Posted on 12/08/2019 3:38:07 PM PST by entropy12
While Trump has continuously blasted the impeachment inquiry, calling it a “one-sided sham process” and blocking his highest-profile officials from testifying before a Democratic-dominated House, the president has also said he would "love" for his administration officials to testify in the Senate.
“It will be fair in the Senate,” he said ahead of the first House impeachment hearing.
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“It will be fair in the Senate,”
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Sorry to say, I don’t share his confidence.
Murkowski already said the House impeachment inquiry was not fair. So that leaves only Willard Romney & Susan Collins as possible defectors.
No way 18 other republican senators are going to defect to the rabid democRats, who are desperate to remove Trump before he wins again in 2020.
Well don’t trust Murkowski.
Ok, add Murky to the democrat column. That still leaves 17 more defectors needed. I am betting against it.
No I don’t expect 17 either for that matter neither do the Rats. What they really, really want is 4 rino traitors. That will give them a bipartisan majority to convict. They will use it is a propaganda club to beat on Trump with throughout the twenty campaign. We have heard Mitt has been working in the background to get some turncoats to join him. Maybe true maybe not.
In the end, I think there will be no Republican defections either in the House or Senate.
And, off the top of my head, the three Democrat Senators most likely to acquit are Manchin, Jones, and Sinema.
How is 4 defectors enough to convict? Senate needs 67 to vote to convict and remove from office. It is mission impossible. It is not simple majority like in the House of Reps.
It’s 67 to REMOVE. If the rats managed to get 4 traitors they would have a bipartisan majority that voted to convict. It’s strictly a PR victory because they would be well short of enough votes to remove. As I said they would use it as a club throughout the 20 campaign. This assumes the Rats lose no one. Watch Manchin and Jones. If Jones’s internals show he has a chance of re-election the rats may lose him because he must know if votes to convict he’s dead. Manchin could also be a no but he just got re-elected so it’s hard to say with him.
Mitt’s working as hard & fast as he can to impeach trump before ol mitt’s name turns up in this Ukrainian corruption
Actually 67 is 2/3 of 100 Senators. The constitution says they need 2/3 of Senators “Present”. So 2/3 of any number of Senators present to vote to convict or remove. If there is a plan to have lot of Republican Senators not show up, we could be in serious danger.
Also the Senate could offer “secret voting”. If that is offered, I guarantee you, lot of RINO Senators would vote in secret. A simple majority of 51 would be all it would take if they chose vote in secret.
Yes, theoretically anything is possible. But while I am always fearing the worst from republicans, this time I feel sanguine about no removal of the POTUS based on how flimsy the “evidence” is.
Even Sen Murkowski said the House impeachment inquiry was ridiculously unfair.
Right now we have 53-to-47 lead.
All 100 present--> 67 to convict.
Let's say we get 4 turncoats. So 51 to convict, 49 against.
By definition, ALL of the Dems wanting to impeach will show up; so will the turncoats.
So how many "closet RINOs" would have to stay away, to get 2/3 with less than everyone voting?
51 will have to be 2/3 of the number present.
51/2 is 25.5 so there'd need to be (round down so you exceed the threshhold) 3x25.5 = 76.5, or 76 present.
So you'd have to have all four turncoats, plus 24 other GOP Senators sitting out and not voting.
Do you REALLY think 24 Republicans are going to sit out to allow the conviction of a President with a > 90% approval rating from their own party (seeing the size of his rallies) less than a year before the election, with the economy going gangbusters?
For impeachment charges which don't even name crimes ("Obstruction of Congress" literally was MADE UP; and you cannot charge someone with "Obstruction of Justice" for their ASKING TO GO TO A COURT FOR AN OPINION).
SOD OFF SWAMPY.
I think there will be defections among the Democrats in The House
Any plan to have the “moderate”/anti-Trump Republicans fail to show up would be almost as politically damaging to those Republicans as if they just came out and voted against the man. I just don’t see it happening.
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