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Why Trump Won’t Be the GOP Nominee in 2020
The American Prospect ^ | August 7, 2018 | Robert Kuttner, Co-Founder and Co-Editor

Posted on 08/07/2018 7:13:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There is a saying attributed to various wise men: “Never make predictions, especially about the future.” Allow me to tempt fate and offer some musings about the 2020 election and America’s democratic future:

The Republicans. I will be amazed if Donald Trump is the Republican nominee. The water around him is rising fast, and he is likely to be long gone by 2020, either via impeachment or resignation in a deal that spares him prosecution.

Trump’s Sunday morning tweet admitted that a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between campaign aides and a Kremlin-linked lawyer was designed to “get information on an opponent.”

(TWEET-AT-LINK)

The tweet undercut a lie that Donald Trump Jr. told in July 2017 saying that the meeting had been primarily about the adoption of Russian children. The lie was cooked up in close consultation with Trump Senior.

In a recent New Yorker post, Adam Davidson details just how Trump’s “no collusion” story has fallen apart, in part due to his own impulsive failure to keep his lies straight.

As Davidson summarizes it:

•The president’s son and top advisers knowingly met with individuals connected to the Russian government, hoping to obtain dirt on their political opponent.
•Documents stolen from the Democratic National Committee and members of the Clinton campaign were later used in an overt effort to sway the election.
•When the Trump Tower meeting was uncovered, the president instructed his son and staff to lie about the meeting, and told them precisely which lies to use.
•The president is attempting to end the investigation into this meeting and other instances of attempted collusion between his campaign staff and representatives of the Russian government.

All of this is more than enough to justify an obstruction of justice charge, a prime ground for impeachment. It should be more than enough to cause Republican defenders to distance themselves from Trump. As Special Counsel Robert Mueller ferrets out more and more detail, a panicky Trump gets crazier and crazier. He will likely do himself in.

When Trump goes, don’t expect Vice President Mike Pence to be the 2020 nominee either. Pence is a famously inept politician, who was on track to be defeated for re-election as the Republican governor of Indiana—quite a trick.

The hardcore Trump base will be furious if (when) Trump is forced out. If Pence succeeds Trump, there will be a free-for-all, with some candidates running as the true successor to Trump and others trying to reclaim a sane Republican Party.

The latter could include moderates John Kasich, governor of Ohio, who is already positioning himself for a run; Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, and Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker. Their claim to success is that they get elected as Republicans in normally Democratic states. Their problem is that the electorate in Republican primaries is far to their right.

The former could include any number of frothing-at-the-mouth members of the House Freedom Caucus, plus of course Pence. So my bet is that the Republican nominee will be someone other than Trump, and will be presiding over a badly fractured party. What a gift to Democrats!

The Democrats. The entire Democratic pack is running to the left, because that’s where the grassroots energy is. Even Kirsten Gillibrand is trying to position herself to the left of Elizabeth Warren. One can debate whether the formerly centrist Gillibrand has had a sincere conversion or whether she is an opportunistic weathervane. But her stances say a lot about where the Democratic weather is.

Nobody has officially declared, of course, but as a splendid profile of Warren in New York magazine explains, Warren is increasingly the favorite of the activist party base and a front-runner to be the nominee.

Another likely finalist is Corey Booker. If Bernie Sanders goes again, he could be a third finalist.

Joe Biden is prominently mentioned, but I don’t buy it. He is almost as old as Bernie. Biden will turn 78 in November 2020, when Sanders will be 79. Biden is loved by the pundit class, but in two previous primary runs, he lost badly.

If I had to place money on it, I’d bet that Warren will be the nominee, and that Sanders won’t run. If Sanders and Warren get into a slugfest and divide the left, a more centrist economic candidate who is left on social issues, like Booker, could win.

As I’ve repeatedly written, Warren is the most effective leader the Dems have had in decades at narrating the lived experience of regular working people—as progressive politics. Some say she won’t do well with white males, that she is great in person, but too preachy and shrill on TV.

We’ll soon find out. I think she will blow the opposition away in the Midwestern primaries and caucuses.

What about Nancy Pelosi? Should Democrats take back control of the House in this year’s midterms, there is movement among backbenchers in the House Democratic Caucus to replace Pelosi as prospective speaker with a younger leader who is less of a lightning rod for Republican caricature. There are three problems.

First, the other members of the senior Democratic leadership are of Pelosi’s generation. The whip, Steny Hoyer, at 79, is older then Pelosi. Joe Crowley, the caucus chair, was knocked off in a primary by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Second, even though some Democratic candidates have pledged not to vote for Pelosi for speaker in order to take that issue off the table, she has been a very effective leader and there is a great deal of loyalty to her. When Ohio Democrat Tim Ryan challenged Pelosi for leader in 2017, Pelosi won overwhelmingly, 134 to 63.

Third, there is no consensus candidate among back-benchers to succeed Pelosi. Ryan would not do much better if he challenged Pelosi again. She might lose a couple of dozen votes from newly elected Democrats, but that’s not sufficient to topple her. And many newly elected Democrats will be women and progressives—like Pelosi.

My bet is that there will be an agreement in the caucus to give Pelosi one more term as speaker in exchange for her agreement to step down after 2020. And then her successor will be someone not in the current top leadership ranks, but a committee chair or other second-tier leadership figure in their forties or fifties.

As for the midterms? A year ago, I bet that Democrats would pick up 54 House seats. They may not gain quite that many, but they should comfortably take back the House.

A Close Run Thing. After the Battle of Waterloo, the victorious Duke of Wellington described his victory as “the nearest run thing you ever saw in your life.” The remark has often been rendered as “a close run thing.”

The appointment and survival of Robert Mueller has been a close run thing. Had Attorney General Jeff Sessions not recused himself, had Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein not been committed to the rule of law, had Sessions not refused to buckle under Trump’s taunts and threats, and had just enough senior Republican Trump allies in Congress not warned Trump to keep his hands off Sessions and Rosenstein, Mueller would have been done for.

If American democracy survives President Donald Trump, it will have been a close run thing. At the risk of making the most out-on-a limb prediction of all, I think that it will.

So, who actually said, “Never make predictions, especially about the future”? The expression has been attributed to figures as varied as Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, Mark Twain, Yogi Berra, and Casey Stengel. Alas, the original is lost to the mists of time.

It turns out that getting the past right is almost as hard as getting the future right.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2020; bs; fake; fakenews; kasich; pence; trump; trump2020
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To: Celtic Conservative

Then he ain’t a genius.

You’re giving him too much credit.


81 posted on 08/07/2018 8:10:28 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Fair enough; the Popster also bloviates during his pontifications.


82 posted on 08/07/2018 8:10:30 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’ll be shocked if Trump is the nominee in 2020.

I bet he was shocked in 2016 and 2017 too.


83 posted on 08/07/2018 8:12:29 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Hmmm)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

The type of person who believes that Russia - Manafort - Gates crap would NEVER vote for Donald Trump or any other Republican in a million years.

Also, democrat pollster Larry Sabato says you have to add 10 points to Trump’s approval rating in any poll in order to weed out the press bias and oversampling of dems.


84 posted on 08/07/2018 8:13:03 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Washington is NOT a swamp.....It's a cesspool!)
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To: MortMan

People like me win elections in NJ.

I am not a liberal as well.

I’m a run the mill conservative.

I’ve followed politics for years before joining FR.

Please.

I know the pulse of all American suburbs and exurbs.

I live in the suburbs, I know suburban politics, I know what I am talking about.

Please. Let’s stay focused on the goal.


85 posted on 08/07/2018 8:14:48 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff (I want to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee-Old Yankee Stadium (1923-2008))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Too bad for Kuttner that the ‘Kremlin-linked lawyer’ was actually an Obama CIA/FBI-linked agent. FAIL!


86 posted on 08/07/2018 8:17:13 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Amen Amen and Amen to your entire post.


87 posted on 08/07/2018 8:17:29 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

A classic concern troll....


88 posted on 08/07/2018 8:18:58 PM PDT by crusher2013
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When he called Kasich a moderate instead of the far left RINO he really is; I stopped reading. It was hard to read up to that point because it was all wishful thinking designed to prop up an angry leftist base who needs some good news after losing for 8 years of midterms.

We shall see what we see but I’m hoping the left gets pounded into sand this November (obviously).


89 posted on 08/07/2018 8:21:51 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Reno89519
This guy is not a Never Trumper. he is a hard core left winger. He would be glad to see a police state replace the duly elected Trump administration. That is what The American Prospect is all about.
90 posted on 08/07/2018 8:22:05 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Vendome

Of course these are the same people who think Biden resonates with the white working class like Paul Bunyan at a lumberjack’s convention.


91 posted on 08/07/2018 8:26:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3677076/posts


92 posted on 08/07/2018 8:29:57 PM PDT by upchuck (When I first arrived in Washington, the extent of anger and partisanship stunned me. ~ CongressmanX)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

cough cough blow me cough cough


93 posted on 08/07/2018 8:35:16 PM PDT by Finatic (Sometimes I think it would be nice to just get it on and get it over with. Once and for all.)
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To: Finatic

Tell those @$$holes to shut up.


94 posted on 08/07/2018 8:36:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Mike Pence has a very predictable robotic speech pattern that is so boring it hurts. Listen to him. Like Hillary, you wouldn’t want him in your living room night after night. Nice guy and all but boring and irksome.


95 posted on 08/07/2018 8:51:25 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is absolutely f#&%!ng retarded.


96 posted on 08/07/2018 8:56:21 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

“Trump running for reelection is 50-50. Trump is 72 and we don’t know if he wants to go through this again.”

Which leads to a bigger question. After two years of this crap, exactly what kind of person would WANT to run for President????


97 posted on 08/07/2018 8:57:27 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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To: The Antiyuppie
"After two years of this crap, exactly what kind of person would WANT to run for President????"

Someone who really wants to make a difference for his children and grandchildren?

98 posted on 08/07/2018 9:04:12 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The RINOs would just nominate another Romney, McCain or Bob Dole and lose to a left wing Democrat who will continue the wrecking of the country started by Obama while the RINOs sit back and whimper


99 posted on 08/07/2018 9:10:26 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatche)
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To: Dogbert41

“After two years of this crap, exactly what kind of person would WANT to run for President????”
“Someone who really wants to make a difference for his children and grandchildren?“

That’s what we would all like to think...


100 posted on 08/07/2018 9:24:19 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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