Hooray for Tony Snow

AndrewSullivan.com [Rockefeller snowed] ^ | October 13, 2003 | tony snow/ jay rockefeller

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[Mo1]

I heard one of the Dems ( I forget which one) say that the president lied because Saddam didn't have misseles that could hit the US

NO ONE say that they could .. but it goes to so how far the Dems will lie

[Eva]

I agree, this article is a keeper.

[MEG33]

I heard that,too, but can't recall who said it.Pathetic.

[Mo1]

Pathetic.

There are so many of them out there lying .. at times it's hard to keep up with who said what

[Dolphy]

How could a speach made it January influance a vote made the previous October?

My bet is that these same people who claim the President said something he never did would have no shame in claiming to have known what he was planning to say either.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

The rich such as the Rockefellers, and Hitlerites as in "Hillary", go shopping in those states with a brain dead electorate. Once the educational system has sufficiently dumbed down the current crops of Sheeple voters who are totally unversed and ignorant of American history or the constitution, they don't let little things like truth and honesty get in their way. Don't forget another Rockefeller went shopping down in Arkansas and bought a US senator's position last century.

[lainde]

bttt

[GOPrincess]

I believe you're right, I think Tony and his wife have 3 children.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

bump

[Cacophonous]

maybe because it wasn't?

So what would constitute an imminent threat, if not the following?

* A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.

* A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

* Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home, one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.

* New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF), and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.

* Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).

* A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.

* Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles, a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists have said they were told to conceal from the UN.

* Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km - well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.

* Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles, and other prohibited military equipment.

Remember our goal was to stop saddam before he could nuke our troops or Israel, or pass along chem/boi weapons to his terrorist supporters.

So how is declaring Iraq an imminent threat a violation or invalidation of this goal (the Powell Doctrine)?

[MeekOneGOP]

Thanks for the post, Roscoe ... and for the ping, Howlin !! ...

Way to go, Tony Snow !! ...

Hooray for Tony Snow

Excerpt:

Snow is much too nice. Rockefeller is either a liar or an idiot. I'd bet on liar. Seriously, what else can be said about this man's statements?

There are issues here that can be debated, and then there are simple truths.

The simple truth is that Iraq's WMD capabilities were there and were hidden -- and that David Kay reported just that.

The simple truth is that Iraq was working on UAVs and missiles that could threaten his neighbors and U.S. forces in the region -- and David Kay reported just that.

To deny these facts and to attack the president based on that willful deceit is outrageous. Sen. Rockefeller is placing partisan politics above the security of the United States and the troops on the ground in Iraq.

*UPDATE* Fox News' official transcript can be found here.

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[Brian Allen]

BTTT .... [Thanks for the ping 'nMing]

[eddie willers]

I willing to give him credit for being talented enough to be both at the same time.

I think it was Edmund Muskie who, when asked if he was "wishy washy" answered:

"Well....yes and no."

Points for honesty?

[Pan_Yans Wife]

ping

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Thanks for the post, Roscoe, and the ping, PYW.

Forwarding this to FN, following my apology yesterday for singling out Tony for abuse on Friday. (^:

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Rockefeller didn't change his mind, but he did. But he didn't. But he was deceived. But it didn't matter. But... But....

That's more flip-flops than you'd see on a summer day at any San Diego beach.

But it gets better. Snow quotes again from the same Rockefeller speech....

Andrew Sullivan on Tony Snow's courageous Sunday interview with Sen. Jay Rockefeller.

More on "The Plan": SOD Rumsfeld, Mar. 21., Gen. Franks, Mar. 22, Amb. Bremer, Sept. 5 (CPA - #7,8 of original 8 objectives), SOD Rumsfeld, Sept. 25, Amb. Bremer, Oct. 9.

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[pageonetoo]

does the name...BYRD... mean anything in this context? I have my main residence in WV, and own homes in three other dim states, and by far these guys take the cake for lying, meanness, and general BS!

[sandydipper]

Rockefeller - US Senator. None of them are worth a cup of cow pee. We could manage without the lot.

[NarniaSC]

Tony Snow was the only "relief host" on the Rush Limbaugh show that I actually preferred to Rush himself. Amazing logic, composure, faith foundation, voice. Confident and humble at the same time. He can communicate heartland common sense and think tank details with equal skill. Can you imagine Tony dismantling Hillary in a debate?

[samanella]

My father had business dealings with Jay Baby. Trust me....he's an idiot. My father still will say when something is incredibly stupid "that's not dumb, that's Rockefeller dumb!"