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Posted on 11/08/2025 6:17:28 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
Conservative media pundits Ben Shapiro and Megyn Kelly sparred this week over an interview Tucker Carlson conducted with white nationalist Nick Fuentes — and other commentary Carlson has made on his online podcast.
“If I see somebody breach basic moral values by having on a Nazi, in my own view, gloss the Nazi, then I’m going to speak out about that,” Shapiro told Kelly during a live event.
“I’m going to point out that there is a long pattern of him ideologically laundering terrible ideas over the course of the last two years, ranging from traveling to Russia to sniff the bread and explain why the Russian regime is actually wonderful, to saying last week the Venezuelan regime of Nicolás Maduro is actually not that bad,” he added in comments highlighted by Mediaite.
Kelly responded by saying she wasn’t interested in being Carlson’s “defender” but noted Maduro is “culturally conservative.”
“Who gives a s‑‑‑?” Shapiro shot back. “I don’t give a s‑‑‑ whether he’s anti-LGBTQ rights. This is the No. 1 thing about Nicolás Maduro? You know how far down the list you have to get before you can get to anything remotely recommendable about Nicolás Maduro?”
Shapiro has been sharply critical of Carlson following his interview with Fuentes, who has a history of making antisemitic, sexist and other offensive comments. The episode sparked widespread condemnation, primarily among members of the conservative right.
Carlson responded to the criticism his interview had earned during the same event, telling Kelly “I don’t need to prove that I am a good person to you.”
Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, initially defended Carlson over the interview. Following backlash, Roberts apologized for his comments and condemned Fuentes.
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Nick Fuentes is 😬❌. And Tucker clearly has something more negative driving his statements these days, than mere foreign policy critiques…Which is why it seems a long way off for a thoughtful discussion to take place between him and Ben on either of their platforms.
For now.
I lost Tucker when he pulled his punches on the Hunter laptop.
Completely disagree. Every time the issue of Israel comes up Ben gets emotional and starts talking like a lefty by name calling and throwing insults. Fuentes would still be a nobody video game streamer if Shapiro never gave him any notice to begin with…
I think the real story is that just about everybody is fighting just about everybody else.
It’s not good.
lol... srsly?
What about how Ben treats others, smearing, demeaning and trying to cancel or ruin anyone not stitched directly to Isrsel's ass. He blurts out Nazi accusations on full-auto... as he does here. Everyone's a Nazi.
Zero sympathy.
Carlson was always center right on his best days. He discovered he could get big ratings by talking the conservative talk when he was on FNC. It was never real. At this point he just drifts around with no real compass.
Because Hunter was his friend.
None of my friends are repulsive. Now, I have some repulsive acquaintances, but not friends.
“lol... srsly? What about how Ben treats others, smearing, demeaning and trying to cancel or ruin anyone not stitched directly to Isrsel’s ass. He blurts out Nazi accusations on full-auto... as he does here. Everyone’s a Nazi. Zero sympathy.”
Agreed. Shapiro is a twit.
Teapot Tempest.
I eschew both.
And I’m not a fan of the skinny woman as I remember her walking down the hall intent on taking out Trump.
The Crap Hill gives their leftist synopsis-—nonsense!!! Pure unadulterated crap from the SHill.
Woke, cancel culture tactics are no better from the right than from the left.
Sean Davis of the Federalist is right - the war on Tucker is really a proxy war against JD Vance. It's all about getting the Republican party back to being the party of Bush and globalist/neocon foreign policy.
Well for Ben, anything Israel related is existential and deeply personal/spiritual. But I do think he is capable of speaking objectively when he wants.
On the other hand, Israel’s current government plus the US politicians who unconditionally support their every move have done a disservice…to the cause of Israel as a whole, and have done a lot of self-inflicting damage. Major PR fails in how much of the Gaza and Iran stuff unfolded.
Anti-semitism existed before Israel became a modern state. So there will always be haters. But a lot of people at the moment who are critical of Israel are not being driven by hatred. And that gets lost among some Israel supporters who seek to censor any and all debate.
Are the top profile conservative podcasters still talking about Tucker Carlson? What else about him could there be worth saying? I recall when it appeared that Matt Drudge had changed sides and become a rabid Never Trumper.
At some point, it doesn’t matter. one has to keep moving, and not depend on any media personality to always speak for you.
Ben Shapiro is a schmuck!
“...not depend on any media personality to always speak for you...”
I’ve in the last few years come to realize that nobody can adequately represent me.
Certainly nobody in Congress nor the State legislature.
Levin is 🫤
Shapiro at least is capable of holding space for some debate and he came around to Trump in a more meaningful way than Levin (a Ted Cruz supporter from the outset) did.
Agree, everyone fighting on Jesus, exist, pre milleniel, Christian national? No Jesus? Fight for Israel?
Israel or America first? Serve two masters?
Who suffers?
American’s.
Israel is also not benefitting if things continue like this. It’s self-sabotaging and counterproductive on their end as well.
And we risk a Mamdani revolution everywhere.
The last thing we do is support everything Israel wants. If we had left them alone, Hamas would have been destroyed by now.
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