolonging measure". At some point, people like him will not be allowed the chance to wake up.

486 posted on 10/15/2003 5:22:37 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Roarkdude
Sad.

Not the word I would have chosen.

This is truly a scary time to be alive in America.

Has anyone been arrested trying to stop this?

We are now seeing the Fourth Reich arising.

Lord have mercy.

487 posted on 10/15/2003 5:23:04 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
This isn't the America I've loved all my life... what the hell is happening??!!
488 posted on 10/15/2003 5:24:35 PM PDT by angelwings49
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To: Calpernia
I'm just curious...how often did this "loving" husband visit his wife? He's already moved on, and LONG ago!

IMO, the only ties he has to Terri are those which would implicate him if she ever talked.

I am so sick over this. I wonder what bar he's hanging out at tonight.

(sorry FReepers...I am just so darn angry)
489 posted on 10/15/2003 5:25:12 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"merely wonder about the motivation of people ready to keep her "alive" at all costs."

As the mother of a lovely daughter myself and based on the information I have read about this case, I will make an effort to respond to that.

If my daughter suffered some kind of trauma that led to her being severely compromised and there were doctors who offered hope that she could regain some level of functionality as far as motor skills and communication and she was married to a man who refused to allow any effort to be made on her behalf to even discover to what extent she might be rehabilitated, that SOB would have a real problem with me! These parents must be enduring unimaginable frustration in addition to their grief. Mr Schiavo should be d*#m thankful that they are people of faith, or his @$$ would have probably been taken out long ago.

Oh, were you also aware that her priest was denied access to her some weeks ago as well?

490 posted on 10/15/2003 5:28:55 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Why do people want to artificial prolong the "life" of this lady?

I'll try to be polite here. Familiarize yourself with the case and with the issue as a whole. There is a world's difference between being legally braindead and only living because of a machine that breathes for you and a tube that feeds you vs. being conscious, responsive to stimuli, but unable to swallow on your own. A galaxy's difference, more like it.

It makes Terri not much different than a severely retarded person, or even someone who's been wiped out by a stroke.

If this were to happen to me I would hope that those who love me would not subject me to such a procedure.

"such a procedure" = feeding someone. The horrors. I'm going to chalk this up to your ignorance of the case.

Fear of death seems to accompany a materialistic view of the universe.

How is merely living a materialistic thing???? If anything, you're the materialistic sounding person, saying life isn't worth living if it isn't "normal" as we largely middle class Americans see it. Is life something to try to escape, in your opinion?
491 posted on 10/15/2003 5:31:06 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: sweetliberty
BTTT
492 posted on 10/15/2003 5:31:14 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: sweetliberty
Great post. Couldn't have said it better.
493 posted on 10/15/2003 5:31:53 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Calpernia
Ideas worth trying, Calpernia!
494 posted on 10/15/2003 5:32:16 PM PDT by Libertina (Steadfast loyalty - The sign of a true friend and leader.)
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To: SpaceBar
State sanctioned murder. Step right up folks, get your tickets here...

Yep. It's coming, just use the Netherlands as your leading indicator. Hospitals these days there have turned into execution mills.
495 posted on 10/15/2003 5:32:46 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: EggsAckley
Maybe his initials are MS??
496 posted on 10/15/2003 5:33:11 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: erikm88
I ask any of the ignorant people/bastards on this thread saying Terri should be killed if they feel the same about kids born severely brain damaged. And if so, why not blow their heads off with a shotgun since they are so worthless.

I'd also ask them how they can be pro-life when they support state sanctioned murder of the infirm.
497 posted on 10/15/2003 5:35:46 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: spectre; justshutupandtakeit
"She would be long dead without medical intervention"..

Huh? My friend who goes thru dialysis 3 days a week, because his kidneys are shot. He'd be dead in a week without "medical intervention".

I had cancer until 6 months ago and I'm only in my 20s. Without chemotherapy and radiation treatments I'd be dead instead of sitting here typing this. You made a good point.
498 posted on 10/15/2003 5:38:06 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die
HUH? What is John Kasich smoking? vegetative state? God help this country.
499 posted on 10/15/2003 5:39:52 PM PDT by Lovergirl (Prayers for Terri Schiavo. .She is NOT comatose or PVS. She's alive ... www.terrisfight.org)
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To: yonif
"I really do not understand what the Husband's problem is with allowing this woman to stay alive....."

Primary answer: money
Secondary answer: mistress
Pure speculation: Terri regains memory and fingers him (of course, barring a miracle that would probably be impossible, but it may have been a precipitating factor in his initial resistance to allowing her treatment....and besides, why take the chance?)

500 posted on 10/15/2003 5:45:21 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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