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Fraud ballots are impossible to detect! Correct me if wrong!
11/10/2020 | Self

Posted on 11/10/2020 7:39:47 PM PST by entropy12

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To: entropy12
That's what I've been saying with the Bernie Madoff example.

How can they prove that THAT particular $1 was the stolen one?

-PJ

61 posted on 11/10/2020 8:46:06 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Helicondelta

I agree.


62 posted on 11/10/2020 8:46:24 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: entropy12

Mailed ballots are ‘Currency’ in inner city poor districts. Can probably pick them up for $5-10 a piece. Everybody knows who ‘the man’ is, who will buy your ballot. That’s why RATs love to mail out ballots


63 posted on 11/10/2020 8:47:15 PM PST by 11th_VA (If the votes unfit, you must remit)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

I would love to see a true and fair election in those counties and it would settle the issue once and for all for me.

How could there be any doubt if they did it right?

By not allowing poll watchers so there was transparency and verification the election officials they destroyed the election for over 300 million people.

There will never be any trust in the result any other way. Sure, they will howl, but what could their real argument be if they won so decisively? An honest winner would demand it.

Courts often seek the least drastic remedy so who knows. It is probably just a pipe dream, but it is doable.


64 posted on 11/10/2020 8:49:39 PM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: entropy12

100% undetectable.


65 posted on 11/10/2020 8:49:57 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: volunbeer
how could any “reasonable person” argue against the legislature stating 1) the vote there is invalid as determined by the courts and 2) this is the fairest way to remedy the issue.

Fair? You're getting off into liberal mindset, and capitulation, if you ask me, and you know I generally enjoy your posts. Fair is following the law as it exists, not creating feel good new ones. The Constitution already covers this specific issue, satisfactorily. If they broke the law, more new laws and giving them a second chance is certainly not the answer.

66 posted on 11/10/2020 8:51:01 PM PST by Golden Eagle (List of Cable News Alternatives ----> http://freerepublic.com/~goldeneagle/ <----)
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To: volunbeer
how could any “reasonable person” argue against the legislature stating 1) the vote there is invalid as determined by the courts and 2) this is the fairest way to remedy the issue.

Fair? You're getting off into liberal mindset, and capitulation, if you ask me, and you know I generally enjoy your posts. Fair is following the law as it exists, not creating feel good new ones. The Constitution already covers this specific issue, satisfactorily. If they broke the law, more new laws and giving them a second chance is certainly not the answer.

67 posted on 11/10/2020 8:51:01 PM PST by Golden Eagle (List of Cable News Alternatives ----> http://freerepublic.com/~goldeneagle/ <----)
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To: Doctor DNA; mazz44

“Watermark” is a misnomer. I can’t confirm it, but I believe that ballot printing machines embed a machine identification code in the printed face.

Too many comments to link to; you both might want to browse this thread, in particular my own:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3904027/posts


68 posted on 11/10/2020 8:52:58 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Golden Eagle

I don’t disagree. This is all just mental speculation, but do consider that my proposed remedy (if possible at all) would be the least harsh penalty for the obvious fraud that occurred.

On top of that, it would prove the fraud, which is an added benefit.

I am sure it won’t happen. By law, the votes in that county cannot be fixed and they should be tossed. The problems there are so bad that those in charge should be jailed in a sane world. How could you muck up something this badly unless it was deliberate?


69 posted on 11/10/2020 8:56:57 PM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: entropy12

Ballots are numbered. I don’t know if the envelope has a corresponding number or not. I forgot to take pictures.

Each ballot has the voter’s name associated with it, I assume for nanvassing purposes.


70 posted on 11/10/2020 9:08:10 PM PST by PrairieLady2 (Replacing Trump with Biden is like shitting your pants then changing your shirt.)
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To: entropy12
I agree with you that there is probably no way to fix these ballots now and it certainly appears that this was a deliberate act.

Because of this fraud, the state legislators should step in and directly appoint the Electoral College voters for their states.

71 posted on 11/10/2020 9:08:46 PM PST by libertylover (Election 2020: Make America Great Again or Burn it to the Ground. Choose one.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

‘The state legislatures could appoint the electors”

Or refuse to certify their Electors. Simply deny them to either candidate and remove their EVs from the equation.

If both are under 270 the matter will be left to Congress, where the Republicans will seat Trump based on the makeup of the state legislatures.

I would love to see Nancy gavel that! She wouldn’t though, cuz she’d lose.


72 posted on 11/10/2020 9:15:00 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: PrairieLady2

My Florida ballot had no number
Unless I missed it


73 posted on 11/10/2020 9:25:58 PM PST by entropy12 (No president of past kept as many promises as PDJT.)
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To: Meatspace

I agree with you.


74 posted on 11/10/2020 9:27:05 PM PST by entropy12 (No president of past kept as many promises as PDJT.)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Sadly you do not have any power to decide anything.


75 posted on 11/10/2020 9:28:04 PM PST by entropy12 (No president of past kept as many promises as PDJT.)
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To: Lee25

I agree the legislature should decide. But will they have courage to face onslaught by media?


76 posted on 11/10/2020 9:31:47 PM PST by entropy12 (No president of past kept as many promises as PDJT.)
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To: Helicondelta

From my recollection the ballot paper in Florida had neither my name or any number on it. So there is no way to extract and nullify my vote for Biden.


77 posted on 11/10/2020 9:36:40 PM PST by entropy12 (No president of past kept as many promises as PDJT.)
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To: blueplum

I do not recall any identifying markings on my Florida ballot.
But at the time I was not looking for it so could have missed it.
I mailed my absentee ballot 2 weeks before Nov 3rd.


78 posted on 11/10/2020 9:40:50 PM PST by entropy12 (No president of past kept as many promises as PDJT.)
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To: entropy12

well :), you could certainly look at an individual ballot in certain cases and tell its a fraud or counterfeit or spoiled ballot. that’s why it’s important to examine the ballot or ballot image and why it must be preserved. enough of those and you’ve got big suspicions.

but, it’s really more important to be able to detect “election fraud” (improbabilities among groups of ballots and counts) then individual ballot fraud. that’s where mathematics and statistics are useful tools.


79 posted on 11/10/2020 9:42:25 PM PST by dadfly
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To: entropy12

The fraud happened when people no longer had their name attached to the ballot. Why sign the privacy envelope? Why not the ballot itself. If people are too frightened to put their name to a vote, they should quit voting and give up the right to do it.


80 posted on 11/10/2020 9:42:57 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer)
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