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They did not believe in democracy. They believed in a constitutional republic.

I believe that you had to own land to be a voter back then. I’d like to see a return to that, frankly, I felt that way even when I owned no land.

We are exceptional precisely because we were not what these Leftist theorists, who would appropriate the fruits of other peoples' labor, thought we should be. We never sought a ceiling on personal achievement!

As for "Democracy? Madison dealt with that notion in the Federalist Papers.

As for universal suffrage? Threat To Liberty

I do not know about land, but a friend of mine has proposed that anyone on public assistance should not be allowed to vote. (yeah, I know, its a pipe dream). The thinking is, why should someone who is not contributing to the economy be allowed to participate in divvying up benefits? You want to participate in the voting, get a job. It kind of makes sense. Of course, nowadays, probably two thirds of the country wouldn't be eligible to vote under this idea.

Again, no way this idea even gets a hearing.

Absolutely agree with you re. the Founders did not want a democracy and thus we were bestowed a marvelous constitutional republic. I have read and agree with, that they regarded democracy as mob rule based on the experiences of ancient Greece (Athens). We are way too close to a democracy now since Senators are directly elected instead of selected by the State. We were and would still be better off and more stable if the the Senate represented the sovereign interests of their State.

I do not agree that voting should still remain a sole right of landowners. Times evolve and a reality is that many solid citizens are renters by choice or necessity. Myself as an example, I am retired and purposely sold the home and do not plan on ownership again other than transportation means and personal possessions. Don’t want the responsibility of being tied down. My choice. I do agree with this in the sense that anyone on the dole should forfeit the right to vote. I do not regard social security/Medicare to be within the the definition of being “on the dole”. I paid dearly into this crappy investment for 50+ years and plan on living to 100+ to get every last nickel back that I can. I started paying into it when I was 12yo as a paperboy and payed into it every year through 67yo. I will be surprised if I pay anymore into the feds for this even though Headhunter’s still contact me to get back into the game.

I believe that you had to own land to be a voter back then.

They tried to do that but Franklin among others argued with firm logic against it.

I will give you one example of why "you must own property to vote" is a bad idea. Bezos and Zuckerberg both own property, General Flynn does not. Who would you trust to vote in the best interests of the nation?