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The same pollsters who had Hillary winning?
1 posted on 06/18/2019 11:45:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only poll that mattered in 2016 was IBD/TIPP. Haven’t heard from them this season but it’s possible they too might have got corrupted.


2 posted on 06/18/2019 11:50:35 PM PDT by libh8er
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Until the actual election result shows differently, I am taking it as certain that President Trump will win easily.


3 posted on 06/18/2019 11:55:49 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Oh, Look... it’s John Harwood the Clown.


4 posted on 06/18/2019 11:59:41 PM PDT by Conserv (.)
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John Harwood of wikileaks and Clinton boot-licking fame.


5 posted on 06/19/2019 12:32:36 AM PDT by AC86UT89
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What is the size of the crowd that Biden drew at his last speech versus the size Trump drew in Florida today? How long do these pollsters think they can continue with this fraud? How long do the cheating democrat election officials think they can get away with padding the ballot boxes they way they do. At some point, reality has to set in. The “unpopular” candidate does not draw huge crowds while the wherever he goes in the world, while the “popular” candidate cannot even fill a small town high school gymnasium in a blue state! This is beyond ridiculous and how long are we going to stand for this?


6 posted on 06/19/2019 12:44:55 AM PDT by erkelly
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Four years ago, Trump was at 1% with Republicans.


8 posted on 06/19/2019 12:54:14 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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What are these pills they speak of??


9 posted on 06/19/2019 3:29:05 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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These Fake Polls are being concocted so that the Democrats planned vote fraud will look legitimate. They will try to steal the Rust Belt states that the President narrowly won in 2016. California is 2018 shows the successful pattern for voter fraud. Expect to see the DNC trying to pass “vote harvesting” in every state with a Democrat majority legislature.

The GOP should wake up and make vote harvesting illegal in all FEDERAL elections.


13 posted on 06/19/2019 4:01:54 AM PDT by txrefugee
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“As the president tries to rally supporters at a 2020 kickoff rally in Orlando on Tuesday, he is fighting from behind.”

Tries to rally supporters? Fighting from behind?

And this, Mr. Harwood is why we call you a clown and a hack.


14 posted on 06/19/2019 4:08:33 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is President and CEO of America, Inc.)
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John Harwood. ‘Nuff said. Wikileaks revealed the actions of this partisan MSM bastard. And to think he was allowed to moderate a Presidential debate.


16 posted on 06/19/2019 4:33:25 AM PDT by kabar
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Yep - can see the hag saying (in her mind), “I’m President Hillary and I approve this message” - then she comes into focus, does a hic-burp, and pours herself another drink.


19 posted on 06/19/2019 4:44:43 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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Trump waltzes back in.


21 posted on 06/19/2019 5:02:42 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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I don't think Trump will win, but I don't want to argue that point here. The "Trump is an uber-genius who is beating the Democrats like a rug" choir should hold their fire. Maybe you are right. That's not the point.

The point is, if Trump doesn't win in 2020, anything Trump doesn't have cemented into place by this time next year, or August-September of next year at the latest, will disappear down the memory hole the moment a Democrat is sworn in.

The list of things that Trump can securely accomplish at this point is getting very, very short. RBG is a wild card; who knows? Maybe he'll get something solid on trade and immigration, though I suspect our opponents, who understand our political calendar, are just playing for time. (Mexico will be perfectly happy to move all of Central America north of the Rio Grande the moment Biden or Harris or whomever takes over.)

The big kahuna at this point is the Barr investigation. It needs to be done right, but if indictments are not forthcoming soon, it will be too late unless Trump is reelected. Exposing the illegality of the plotters is probably the most powerful means of changing the electoral dynamic -- but that case should be made sooner rather than later, so there is time for it to sink in and so that it cannot be dismissed as political grandstanding in the heat of a campaign.

The clock is ticking. Trump is paying the penalty now for his lackadaisical attitude towards staffing his administration early in the game. It has probably dawned on the Trump inner circle by now that they can't actually control the executive branch without all those deputy-under-assistant secretaries and Schedule C's in place, but that's water under the bridge. If Trump gets a second term, maybe he'll actually staff his administration next time around.

What Barr does, or doesn't do, in the next couple of months will be decisive. If no action is taken soon, there is a high probability that the Obama/Clinton scandals will simply evaporate in 18 months. We won't forget, but that won't much matter. We are almost out of time.

22 posted on 06/19/2019 5:26:10 AM PDT by sphinx
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I would have though Joe the liar would be at least 25 to 30 points ahead by now, since he IS going to cure cancer when he is elected.


23 posted on 06/19/2019 5:28:29 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Russia and Putin didn't make me vote for Trump, HILLARY DID!!!)
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Polls? Seriously? After 2016 they fixed something? Not!


25 posted on 06/19/2019 5:34:46 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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Did they not watch last night.


26 posted on 06/19/2019 5:57:14 AM PDT by abbastanza
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John Harwood, Hillary’s pet.


27 posted on 06/19/2019 6:12:33 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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The pollsters have the same problems now as the did in 15/16....

TRUMP doesn’t fit their mold.... they have no idea who these voters are or will be, let alone how to reach them. The ones they do know, generally don’t like to talk to them either. That and some are playing the same old tricks, and intentionally manipulating the outcomes as well.

Here’s 2020 in a nutshell, short of something HUGE like a massive Economic Collapse happening before election day...

Trump will outperform 2016 in every state. He will win EVERY state he took in 16. In states he got over 45% but didn’t win in 16, expect him to win most if not all of those as well. In states he got 40-45% expect Trump to go right into them and battle for them and likely win some of those as well.

It doesn’t matter who the Dems put up on the ballot, there is no path to victory for them.

I expect Trump to score at least 3-5 Million more votes in 2020 than he did in 16, and if the winds blow right he could get a few million more.


29 posted on 06/19/2019 6:21:26 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Before that, statewide polls in North Carolina and Texas showed Biden ahead by 12...

I hope they keep lying to themselves like they did in 2016.

30 posted on 06/19/2019 6:50:18 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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I suspect there is a huge Bradley Effect in poll respondents with Trump.
31 posted on 06/19/2019 7:42:28 AM PDT by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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