16-year-old sentenced to 20 years in prison [addicted to OxyContin]

news-press.com ^ | 10-14-03 | news-press.com

[ambrose]

Richard Lee Daniel was 15 when he went on a crime spree that started with seven stolen vehicles and ended in the brutal beating and robbery of a 73-year-old woman.

The North Fort Myers boy is 16 now and began paying the price of his actions Monday when he was sentenced to 20 years in prison.

[Always Right]

So God are you now! King of all lesser men.

I know God gave us free will, but I did not know God was an Anarchist. When did this revolation come about?

[Moonman62]

I'd like to know where mom was while her 15 year old was out buying hard drugs, stealing cars, and beating old women. Are we supposed to believe that she didn't know anything was wrong until he got arrested for the beating?

I notice her last name doesn't match his last name. That may provide a clue.

[Moonman62]

Ricky is an extremely intelligent, loving, caring, sensitive, impressionable child,? Diane Mullins said in a note she handed to a reporter. ?Instead of any chance at rehabilitation, you are guaranteeing a hardened criminal in 20 years.?

Newsflash to mom: he's already a hardened criminal.

[bvw]

What you falsely refer to as anarchy, most ADULTS call Freedom under Rule of Law. I am not saying drugs must be freely available, just that anything a man might have and use should be available to him to use RESPONSIBLY, like an adult. The Creator simply did not make anything, (nor can man fashion from what the Creator originated) that somehow may not be used wisely. That includes opium.

We make may wise laws to regulate use, but no law is wise that bans a thing completely, nor subjects usages to the sole and complete discretion of the state or its agents.

[StriperSniper]

Dagan McDowell's report on Neil Cavuto's program

Yes, two great segments! If only the vast majority of journalism was up to those standards.

: (

P.S. - Keep an eye on Dari Alexander, I forget who it was she had on about a week ago, but when he started spinning, she ripped him a new one.

[BlackbirdSST]

And when Rush Limbaugh steals seven trucks and sets them ablaze while beating a 73-year-old granny with a flashlight, I'll be glad to throw him in prison and throw away the key.

What a disengenious statement. Rush has a vast empire with enourmous wealth. Of course he didn't steal 7 vehicles or commit other crimes in the process to support his habit, he didn't have to. But for the willfully ignorant....spin spin spin. Blackbird.

[HamiltonJay]

Yes, it is quite obvious he is going to jail for robery and assault.

However, one is not unjust to ask the question, was this just punishment given the circumstances?

It was not his addiction that put him in jail, but his actions to feed his addiction that did. Rich people don't need to rob to feed their addiction, when they are addicts... poor people often do.

The boy is 16 years old, and if indeed he is addicted to OxyContin this has to be taken into consideration during the sentencing. Were his violent acts a result of a character flaw... or were they as presented a result of addiction?

I don't know, if this is a kid who got addicted to a drug, but has been and is a good person, 20 years is probably not a just sentence. If the oxycontin addiction is just a cover story for a truly anti-social young man, then the sentence is appropriate.

[BlackbirdSST]

The anti-WOD crowd love to chase amblulance and stand in front of them as a back drop while they spout their losing silly arguments...a real classless, self-absorbed, single issue lot....they never miss an opportunity to preach to us poor ignorant unelightened dolts who just can't see that addiction, death, crime and misery are a RIGHT.

Yet another disengenious screed from the WOsD's and the WOsD User's crowd. Want to discuss ignorant unenlighten dolt's? Take a look in the mirror! When are you thug's gonna start calling for Rush's head on a pike? Hmmmm? Blackbird.

[HamiltonJay]

. I am not saying drugs must be freely available, just that anything a man might have and use should be available to him to use RESPONSIBLY, like an adult. The Creator simply did not make anything, (nor can man fashion from what the Creator originated) that somehow may not be used wisely. That includes opium.

We make may wise laws to regulate use, but no law is wise that bans a thing completely, nor subjects usages to the sole and complete discretion of the state or its agents.

What a bunch of crock. I suppose the parts, means and methods to build nuclear weapons or other mass destructive devices should be freely available to all, and not subject to restriction or control by nations or their agents?

Please. This is a nice phylosophy for the pre 1700s when the height of mans knowlege was agriculture and the fringes of the industrial revolution. HOwever there is no doubt that today mans abuility and capacity to destroy far and exceeds generally his individual wisdom.

I'm sorry, I just don't think the typical 18 year Popeye's chicken employee should be blindly trusted with a WMD.

We are past the age where by the time one had learned or earned the ability to utilize power that they had already learned the respect and responsibility that comes with that power.

Martial arts and the like are probably one of the few remaining areas of study, where this tradition continues to exist.. largely in the post industrial and information revolutions this is not the case... we can and often do get far greater power than our wisdom should allow us to have, paying little or no price for it, nor respecting the hard work, or warnings, of those prior who got human kind to that point.

[lewislynn]

his actions to feed his addiction.

So how much oxycontin can one buy with 7 trucks a blazing and a flashlight beaten 73 yr old?

[Always Right]

What you falsely refer to as anarchy, most ADULTS call Freedom under Rule of Law.

What law are you talking about? Besides you certainly don't speak for most adults or we would have legalized all drugs a long time ago.

I am not saying drugs must be freely available, just that anything a man might have and use should be available to him to use RESPONSIBLY, like an adult.

I, like most people in the country, do not believe there is such a thing as using crack cocain responsibly.

[dennisw]

Oy oy oy. Such clever words all in the service of legalizing known poisons such as heroin, cocaine and crack. Poisons that intelligent cultures reject, condemn and make illegal. There is no long, ingrained history of using such poisons in Western civilization. Such poisonous crud is native to the 3rd world; is cultivated and processed there. There is a long honorable history of alcohol use in our Western society back to the Bible and beyond. And a history of tobacco and coffee use. There is no long history of marijuana, heroin, cocaine, opium use.

United States legalizing drugs? This is a chapter from the libertarian book of loserology. On how to make your nation a loser nation. You need a check up from the neck up bubala!

[BlackbirdSST]

You said to bvw: "Besides you certainly don't speak for most adults ..."

Then you turn around and say: "I, like most people in the country....."

So you purport to speak for "most people" huh? You probably have one of the most arrogant, yet fitting, screen names on FR. A legend in your own mind! I do get a kick out of watching people speak out of both sides of their yap! Always right? Pffffffft! Blackbird.

[Moby Grape]

....name calling...labeling of those who disagree...the benchmark of the anti-WOD gaggle... and Blackbird's droppings are splattered thoughout FR threads.....It is fun to watch the frothing at the mouth when someone disagrees....predictable, and humorous.

[BlackbirdSST]

There is a long honorable history of alcohol use in our Western society back to the Bible and beyond. And a history of tobacco and coffee use. There is no long history of marijuana, heroin, cocaine, opium use.

Your entire response is pure nonsense, but I'll take issue with a couple of your points. You consider our History w/alcohol as "Honorable"? You think "Western Civilization" dates back to the Bible and beyond? No "long history" of use of MJ/Heroin/cocaine in our Society? I purposely left off opium, I'll leave it to you to figure out why. No long ingrained "history" of using such "poisons" in Western Civilization? What planet did you just arrive from? Who needs a "checkup from the neckup" babalu? You can't reason any better than this and don't do drug's? Come on, you're just screwing around with us, right? Blackbird.

[BlackbirdSST]

....name calling...labeling of those who disagree...the benchmark of the anti-WOD gaggle... and Blackbird's droppings are splattered thoughout FR threads.....It is fun to watch the frothing at the mouth when someone disagrees....predictable, and humorous.

You said: The anti-WOD crowd love to chase amblulance and stand in front of them as a back drop while they spout their losing silly arguments...a real classless, self-absorbed, single issue lot....they never miss an opportunity to preach to us poor ignorant unelightened dolts who just can't see that addiction, death, crime and misery are a RIGHT.

Riddled with nothing but name calling, seems you've lost this in your memory hole, huh? It's only been a few minutes. Go get a stiff drink on me! As long as you people want to dig this hypocrasy hole I'll keep calling you on it! Blackbird.

[Always Right]

So you purport to speak for "most people" huh? You probably have one of the most arrogant, yet fitting, screen names on FR. A legend in your own mind! I do get a kick out of watching people speak out of both sides of their yap! Always right? Pffffffft! Blackbird.

LOL, boy are you a piece of work. I really went out on the limb suggesting that most people think crack cocain should be outlawed. I mean what the hell was I thinking suggesting something dumb like that. Boy I feel stupid. Cetainly most people feel that crack cocain is a wonderful drug and everyone should use it. I must have been smoking crack myself when I suggested that most people don't think there is a responsible usage for crack cocain. Obviously there is widespread support to hand out crack to school children........

Where the f are you coming from? I really fail to comprehend you. Of course I am just some arrogant SOB, unlike you of course......lol, you are too funny.

[EGPWS]

I'd like to know where mom was while her 15 year old was out buying hard drugs, stealing cars, and beating old women. Are we supposed to believe that she didn't know anything was wrong until he got arrested for the beating?

It could be that she was over at the neighbors house having a cup of coffee discussing what a sweet wonderful little shnookums she has for a son.

[Always Right]

So you purport to speak for "most people" huh? You probably have one of the most arrogant, yet fitting, screen names on FR. A legend in your own mind! I do get a kick out of watching people speak out of both sides of their yap! Always right? Pffffffft! Blackbird.

LOL, boy are you a piece of work. I really went out on the limb suggesting that most people think crack cocain should be outlawed. I mean what the hell was I thinking suggesting something dumb like that. Boy I feel stupid. Cetainly most people feel that crack cocain is a wonderful drug and everyone should use it. I must have been smoking crack myself when I suggested that most people don't think there is a responsible usage for crack cocain. Obviously there is widespread support to hand out crack to school children........

Where the f are you coming from? I really fail to comprehend you. Of course I am just some arrogant SOB, unlike you of course......lol, you are too funny.

[nmh]

If being addicted to this oxy stuff then WHY has Rush committed crimes like this:

Richard Lee Daniel was 15 when he went on a crime spree that started with seven stolen vehicles and ended in the brutal beating and robbery of a 73-year-old woman.