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‘Never lie to me’: Bush to Daschle
The Hill ^ | 10/15/03 | Albert Eisele

Posted on 10/14/2003 6:27:34 PM PDT by Jean S

A new memoir by Minority Leader Tom Daschle says Senate Democrats were actively courting two Republicans — John McCain of Arizona and Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island — as most likely to switch parties and give them control of the evenly divided Senate when Jim Jeffords of Vermont informed them he was ready to do so.

The heretofore untold sequence of events that led to Jeffords’ dramatic decision to bolt the Republican Party in May 2001 and become an Independent is disclosed for the first time in Daschle’s book, which covers the tumultuous two-year period following President Bush’s disputed election in November, 2000.

The book by the South Dakota Democrat, Like No Other Time: The 107th Congress and the Two Years That Changed America Forever, was written with co-author Michael D’Orso and is scheduled to be published next month.

The details of Jeffords’s decision, which ruptured his ties with the White House and many GOP colleagues and made Daschle majority leader, are among a number of insights Daschle provides into the inner workings of the Senate, his reaction to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and the bioterrorism attack that exposed 20 of his aides to deadly anthrax spores and caused the Hart Senate Office building to be closed for months.

Daschle also offers some harsh judgments of congressional Republicans and the Republican Party as well as veiled criticism of Vice President Al Gore and several Democratic Senate colleagues.

They include:

• His “complex and layered” relationship with the man he replaced as majority leader, Trent Lott (R-Miss.), who he said was so shocked by losing control of the Senate “that he could hardly finish a sentence” and could not accept the fact he had to share power in a 50-50 Senate.

• His admission that he initially underestimated George W. Bush and his grudging concession that he “is an undeniably effective communicator, not unlike Ronald Reagan” who “knows where he stands and is smart enough to understand what he needs to do in order to frame and express his stance on a particular subject.”

• His implicit criticism of Gore’s personality: “Al Gore’s breadth and depth of knowledge, his experience, his grasp of the issue were clearly superior [to Bush]. But people liked Bush.” However, he credits Gore with acting in the nation’s best interests by not challenging the results of the 2000 election.

• His undisguised concern about “the rabidly fierce ideology” and “crusader-like zeal” of Bush’s top advisers, including Vice President Cheney, Karl Rove, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Undersecretary Paul Wolfowitz, among others.

• His disappointment with “moderate” Democratic colleagues such as Zell Miller of Georgia, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Max Baucus of Montana, John Breaux of Louisiana, Evan Bayh of Indiana and Tom Carper of Delaware for their willingness to go along with Bush and the Republicans on key issues.

• His low opinion of his former Senate colleague, John Ashcroft (R-Mo.), whose fitness to serve as attorney general he questions because he has “openly and defiantly used the power of his positions to advance his right-wing ideology.”

• His disdain for former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) who he said was bent on “demonizing” Democrats and portraying them as not only wrong or misguided but “evil,” and his scathing criticism of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), whom he accused of ruling “by fear, by discouraging any form of dissent among his membership, and by punishing those who dare to disagree.”

• His revelation that he intended to run for president himself in 2004 until he decided, after enduring “excruciating” inner turmoil, that he did not want to risk giving up his Senate seat and could not run for president and lead his caucus “in a new Senate that had an aggressive and extremely empowered Republican majority.”

Daschle also recounts his meeting with President-elect Bush in his Capitol office in January 2001.

“Until then, I never noticed his Texas swagger,” Daschle writes. “Perhaps it was the fact that in order to enter my suite in the Capitol, you actually need to pass through a set of swinging saloon-style doors. The combination of Bush’s confident strut, his self-assured manner, and those saloon doors swinging shut behind him all combined to create an image of a new sheriff in town. Which, in essence, he was.”

Nevertheless, Daschle confesses that he was troubled when Bush, after expressing the hope that they could work together as closely as Bush had with Bob Bullock, his Democratic lieutenant governor in Texas, said, “I hope you’ll never lie to me.”

“That statement caught me up short. What an unusual concern to express in such a meeting.… I’ve often wondered since then what George Bush might have been told about me that would make him begin this conversation, this relationship, from an implied position of mistrust.”

The catalyst for Jeffords’ decision in May 2001 was a meeting in late March between him and Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Daschle writes.

The two men met in Dodd’s office on a Friday afternoon in late March “to discuss an amendment on child care. But they wound up talking about Jim’s friction with Bush and with the Republican leadership, Daschle writes. “At one point in the conversation, Jim wondered aloud if there was any room left for him in the Republican Party.”

“Chris could hardly stay in his seat,” Daschle recounts. “As soon as Jim left, Chris got on the phone and tracked me down in my office. ‘I think there’s something going on here,’ Chris said. ‘I think we really need to begin talking to him.”

Dodd’s phone call precipitated a carefully orchestrated behind-the-scenes effort by Daschle and other Democrats, including Vermont’s Patrick Leahy, to persuade Jeffords to defect. The effort was aided by White House snubs of Jeffords and by fellow Republicans, notably Judd Gregg of New Hampshire and Pete Domenici of New Mexico, who undercut his authority as chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee.

Daschle believes that the key precipitating event occurred when Budget Committee Chairman Domenici informed him in early May that there was nothing for special education in the president’s education bill.

“That’s when I started making personal overtures, calling Jim, commiserating with him, and letting him know we were willing to talk whenever he was,” Daschle writes. “He came by my office a couple of times for brief chats … but we were very careful about that. I never came near him on the Senate floor itself or, for that matter, in any location where the press or Republican members might see us.”

Then, on the evening of Monday, May 14, Assistant Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada told Daschle that Jeffords wanted to meet with them in his hideaway office in the Capitol the next morning.

“It was 7 a.m. when Harry and I arrived at Jim’s hideaway that Tuesday morning, and Jim got right down to business. he had three primary concerns, and they could be summarized as: cows, committees and co-workers.”

Daschle agreed to oppose efforts to eliminate the government’s dairy policy and Reid volunteered to step aside so Jeffords could become chairman of the Environment and Public Works Committee, and to let him bring along all his staffers.

Daschle and Reid and their aides watched on television two days later as Jeffords announce his decision in Vermont, without knowing for certain what he would do.

“When Jim reached the point in his speech where he said, ‘I will make this change and will caucus with the Democrats for organization purposes …,’ the room exploded with cheers. You could hear us out in the halls.”


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To: Samwise
The demdimwits really do invent their own reality, don't they?!
61 posted on 10/14/2003 8:22:56 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo (When serving iced tea at meetings about money, move the gathering to the john to accomodate algore.)
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To: JeanS
OK, South Dakota. Next time this idiot comes up for reelection, do your duty for your country. Help us all while you help yourselves.
62 posted on 10/14/2003 8:40:23 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: JeanS
Who's Tom Daschle? I seem to remember that name from somewhere...

Hee hee hee.
63 posted on 10/14/2003 8:42:54 PM PDT by scott7278 ("If I'm not back by dawn -- call the president.")
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To: JeanS
Daschle's first book signing.
64 posted on 10/14/2003 8:48:27 PM PDT by formercalifornian
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To: JeanS
So Daschle has concerns, has disdain, and is disappointed while everybody else demonizes, rules by fear, and stifles dissent. How typical.
65 posted on 10/14/2003 8:52:40 PM PDT by MattAMiller
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To: JeanS
"I’ve often wondered since then what George Bush might have been told about me that would make him begin this conversation, this relationship, from an implied position of mistrust."

Ask your constituents, Dash-hole.
66 posted on 10/14/2003 8:53:33 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: JeanS
>>a meeting in late March between him and Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), <<

Oh yeah, I remember the tale about Chris Dodd and Teddy Kennedy. Seems as though they both got "interrupted" when they were playing "sandwich" with a waitress, upstairs in a Georgetown restaurant.

Is it any wonder Bush trusts NONE of them?
67 posted on 10/14/2003 9:27:22 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: irv
By putting down members of their own party who disagree with them even more ruthlessly than they deal with the other party.

No offense my friend, but you're starting to sound like Daschole talking about some of the good ones.

and his scathing criticism of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), whom he accused of ruling “by fear, by discouraging any form of dissent among his membership, and by punishing those who dare to disagree.”

69 posted on 10/14/2003 9:41:20 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: JeanS
“I hope you’ll never lie to me.”

“That statement caught me up short. What an unusual concern to express in such a meeting.… I’ve often wondered since then what George Bush might have been told about me that would make him begin this conversation, this relationship, from an implied position of mistrust.”

".....an implied positionof mistrust" COUNT ON IT MR. PRESIDENT! And, shoot you in the back as you walked back out of the Dascle Saloon!

70 posted on 10/14/2003 9:46:45 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9
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To: ExGuru
I'v always been amazed no one asked Gore to apologize for his actions in Florida. His whole case was that, if you recounted those few counties, he would win. When the newspapers did a calm, sober recount the result was that Gore was wrong. The votes simply weren't there. He should have apologized for putting the country through 36 days of uncertainty and partisan nastiness for no good reason.

It's also amazing no one pointed out the stupidity of his concession speech. There he said: "I accept the decision of the Supreme Court." Duh! What else could you do - go to the World Court? It was one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

71 posted on 10/14/2003 10:14:20 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: Lancey Howard
What is this "hideaway office" thing?

Good descriptions by some of the other posters but some additional information. A "hideaway" office is a private office for a senator usually found in the basement or lower levels of the U.S. Capitol building. It's the space where legislators and other capitol functions used to have their primary offices (way back in history when government was a lot smaller and there were fewer states to represent) before all of the auxiliary office buildings were built across the street from the Capitol, etc.

Back in the days when you could wander around unescorted, you could walk down hallways and see nothing other than an office number on the outside of a wooden door. When I was walking by with guests one time, a door opened and we got a brief glimpse of what looked to be something akin to what you'd have in your family room--sitting chairs, a couple of sofas, etc. No doubt some use it as their private "interview" or "party" rooms and would probably end up sleeping there to be close to the floor if the Republicans ever decide to have a "real" filibuster.

Another perk paid for by us taxpayers...

72 posted on 10/14/2003 10:32:13 PM PDT by Skybird
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To: river rat
Dasshole, Kennedy, Clinton, Schumer, Byrd, Hollings, Levin, Edwards, Graham, etc......

Don't forget Fineschweine and Boxer of Cullyfornia.
73 posted on 10/14/2003 10:49:57 PM PDT by donmeaker (Bigamy is one wife too many. So is monogamy.)
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To: Diplomat
As Mark Twain said: "The United States has no native criminal class,









excepting Congress."
74 posted on 10/14/2003 10:51:17 PM PDT by donmeaker (Bigamy is one wife too many. So is monogamy.)
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To: RobFromGa
• His revelation that he intended to run for president himself in 2004 until he decided, after enduring “excruciating” inner turmoil, that he did not want to risk giving up his Senate seat and could not run for president and lead his caucus “in a new Senate that had an aggressive and extremely empowered Republican majority.”

For someone who is concerned with risking his Senate seat .. Dashole seems to do a bang up job at attacking or blaming almost everyone in the Congress

75 posted on 10/14/2003 11:06:56 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: donmeaker
"Don't forget Fineschweine and Boxer of Cullyfornia.

I'm a citizen of Kalifornicate...
It pains me too much to mention either of those two worthless %$#&%$#%.

Semper Fi

76 posted on 10/14/2003 11:15:59 PM PDT by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: JeanS
I love the description of his first encounter with Bush .. Daschle is just dripping with jealousy .. OMG this is just tooooooooo funny!
77 posted on 10/15/2003 12:57:51 AM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Diplomat
No offense my friend, but you're starting to sound like Daschole talking about some of the good ones.

Offense taken. The post I answered referenced Trent Lott - widely referred to as Traitor Lott for his determination to help Bill Clinton get away with his crimes. He was not one of the good ones. Ever.

78 posted on 10/15/2003 8:29:58 AM PDT by irv
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To: irv
Read the article again. You may have been talking about Lott, however, your quote sounds like Daschole talking about TOM DELAY, whom I consider to be one of the good ones. Sorry I didn't make that clearer.
79 posted on 10/15/2003 12:08:45 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: Diplomat
You may have been talking about Lott, however, your quote sounds like Daschole talking about TOM DELAY

Read what I responded to. I would never say anything like that about Delay. You're right. He IS one of the good ones. The similarity you note is because the Democrats have a habit of accusing others of what they know themselves to be guilty of.

80 posted on 10/15/2003 5:47:52 PM PDT by irv
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