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Trump is Wall Street’s favorite to win in 2020, but his reelection prospects look bad in state polls
CNBC ^ | June 18, 2019 | John Harwood

Posted on 06/18/2019 11:45:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Presidents who seek reelection usually win. So Las Vegas oddsmakers, despite President Donald Trump’s low-40s approval ratings, still rate him even money for another term. Wall Street expects him to win next year.

But a look at state-by-state data clarifies the scale of Trump’s challenge. As the president tries to rally supporters at a 2020 kickoff rally in Orlando on Tuesday, he is fighting from behind.

A new Quinnipiac University poll of Florida showed the president trailing former Vice President Joe Biden by nine percentage points, 50%-41%, in their potential matchup for that state’s 29 electoral votes. Trump also trailed other possible Democratic nominees, including Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.

Last week, a veteran Michigan pollster showed Trump trailing Biden by 11 points for that state’s 16 electoral votes. Before that, statewide polls in North Carolina and Texas showed Biden ahead by 12 and four percentage points, respectively....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2020election; cnbc; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election; election2020; johnharwood; mediawingofthednc; nbc; nobrainscollectively; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine; trump2020; trumpeconomy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump waltzes back in.


21 posted on 06/19/2019 5:02:42 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't think Trump will win, but I don't want to argue that point here. The "Trump is an uber-genius who is beating the Democrats like a rug" choir should hold their fire. Maybe you are right. That's not the point.

The point is, if Trump doesn't win in 2020, anything Trump doesn't have cemented into place by this time next year, or August-September of next year at the latest, will disappear down the memory hole the moment a Democrat is sworn in.

The list of things that Trump can securely accomplish at this point is getting very, very short. RBG is a wild card; who knows? Maybe he'll get something solid on trade and immigration, though I suspect our opponents, who understand our political calendar, are just playing for time. (Mexico will be perfectly happy to move all of Central America north of the Rio Grande the moment Biden or Harris or whomever takes over.)

The big kahuna at this point is the Barr investigation. It needs to be done right, but if indictments are not forthcoming soon, it will be too late unless Trump is reelected. Exposing the illegality of the plotters is probably the most powerful means of changing the electoral dynamic -- but that case should be made sooner rather than later, so there is time for it to sink in and so that it cannot be dismissed as political grandstanding in the heat of a campaign.

The clock is ticking. Trump is paying the penalty now for his lackadaisical attitude towards staffing his administration early in the game. It has probably dawned on the Trump inner circle by now that they can't actually control the executive branch without all those deputy-under-assistant secretaries and Schedule C's in place, but that's water under the bridge. If Trump gets a second term, maybe he'll actually staff his administration next time around.

What Barr does, or doesn't do, in the next couple of months will be decisive. If no action is taken soon, there is a high probability that the Obama/Clinton scandals will simply evaporate in 18 months. We won't forget, but that won't much matter. We are almost out of time.

22 posted on 06/19/2019 5:26:10 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would have though Joe the liar would be at least 25 to 30 points ahead by now, since he IS going to cure cancer when he is elected.


23 posted on 06/19/2019 5:28:29 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Russia and Putin didn't make me vote for Trump, HILLARY DID!!!)
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To: sphinx

About 500 days until the election. Not much time in the grand scheme.


24 posted on 06/19/2019 5:32:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Polls? Seriously? After 2016 they fixed something? Not!


25 posted on 06/19/2019 5:34:46 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did they not watch last night.


26 posted on 06/19/2019 5:57:14 AM PDT by abbastanza
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

John Harwood, Hillary’s pet.


27 posted on 06/19/2019 6:12:33 AM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: sphinx
I don't think Trump will win, but I don't want to argue that point here.


All the experts say TRUMP is a shoo in to win reelection!!



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TrendMacro's 2020 election model


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28 posted on 06/19/2019 6:14:35 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The pollsters have the same problems now as the did in 15/16....

TRUMP doesn’t fit their mold.... they have no idea who these voters are or will be, let alone how to reach them. The ones they do know, generally don’t like to talk to them either. That and some are playing the same old tricks, and intentionally manipulating the outcomes as well.

Here’s 2020 in a nutshell, short of something HUGE like a massive Economic Collapse happening before election day...

Trump will outperform 2016 in every state. He will win EVERY state he took in 16. In states he got over 45% but didn’t win in 16, expect him to win most if not all of those as well. In states he got 40-45% expect Trump to go right into them and battle for them and likely win some of those as well.

It doesn’t matter who the Dems put up on the ballot, there is no path to victory for them.

I expect Trump to score at least 3-5 Million more votes in 2020 than he did in 16, and if the winds blow right he could get a few million more.


29 posted on 06/19/2019 6:21:26 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Before that, statewide polls in North Carolina and Texas showed Biden ahead by 12...

I hope they keep lying to themselves like they did in 2016.

30 posted on 06/19/2019 6:50:18 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I suspect there is a huge Bradley Effect in poll respondents with Trump.
31 posted on 06/19/2019 7:42:28 AM PDT by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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To: Sparticus

I would lie to pollsters if I even bothered to respond to them.

Let the Rats think they have it in the bag.


32 posted on 06/19/2019 7:43:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: sphinx

Ruth is not the only old or sickly Supreme Court justice.


33 posted on 06/19/2019 9:53:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many are they polling in those ridiculous state polls - 500? Really need to be conducting polls of 3000.


34 posted on 06/19/2019 11:14:49 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: AC86UT89

He couldn’t hack it at The Wall Street Journal.


35 posted on 06/19/2019 10:50:42 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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