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Why Trump Won’t Be the GOP Nominee in 2020
The American Prospect ^ | August 7, 2018 | Robert Kuttner, Co-Founder and Co-Editor

Posted on 08/07/2018 7:13:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There is a saying attributed to various wise men: “Never make predictions, especially about the future.” Allow me to tempt fate and offer some musings about the 2020 election and America’s democratic future:

The Republicans. I will be amazed if Donald Trump is the Republican nominee. The water around him is rising fast, and he is likely to be long gone by 2020, either via impeachment or resignation in a deal that spares him prosecution.

Trump’s Sunday morning tweet admitted that a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between campaign aides and a Kremlin-linked lawyer was designed to “get information on an opponent.”

(TWEET-AT-LINK)

The tweet undercut a lie that Donald Trump Jr. told in July 2017 saying that the meeting had been primarily about the adoption of Russian children. The lie was cooked up in close consultation with Trump Senior.

In a recent New Yorker post, Adam Davidson details just how Trump’s “no collusion” story has fallen apart, in part due to his own impulsive failure to keep his lies straight.

As Davidson summarizes it:

•The president’s son and top advisers knowingly met with individuals connected to the Russian government, hoping to obtain dirt on their political opponent.
•Documents stolen from the Democratic National Committee and members of the Clinton campaign were later used in an overt effort to sway the election.
•When the Trump Tower meeting was uncovered, the president instructed his son and staff to lie about the meeting, and told them precisely which lies to use.
•The president is attempting to end the investigation into this meeting and other instances of attempted collusion between his campaign staff and representatives of the Russian government.

All of this is more than enough to justify an obstruction of justice charge, a prime ground for impeachment. It should be more than enough to cause Republican defenders to distance themselves from Trump. As Special Counsel Robert Mueller ferrets out more and more detail, a panicky Trump gets crazier and crazier. He will likely do himself in.

When Trump goes, don’t expect Vice President Mike Pence to be the 2020 nominee either. Pence is a famously inept politician, who was on track to be defeated for re-election as the Republican governor of Indiana—quite a trick.

The hardcore Trump base will be furious if (when) Trump is forced out. If Pence succeeds Trump, there will be a free-for-all, with some candidates running as the true successor to Trump and others trying to reclaim a sane Republican Party.

The latter could include moderates John Kasich, governor of Ohio, who is already positioning himself for a run; Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, and Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker. Their claim to success is that they get elected as Republicans in normally Democratic states. Their problem is that the electorate in Republican primaries is far to their right.

The former could include any number of frothing-at-the-mouth members of the House Freedom Caucus, plus of course Pence. So my bet is that the Republican nominee will be someone other than Trump, and will be presiding over a badly fractured party. What a gift to Democrats!

The Democrats. The entire Democratic pack is running to the left, because that’s where the grassroots energy is. Even Kirsten Gillibrand is trying to position herself to the left of Elizabeth Warren. One can debate whether the formerly centrist Gillibrand has had a sincere conversion or whether she is an opportunistic weathervane. But her stances say a lot about where the Democratic weather is.

Nobody has officially declared, of course, but as a splendid profile of Warren in New York magazine explains, Warren is increasingly the favorite of the activist party base and a front-runner to be the nominee.

Another likely finalist is Corey Booker. If Bernie Sanders goes again, he could be a third finalist.

Joe Biden is prominently mentioned, but I don’t buy it. He is almost as old as Bernie. Biden will turn 78 in November 2020, when Sanders will be 79. Biden is loved by the pundit class, but in two previous primary runs, he lost badly.

If I had to place money on it, I’d bet that Warren will be the nominee, and that Sanders won’t run. If Sanders and Warren get into a slugfest and divide the left, a more centrist economic candidate who is left on social issues, like Booker, could win.

As I’ve repeatedly written, Warren is the most effective leader the Dems have had in decades at narrating the lived experience of regular working people—as progressive politics. Some say she won’t do well with white males, that she is great in person, but too preachy and shrill on TV.

We’ll soon find out. I think she will blow the opposition away in the Midwestern primaries and caucuses.

What about Nancy Pelosi? Should Democrats take back control of the House in this year’s midterms, there is movement among backbenchers in the House Democratic Caucus to replace Pelosi as prospective speaker with a younger leader who is less of a lightning rod for Republican caricature. There are three problems.

First, the other members of the senior Democratic leadership are of Pelosi’s generation. The whip, Steny Hoyer, at 79, is older then Pelosi. Joe Crowley, the caucus chair, was knocked off in a primary by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Second, even though some Democratic candidates have pledged not to vote for Pelosi for speaker in order to take that issue off the table, she has been a very effective leader and there is a great deal of loyalty to her. When Ohio Democrat Tim Ryan challenged Pelosi for leader in 2017, Pelosi won overwhelmingly, 134 to 63.

Third, there is no consensus candidate among back-benchers to succeed Pelosi. Ryan would not do much better if he challenged Pelosi again. She might lose a couple of dozen votes from newly elected Democrats, but that’s not sufficient to topple her. And many newly elected Democrats will be women and progressives—like Pelosi.

My bet is that there will be an agreement in the caucus to give Pelosi one more term as speaker in exchange for her agreement to step down after 2020. And then her successor will be someone not in the current top leadership ranks, but a committee chair or other second-tier leadership figure in their forties or fifties.

As for the midterms? A year ago, I bet that Democrats would pick up 54 House seats. They may not gain quite that many, but they should comfortably take back the House.

A Close Run Thing. After the Battle of Waterloo, the victorious Duke of Wellington described his victory as “the nearest run thing you ever saw in your life.” The remark has often been rendered as “a close run thing.”

The appointment and survival of Robert Mueller has been a close run thing. Had Attorney General Jeff Sessions not recused himself, had Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein not been committed to the rule of law, had Sessions not refused to buckle under Trump’s taunts and threats, and had just enough senior Republican Trump allies in Congress not warned Trump to keep his hands off Sessions and Rosenstein, Mueller would have been done for.

If American democracy survives President Donald Trump, it will have been a close run thing. At the risk of making the most out-on-a limb prediction of all, I think that it will.

So, who actually said, “Never make predictions, especially about the future”? The expression has been attributed to figures as varied as Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, Mark Twain, Yogi Berra, and Casey Stengel. Alas, the original is lost to the mists of time.

It turns out that getting the past right is almost as hard as getting the future right.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2020; bs; fake; fakenews; kasich; pence; trump; trump2020
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To: Ciaphas Cain

No. Pence would have to earn reelection on his own. Like GHW Bush.


61 posted on 08/07/2018 7:50:46 PM PDT by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention.)
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To: MortMan

I’m not a voice of gloom.

I’m a voice of reason.

The country is 50-50 with Trump.

Everyday on the news is Russia, Manafort, Gates, Russia.

That type of news has an effect on Americans.


62 posted on 08/07/2018 7:52:23 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff (I want to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee-Old Yankee Stadium (1923-2008))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m surprised this rag is allowed here.

It’s the official rag of delusional commies.


63 posted on 08/07/2018 7:54:13 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Opinion polls have President Trump at 50+%. You are full of it, given the huge negative coverage, and the fact tht the economy is still looking for full traction, newbie.


64 posted on 08/07/2018 7:55:11 PM PDT by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff; Jim Robinson
I’m not a voice of gloom.

Actually, you are. Your posting history smells funny. Seems all you post is gloom.

65 posted on 08/07/2018 7:56:33 PM PDT by 50mm (-.. .-. .. -. -.- / --- ...- .- .-.. - .. -. . /)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump won’t be the “GOP nominee” in 2020.

Trump will be the American people’s nominee in 2020.

Trump will NOT get nominated for a third term, but only because of the constitutional limit on presidents only serving 2 terms, otherwise, Trump would be president until he died or was “deemed” incapacitated. That would have been the democrats worst nightmare.

IOW, democrats and the liberal fake media and the liberal “analcysts” can dream and make up all kinds of stories and scenarios, but, none of their wishful thinking is getting in the way of what the American people want.


66 posted on 08/07/2018 7:57:49 PM PDT by adorno
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To: 50mm

I’m not a gloomy person.

I’m a voice of reason and caution. I am concerned about the future of all of us as you are.


67 posted on 08/07/2018 7:58:27 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff (I want to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee-Old Yankee Stadium (1923-2008))
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To: MortMan

GCP is a New Jersey Republican.
Anywhere else a NJ Republican is a Democrat.


68 posted on 08/07/2018 7:59:30 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Even the voters in his home state booted the nutty Flake out. That will carry weight in other states and Flakes opponents in the primary will milk that for all it’s worth.

He’s too fruity to survive the primary.


69 posted on 08/07/2018 7:59:59 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

It’s also laughable in every concievable way.


70 posted on 08/07/2018 8:03:23 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

He’s also a newbie with no credibility. And a liberal.


71 posted on 08/07/2018 8:03:51 PM PDT by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention.)
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To: Fungi

Nothing. Just pontificating.

CC


72 posted on 08/07/2018 8:04:36 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Do you know what really burns my ass? A flame about 3 feet high.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His sponsor needs to get him back into meetings...

Bizarre fiction...


73 posted on 08/07/2018 8:04:49 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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To: WMarshal

What’s bizarrely clever /s about this lunatics writing is believing fauxcahauntas will be a hit in the Midwest.

More like a foul ball...


74 posted on 08/07/2018 8:06:19 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Robert Kuttner, whoever the hell he/she/it is, has got to be strung-out on bath salts, crack and crystal meth if he/she/it believes that unadulterated bull$hit he/she/it wrote.


75 posted on 08/07/2018 8:06:35 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Washington is NOT a swamp.....It's a cesspool!)
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To: ZULU

You misunderstand the Kristolites as you call them, I prefer Bush League Republican.
Trump is destroying everything near and dear to them, too.
THE most important thing to them is the continuation of the transformation of this country to an Hispanic country.
The final amnesty needed to complete the Bush Plan for North Mexico has been tantalizingly just out of their reach.
They had been able to prevent US from electing anyone who would stop the illegal alien inundation.
Trump is threatening to reverse the purposeful flooding of our country with fraudulently documented foreigners.

We are 30 years and 30 million people into a bipartisan plan to literally steal the country from the citizens.
We would not vote for the New World Order so they are importing people who will.


76 posted on 08/07/2018 8:06:43 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kasuck

Bwahahahaha

What an idiot


77 posted on 08/07/2018 8:06:48 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
That type of news has an effect on Americans.

After thousands of claims of Hitler for everything, nothing is Hitler.

78 posted on 08/07/2018 8:06:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Ciaphas Cain

You nailed it and not alone in that feeling.


79 posted on 08/07/2018 8:07:23 PM PDT by cazmandeuce
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump will run in 2020 and will win with more Electoral College votes than 2016.
80 posted on 08/07/2018 8:09:29 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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