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Trump the real winner as Biden again proves he’s not cut out to be nominee
The New York Post ^ | September. 13. 2019 | Michael Goodwin

Posted on 09/13/2019 8:10:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

And the winner is … Donald Trump.

The Democrats’ third presidential debate was a long-winded, platitude-filled disaster where no single candidate could claim a clear victory. Instead, the seven men and three women took turns displaying why they are all probably unelectable.

Start with Joe Biden’s incoherence. The nominal front-runner, the former vice president had a 40-year reputation for never shutting up. Now he can’t manage to finish a sentence without interrupting himself.

Nearly all his efforts to make a point were swamped by a sudden change of direction mid-sentence, and then another change a few words later as a random thought popped into his head and out his mouth. None of his rivals needed to interrupt him — he did it to himself.

Most of the time I had no idea what he was trying to say, let alone what he actually said. I veered between feeling sorry for him and expecting the AFLAC duck to come out on stage and shake its head in bewilderment.

I have said all along that I don’t believe Biden will be the nominee, and last night left me more certain than ever. He’s not capable of going the distance in the primaries and then taking on Trump.

Biden’s poor performance and the failure of any others to have a breakout night should have been good news for Sen. Elizabeth Warren. She has placed second in most recent polls, but Warren failed to take advantage of the opening Biden presented and shied away from attacking him directly.

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TOPICS: Delaware; Massachusetts; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2020; biden; clowncar; debates; delaware; democrats; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; joebiden; joeclowncarbiden; massachusetts; michaelgoodwin; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkpost; slingingbull
It's like the old joke "I don't have to outrun the alligator, I just have to outrun you."
1 posted on 09/13/2019 8:10:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Legit point about outrunning the bear but this could actually be a “tactic”. When taking fire you run zig zag. Same when trying to avoid flak. He left his detractors trying to figure out how to get a handle on him and he was shucking and jiving the whole time. What do the fighter pilots call it? Bob and weave?

2 posted on 09/13/2019 8:16:01 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not sure about the odds of who will win the nomination. I tend to think either Biden, Warren, Harris, or Bernie. The problem they have is that they have been soooo immersed in harmful identity politics, that it will alienate middle of the road people.

3 posted on 09/13/2019 8:19:33 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Presiden Trump SHINES in rat-infested/Democrat-infested Baltimore as the Democrat Freakshow grovels in anger and hatred and contempt for the USA.

What's the choice?

President Trump:


4 posted on 09/13/2019 9:00:12 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Was the election of Donald Trump to the Presidency liberty's last gasp? Big Brother is watching you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I need to get a record player.

5 posted on 09/13/2019 9:51:41 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: KC_Conspirator

But the socialists do have one good point for them and one huge bad one.

The good point is they are not slashing each other as much this time as mostly all of them are going after Trump. So those that hate Trump are more united as a party.

The bad part is that while they are “blasting away” at Trump, they are failing completely in providing a platform that provides answers to the real problem we are having. And they are substituting blame for those answers. They have nothing to offer but filthy politics at every level that doesn’t apply to the questions. So as long as they are working with robot voters, the problems will be overlooked until 2024.


6 posted on 09/13/2019 9:51:51 AM PDT by Redwood71
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I think the Democrat Party folks want Biden to win so they can control him, just as they put an obviously mentally challenged Mueller in to be the figurehead special prosecutor.

7 posted on 09/13/2019 10:20:19 AM PDT by Kipp
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To: Redwood71

It’s a fantastic and winning platform.
1. Free everything
2. Wide open borders
3. Favoritism of illegals over citizens
4. Unrestricted baby murder
5. Tens of trillions of taxes to stop the bogus and made-up man-made climate change
6. Trump, all Republicans and all white people are racists and deserve to die

How can anybody NOT vote for that?

It’s going to be interesting to see if they temper those positions a year from now.

8 posted on 09/13/2019 11:40:03 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: conservative98

[I need to get a record player.]



You know, that Iron Horse is really gonna change the West.

Here’s hoping Joe Biden stays in long enough to be the Democrat nominee.

9 posted on 09/13/2019 11:54:51 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You just defined the thing in a simple series of thoughts. It is physically impossible for anyone with any intelligence and the desire to know the truth, to buy into this.

I have acquaintances, can’t call them friends because liberals can’t befriend anyone but a liberal as everyone but liberals are enemies by their choosing. And I’ve asked these people how they can support this type of foolish rhetoric? And without batting an eye, they honestly believe it’s true and I am just attacking them without actually researching any of it. Which is exactly the opposite as they have researched nothing and buy into it blindly.

But until the GOP gets off their “rusty dusty” and starts proving these claims lies pandering for votes, and sticks them down their lying throats, I really don’t have grounds to say any more than they do. They have the mike, I don’t. They need to use it.


10 posted on 09/13/2019 5:15:40 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Redwood71

I’m sure they are keeping their powder dry until it’s time to fire the big guns a year from now. I hope all the R’s get coordinated on their positions and story lines and just cram all this communist BS down their throats big time. They need to explain why their proposals are antithetical to freedom.

Unfortunately, the GOP doesn’t have a good position to say “The Dem proposals will break the bank” because the GOP is doing a good job breaking the bank all by themselves. Trillion dollar annual deficits! Absolutely insane. That’s my biggest disappointment in Trump.

11 posted on 09/13/2019 6:43:23 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve known for decades now inept and what a booger eating moron Biden was, and how the media covered it up.

But until recently, I had no idea just how corrupt he was, and only now do I realize just how complicit in that corruption the media is, between China and the Ukraine, with his family (and in particular, his son’s business dealings!)


12 posted on 09/13/2019 8:20:07 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Trump inherited a dying animal. So her started with security. And has been attacked for every move he he has made concerning anything for the betterment of the country by socialists that don’t want that betterment and want tot see this country made into a third world status so they can keep their power and wealth.

It’s difficult to rebuild a military that had 16 of the last 24 years of disbanding. Clinton destroyed the military financially and Obama continued the tact during his administration.

Pentagon leaders bristle at the idea their force has been “gutted” or is a “disaster.” The U.S. remains far and away the world’s foremost military power. But that’s only on paper.

Truth is spending is down; the force is smaller than when Obama took office and its equipment is aging. And, indeed, military leaders have spoken out about what they call the national-security dangers associated with climate change. They can’t foot the bill to fight, and they are worried about how much rain may hit a stryker? I guess that’s what you get for public education (?).

Condemning a Democratic president, or two in this case, for lavishing money on social programs at the expense of national defense is red meat for Republican voters. And compared to the peak of war-time spending at the height of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan — and the expectations that Pentagon planners once had for how much spending would grow — the defense budget is down, as Trump charged. Clinton alone cut billions from the budget.

Obama in his efforts to get the budget down to Eisenhower and Nixon levels failed to consider that parts alone for the machines the military uses that were not around during those administrations 60 years ago, inflated past those budget numbers almost immediately. So in doing that, he gutted the military even worse than Clinton did by using faulty, and really stupid, reasoning

So is the American troop presence in both countries, necessitating far less funding than was needed at the peak of the war. Whether Obama has deployed the “correct” American troop presence or pursued the right overall strategy for those ongoing wars and the newer conflict in Syria along with his failed consideration of something as simple as inflation, are themselves in question.

And the problem I had with Bush and his congress is they didn’t do enough to correct the shortfalls of the military and past Bush the over spending of the government purchases of bad social choices like the Affordable Care Act and its raiding of social security along with thrown away funds on automobile companies and failing power companies like Solyndra that lost over $500M and the bailout using $17B of tarp money (taxes) to purchase 32% of GM and Dodge/Chrysler. In other words, he put the government, a non-profit organization, into a capitalistic business.

Where was the GAO and congress? They sat on their hands. They failed the people. And this is not even a tiny bit of it. Congress and the Bush administration let the liberals destroy the housing ownership and the loaning agencies and never fired a single shot at them. They failed the people.

So in thinking about your determination that the GOP is waiting to fight back, the people have been waiting for over 60 years of socialist mismanagement and the conservative lack of action. It was time to fight back a long time ago. And with their history, I will be thoroughly surprised if they do at all. So don’t hold your breath. You may be blue for a long while.


13 posted on 09/13/2019 9:43:12 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
The Democrats’ third presidential debate was a long-winded, platitude-filled disaster where no single candidate could claim a clear victory. Instead, the seven men and three women took turns displaying why they are all probably unelectable.
...and, a sidebar, thanks to the Fat-Shaming leftist demagogue:
(fyi, progressivism is the cancer on progressivism)

14 posted on 09/14/2019 10:50:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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