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Question Regarding Data on Gay Marriage
October 13, 2003 | Hobsonphile

Posted on 10/13/2003 5:24:53 PM PDT by Hobsonphile

Of all Western nations, Denmark, Norway, and Sweden have had some form of legalized gay marriage the longest. My question is: Has anyone here encountered any longitudinal or sequential studies that have been conducted in these countries (which seem to me to be good test cases) examining the social effects of legal gay marriage?


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1 posted on 10/13/2003 5:24:54 PM PDT by Hobsonphile
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To: Hobsonphile
The data shows a greater percentage of the population having blonde hair as well as an exceptionally high tax rate in countries that have had some form of legalized gay "marriage" the longest.
2 posted on 10/13/2003 5:31:06 PM PDT by Huber
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3 posted on 10/13/2003 5:31:17 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Huber
Aside from recruitment, these slimey creatures cannot survive one generation. Ergo, the genetic argument does not hold water.
4 posted on 10/13/2003 5:34:59 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Hobsonphile
It is claimed (by homosexual advocates) that the divorce rate for gay couples in Denmark is much less than for heterosexual couples; but considering the 'political correctness' factor and the 'vested interest factor', it might take a lot of research to uncover some truth about the matter.
5 posted on 10/13/2003 5:35:47 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Hobsonphile
I seem to remember reading something about declining birth rates.
6 posted on 10/13/2003 5:39:08 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: pointsal
That's so funny but so true. LOL! How does a GAY GENE pass on in a "species" that can not reproduce?
7 posted on 10/13/2003 5:40:24 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: 45Auto
"...it might take a lot of research to uncover some truth about the matter."

Well, just as to which marriages last longer, it would take a bunch of work, but it wouldn't be complicated, assuming that marriage and divorce records are public there as they are here. This could be easily ascertained, but you'd need someone who knew the language and could tell which names were male and which were female, unless that is noted somewhere.


8 posted on 10/13/2003 5:45:53 PM PDT by jocon307 (GO RUSH GO)
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The most intelligent gay marriage advocates argue that the gay lifestyle is the result of marginalization and that legalizing gay marriage will encourage monogamy. This sounds like an easy enough hypothesis to test in countries that have had legal gay marriage for over a decade.

How long does the average gay marriage last compared to the average heterosexual marriage? Are such marriages comparably faithful? A longitudinal or sequential study that follows homosexual and heterosexual couples and controls for other socio-economic variables- ethnicity, income, education, etc.- seems to me to be the best research design to appropriately answer those questions. In ten years, has such a study been done?
9 posted on 10/13/2003 5:53:01 PM PDT by Hobsonphile (Art should celebrate God's creation. Writers should love humanity in all its forms.)
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To: Hobsonphile
A study should be done on the offspring of gay people.
10 posted on 10/13/2003 5:58:18 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
That's so funny but so true. LOL! How does a GAY GENE pass on in a "species" that can not reproduce?


I don't think it is funny at all. Homosexuals and lesbians are adopting and (lesbians) getting pregnant, and using surrogats at enormous rates. There is more than one way to build a family.
11 posted on 10/13/2003 6:09:39 PM PDT by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred)
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To: mlmr
Do you think that homosexual parents will raise their kids to be "gay"?
12 posted on 10/13/2003 6:16:02 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Hobsonphile
One ironic fact is that Denmark, the first country to legalize this form of marriage, did so after pressure from CONSERVATIVE parties. The issue invovled proerty rights and inheritance, and had nothing to do with children.

I still don't understand why this is an issue for people. No one forces me to accept anyone else's marriage (as a Roman Catholic, I may not accept a divorced person's marriage as valid), nor are any clergypersons forced to perform a marriage that violates their own religious precepts. However, as a pure contract, there's no reason a marriage shouldn't be between two persons of the same gender. And, apparently, it has worked quite well in the Scandinavian countries.
13 posted on 10/13/2003 6:21:03 PM PDT by rpgdfmx
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To: GSWarrior
Do you think that homosexual parents will raise their kids to be "gay"?


I think that homosexual parents will raise children who consider homosexuality to be "normal." It is a way of wedging the issue.
14 posted on 10/13/2003 6:30:59 PM PDT by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred)
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To: Hobsonphile
I remember reading a study on FR that the longevity of their relationships was 1 1/2 years, regardless of a marraige committment.
15 posted on 10/13/2003 6:41:06 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: mlmr
If you approve Gay marriage, how many Gays? 2, 3 or 5 people? You say 2, but their activists (who many have heard, and I have read) say "we will challenge that in court immediately".

A lot of Gays prefer group sex or at least an "openness" in their choice of partners (multiple studies prove this). How do you quantify the limits? Where does it end? What's the minimum age? Homosexual activists are doing everything possible to eliminate "age of consent" laws, because their literature is filled with glorification of pedophilia.

Gay males are just 2.2 percent of the population, but they are responsible for 1/3 of all sexual crime against minors (5).

Marriage can become useless because we could end up minimizing its importance until it was trivial and ineffective. Once you've opened Pandora's box, the Constitution has no limits built in to prevent society from eliminating Marriage all together.

Every civilization since the beginning of man has recognized the need for marriage. This country and healthy societies around the world give marriage special legal protection for a vital reason - it is the institution that ensures the society's future through the upbringing of children. Furthermore, it's just common sense that marriage is the union of a man and a woman.

There is an ocean of empirical data showing that the union between a man and a woman has unique benefits for children and society. Moreover, traditional family breakdown is the single biggest social problem in America today. In study after study, family breakdown is linked to an increase in violent crime, youth crime, teen pregnancy, welfare dependency and child poverty.


Carefully consider the effects to society before you support an experiment that has destroyed every civilization it's controlled throughout known history.

Perhaps you should look at the following for more in depth answers:
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IF02G2

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IF03H01


5. Kurt Freund, et al., "Heterosexuality, Homosexuality, and Erotic Age Preference," p. 107. Cp. Zebulon A. Silverthorne & Vernon L. Quinsey, "Sexual Partner Age Preferences of Homosexual and Heterosexual Men and Women," Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (February 2000): 67-76.
16 posted on 10/13/2003 7:23:08 PM PDT by Cannonphoder (Think about what you do, it matters.)
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I do not approve of homosexual and lesbian marriage. I think it is a wedge issue to more and greater perversity.
17 posted on 10/14/2003 12:12:35 PM PDT by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred)
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To: Cannonphoder
I do not approve of homosexual and lesbian marriage. I think it is a wedge issue to more and greater perversity.
18 posted on 10/14/2003 12:12:36 PM PDT by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred)
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To: Hobsonphile
Surveys have proven that long-term gay relationships in America, on the average, don't last as long as heterosexual relationships. Also, gay relationships are prone to "cheating" and usually include accommodations for one partner (or both) to have extramarital sexual contact.
19 posted on 10/14/2003 12:44:03 PM PDT by Bryan
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To: Bryan
Your more correct than you know. A couple years back two Gay researchers did an in depth study of long term Gay relationships and found that almost all of them had an "agreement" that they would tolerate little "flings?", they used another word. Though it should be kept in mind that long term Gay relationships are a small percentage actually. When I find the specifics, I'll post it.
20 posted on 10/14/2003 7:02:43 PM PDT by Cannonphoder (Think about what you do, it matters.)
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